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N. Korea: "Light-water reactor can serve as a deterrent" (will use it as a Dirty Bomb)
Mainichi Shimbun ^ | 09/16/05

Posted on 09/17/2005 5:43:39 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

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6-party talk: Light-water Reactor Issue, "Light-water reactor can serve as a deterrent" (N. Korean argument)

Mainichi Shimbun, 2005/09/16, morning edition

[Sato Jiyako from Beijing] A source from Japanese delegation to 6-party talks said at night of Sept. 15 that N. Korea explained their reason for insisting on having light-water reactor(s), saying 'the reactor(s) can serve as deterrent against attacks from other countries' because such an attack on a reactor could create radioactive contamination.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; deterrent; dirtybomb; lightwaterreactor; nknukes; nkorea; npt; nuke; powerplant; russia; skorea; us
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Comments by Military Analyst Kamiura Motoyaki

N. Korea unilaterally withdrew from NPT, and expelled workers from IAEA(International Atomic Energy Agency). Further, they dismantled surveillance cameras of IAEA which were installed at nuclear facilities. This created the heightened sense of apprehension for N. Korea's nuclear arm's development among 5 (neighboring) countries, which led to 6-party talks. They are  ignoring the root (of the problem.) 

Even if light-water reactor design makes it difficult to use for nuclear arms, N. Korea cannot construct nuclear facilities since it bolted out of NPT.

What is more troubling is the part, "Light-water reactor can serve as deterrent." This implies that they can wire large amount of explosives at finished light-water reactor plant, and blow them up,  using the plant as a giant 'dirty bomb' if another country attacks. (Since the radioactivity would spread all over E. Asia,) this suicide scheme could work as a deterrent. This scheme is similar to deploying along DMZ long-range artillery or multiple rocket launchers tipped with chemical warheads.

Such an outrageous request can be supported neither by America nor its two neighbors, China and Russia. The fallout from the dirty bomb is global, and the neighbors are pretty apprehensive. What a N. Korean delegate told his Japanese counterpart may not be outrageous in N. Korean standard, but it totally unacceptable to Japan, America, and S. Korea. It is the idea self-destructive weak player can only entertain.

This amounts to saying that I want to kill myself, lend me a pistol, especially the powerful one whose bullet can (still fly and) kill many others even after it pierces through my body.

Let's see how China goes about rebuking N. Korea for this boneheaded idea. N. Korea's argument has completely broken down. It is irreparable.

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1 posted on 09/17/2005 5:43:42 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; OahuBreeze; yonif; risk; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 09/17/2005 5:44:21 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; F14 Pilot; AdmSmith

If the N. Koreans are thinking this, can the Iranian regime be far behind in thinking the same?


3 posted on 09/17/2005 5:45:26 PM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: nuconvert
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Yeah, I think they are in close contact. It would not surprise me if Iran resorts to the same tactic.

4 posted on 09/17/2005 5:47:17 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: MLedeen; DoctorZIn

Maybe I should have pinged you to the article and #3, also.


5 posted on 09/17/2005 5:50:15 PM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Yeah, I think they are in close contact. It would not surprise me if Iran resorts to the same tactic.
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Two targets of opportunity instead of just one.


6 posted on 09/17/2005 5:50:18 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: TigerLikesRooster; All

You know what Tiger if North KOrea working on this count on Iranians have this pretty soon


7 posted on 09/17/2005 6:00:08 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("Not everybody in, it, for truth, justice, and the American way,"= Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Let's see. Chernobyl reactor was utterly destroyed and released a large cloud of radioactive isotopes. Death was not instantaneous even for those at the plant. Fire fighters etc. died in the aftermath in close prolonged proximity to the damaged plant. How exactly does a western-style nuclear plant that is detonated result in any casualties to anyone beyond an approximate 10 mile radius of the plant? Anyone afraid of this form of "deterrence" has no clue about radiation or nuclear reactors.
8 posted on 09/17/2005 7:36:04 PM PDT by sefarkas (why vote Democrat-lite???)
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It works because it is scary to the ignorant.

The chernobyl reactor used carbon as its moderator. When that burns, you get carbon dioxide, which is taken up by plants, and then incorporated into their sugar molecules.

Another concern was release of radioactive Iodine, a gas. Children in Europe, in the area of the plume were given extra (safe) iodine, so they would excrete it, ridding their system of significant radioactive iodine as they also excreted the excess safe iodine.

Light water reactors use regular water (not water with deuterium) as the moderator and working fluid. No chance to release significant amounts of carbon or iodine.

Recent studies show that radiation damage near chernobyl was much less than expected, not to mention much less than predicted by the usual suspects. Communism was and is much worse than moderate levels of nuclear contamination.


9 posted on 09/17/2005 7:55:41 PM PDT by Donald Meaker (You don't drive a car looking through the rear view mirror, but you do practic politics that way.)
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To: Donald Meaker
I can see my B.S. in Nuclear Engineering on the wall as I type this. Thank you for the lesson in VVER design, it agrees with what I know. My point is that if Chernobyl were the worst thing that could happen, it is unlikely that a western-style nuclear plant (e.g., the RoK's Korean Standard Nuclear Power Plant which was the basis of the twin-unit site being built in the DPRK) could be any sort of deterrent to an attack by a military force from outside the DPRK.
11 posted on 09/17/2005 8:09:35 PM PDT by sefarkas (why vote Democrat-lite???)
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To: sefarkas

Thanks for the technical confirmation, but as you know better than I, the nuclear reactions have been common knowledge for some 60 years. I had a VERY good high school science teacher, a former prof at MIT.

Having said that, my BS and MS in engineering don't hurt either.


12 posted on 09/17/2005 8:15:20 PM PDT by Donald Meaker (You don't drive a car looking through the rear view mirror, but you do practic politics that way.)
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Recent studies show that radiation damage near chernobyl was much less than expected, not to mention much less than predicted by the usual suspects. Communism was and is much worse than moderate levels of nuclear contamination.

My wife's brother-in-law from Volgograd was at Chernobyl. He has a medical disability and has to go in for treatments every 6 months. I found the following link which provides some interesting details of the aftermath. The crumbling sarcophagus is a concern, since the design only good for 20 years. http://www.chernobyl-international.org/facts.html
13 posted on 09/19/2005 3:45:55 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: GarySpFc

I agree that it is a concern. But the local authorities have 20 years to come up with a better containment structure. As far as punts go, that one had great hang time.


14 posted on 09/19/2005 8:33:45 PM PDT by Donald Meaker (You don't drive a car looking through the rear view mirror, but you do practic politics that way.)
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To: Donald Meaker
You are overlooking the present age of the containment structure. It's almost 20 years old now.
15 posted on 09/19/2005 10:13:51 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: GarySpFc

I think if you check you will find the sarcophagus is in very bad shape.


16 posted on 09/19/2005 10:15:21 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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