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Great Britain: Flotilla marks Nelson anniversary (Admiral Lord Horatio Nelson, Hero of Trafalgar)
The BBC ^ | September 16, 2005

Posted on 09/18/2005 12:52:54 AM PDT by Stoat

 
Flotilla marks Nelson anniversary

 

The Painted Hall at the Old  Royal Naval College, Greenwich
The ceremony began in the Painted Hall at the Old Royal Naval College
Crowds have cheered one of the largest flotillas the Thames has seen, to mark 200 years since Nelson's death.

Dozens of boats carried dignitaries and descendants of those who fought at Trafalgar, from Greenwich to Whitehall.

Thousands lined the river to follow the re-enactment of Admiral Lord Nelson's funeral procession.

Organiser Sea Britain 2005 said the crowds were larger than anticipated. Nelson was shot dead by a French sniper at the 1805 Battle of Trafalgar.

A state funeral with five days of elaborate ceremonies was held from 8 January, 1806.

A spokeswoman for Sea Britain 2005 on Friday said: "It really was like recreating the funeral procession of 1806 with the number of people along the route."

'Defining moment'

The funeral re-enactment began after a brief ceremony at the Painted Hall, where Admiral the Lord Boyce, the former Admiral of the Fleet, read the New Trafalgar Dispatch.

"Two hundred years later we celebrate a defining moment in British history.


 

"The original dispatch said of Nelson that his memory would be 'forever dear' to his country," he said.

"We celebrate the memory of a great British hero. We celebrate all the heroes of Trafalgar."

The New Trafalgar Dispatch, a ceremonial document produced for the Trafalgar bicentenary, took the place of Nelson's coffin.

Fifteen-gun salute

It had been on display at The Painted Hall in Greenwich since its arrival in London on 9 September, imitating Nelson's lying in state.

It was taken up river by HMS Victory's cutter, the Jubilant , and presented to St Paul's Cathedral where Nelson is buried.

Boats were dressed to recreate the order and appearance of the original procession.

The flotilla slowed near Tower Bridge to receive a 15-gun salute from HMS Belfast and the rowers raised their oars skywards to acknowledge the tribute.

The boats made their way up river to a reception with the Princess Royal on HGS Wellington in King's Reach before finally reaching Westminster Boating Base.

The Royal Navy defeated Napoleon's combined French and Spanish fleet at Trafalgar.

 

Nelson's funeral procession re-enactment
 

The procession makes its way through the Old Royal Naval College at Greenwich towards the Queen's Steps before going on board the flotilla (picture by Alex McIlhiney).
Nelson's funeral re-enactment
 

The view from Trinity College of Music in the Old Royal Naval College as the flotilla sets off up the Thames (picture by Tomas Gisby).
Nelson's funeral re-enactment
 

Some 70 rowed and motor vessels accompany HMS Victory's cutter and the funeral barge (picture by Alex McIlhiney).
Nelson's funeral re-enactment
 

The weather remains dry for the procession, despite gathering clouds (picture by Alex McIlhiney).
Nelson's funeral re-enactment
 

Re-enactment participants in period costumes and naval uniforms (picture by Alex McIlhiney).
Nelson's funeral re-enactment
 

The Jubilant carries out the role of Nelson's funeral barge (picture by Ben Shayler).
Nelson's funeral re-enactment
 

The flotilla passes HMS Belfast (picture by Neil Hayes).
Nelson's funeral re-enactment
 

HMS Belfast fires a salute (picture by Neil Heyes).
  Nelson's funeral re-enactment
 

A Royal Navy patrol boat among the flotilla (picture by Simon Everest).
Nelson's funeral re-enactment
 

One of two replica 1829 gigs taking part, manned by national and international rowers, passes alongside the funeral barge (picture by Mark Buxton).
Nelson's funeral re-enactment
 
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Tower Bridge provides a spectacular backdrop (picture by Michael Parsons).

BBC NEWS UK Tribute to a 'complex but great' hero

Tribute to a 'complex but great' hero

 

By Anna Browning
BBC News

 

The flotilla leaving Greenwich
The event recreated the funeral procession of January 1806

Two hundred years ago, in the shadow of a mammoth Naval victory, the United Kingdom was a nation in mourning.

The man who arguably put the "great" into Great Britain was dead, killed by a French sniper's bullet at the Battle of Trafalgar.

And so on Friday, in a peculiarly English tribute, Admiral Lord Horatio Nelson was remembered and his achievements celebrated as part of the year-long Trafalgar anniversary celebrations.

A flotilla of 70 boats, complete with Royal Navy VIPs, actors in 18th century dress and descendants of the man himself, rowed a choppy Thames in a re-enactment of Nelson's last journey.

Cdr Craig Nelson and L/Cpl Brett Nelson
Everyone looks at his tactics and uses what he did to this day
 
Cdr Craig Nelson

In January 1806, Nelson's body was taken from a three-day lying-in-state in the Painted Hall in Greenwich to his final resting place in St Paul's Cathedral. Tens of thousands lined the banks of the Thames to pay respects to a "flawed but great" hero.

 

Two centuries later, more than 1,000 people took their place along the London river to watch the spectacle as head of the Royal Navy, First Sea Lord, Admiral Sir Alan West took the New Trafalgar Dispatch from the same Painted Hall along the Thames in The Jubilant, a wooden funeral barge.

"It might not be quite so good as 1806, but it is certainly a great turnout," said Cdr Craig Nelson, a sixth-generation descendant of the Vice-Admiral.

From the cheering crowds, to the plethora of dignitaries turned out for the occasion, it is clear his illustrious ancestor still has influence - but perhaps most evidently in his own family.

 

Spectator Hugo Hadlow
History is interesting and stops us making the same mistakes
 
Hugo Hadlow

Cdr Nelson, (in the Royal Marines) has two brothers - L/Cpl Brett (Army) and Cpl Arron Nelson (RAF).

"Being in the military we can see how hard it must have been to achieve what he did," said L/Cpl Brett Nelson. "He went to sea at 12, and at 20 became a captain."

"Everyone looks at his tactics and uses what he did to this day," said Cdr Craig Nelson.

Indeed, while they justifiably grew up proud of their forbear, such is his legacy that until now they have kept their links to the great man quiet, fearful his enduring reputation would overshadow their own military careers.

Among the crowd cheering on the re-enactment was Chris Hutchins, 41, from Esher, Surrey.

"It's been a fantastic occasion," she said. "It's made me feel very proud and it is a fitting tribute to a very great and fascinating man."

The Jubilant
Admiral Sir Alan West was taken from Greenwich to Westminster

Another, 18-year-old Hugo Hadlow, was drawn to the water's edge in Greenwich by the spectacle of the ships.

Remembering the past was important, he said.

"History is interesting and stops us making the same mistakes," he said.

So after all this time why is Nelson still a draw?

He was this amazing combination of human strength and human frailty.
 
David Quarmby, SeaBritain

"Trafalgar was a defining moment in Britain's history as it established Britain's maritime ascendancy for 100 years which saw a fantastic growth of trade and empire during Victorian times," said David Quarmby, chairman of SeaBritain 2005, which has organised the 200th anniversary Battle of Trafalgar celebrations.

"Nelson is a great part of English folklore history, perhaps the best known of Britain's military heroes."

But it is not just the man who fashioned an island nation into a naval superpower, it is also the man involved in the scandalous love affair with Emma, Lady Hamilton, which continues to capture our imagination.

"Nelson was a very special kind of person, with huge courage, leadership and people skills but with huge flaws," said Mr Quarmby

"He was this amazing combination of human strength and human frailty. He was one of British history's really interesting characters."
 



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: britain; england; greatbritain; history; lordnelson; navy; nelson; royalnavy; trafalgar; uk; unitedkingdom
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The Battle of Trafalgar

By Andrew Lambert

 

The why, where, how and when of the Battle of the Trafalgar - and the man who made all the difference.

Rear Admiral Viscount Nelson, wearing his Nile decorations - with diamond 'chelengk', a gift from Sultan of Turkey, in his hat 


 

Global power

The Battle of Trafalgar was to witness both the defeat of Napoleon Bonaparte's plans to invade Britain, and the death of Admiral Lord Nelson. It was never going to be any ordinary battle, and quickly acquired a heightened, almost magical, reality.

'...the Royal Navy annihilated the greatest threat to British security for 200 years ...'

During the engagement at Trafalgar, on 21 October 1805, the Royal Navy annihilated the greatest threat to British security for 200 years, but lost Britain's national hero in the process. Little wonder the battle transcended the mundane calculation of ships and men, victory and defeat. It guaranteed Britain's control of the oceans, the basis of her global power for over a century.

By 1805 Nelson was already a national hero, and considered the ultimate naval commander. His elevated conception of war ensured that every battle he fought was used to solve major strategic problems, and his many successes ensured he was the only contemporary to rival Bonaparte as ultimate exemplar of total war. Nor did Bonaparte disagree - he kept a bust of Nelson in his private quarters.

Nelson developed the art of war at sea to the new, terrible form he characterised as 'annihilation' to counter the war effort of Napoleonic France. He did so by taking the command system of Admiral Sir John Jervis, the tough old officer who taught him how to keep a fleet efficient, and melding it with the genius for battle and strategy he developed while serving under Admiral Lord Hood.

Nelson used this combination of strategic flair and practical management to help Britain survive the 22 year struggle with Revolutionary and Napoleonic France. He understood that invasion by France was the least of Britain's worries - the real threat was the destruction of her global commercial system.

Defensive strategy

 

HMS Victory - in dry dock in Portsmouth
HMS 'Victory' - in dry dock in Portsmouth
In 1803 the Peace of Amiens - a temporary armed truce between Britain and France - broke down, and for nearly two years British strategy rested on the defensive, waiting for the French navy to make the first move. Late in 1804, however, Spain joined the war as an ally of France, giving Napoleon the ships he needed to challenge Britain.

 

This was the context of Trafalgar. Napoleon was looking for an opportunity to strike at Britain, without having to fight Nelson and the Royal Navy - while all his attempts to attack British interests were thwarted by expert seamen who countered his every move.

'Villeneuve's fleet ... was ideally positioned to attack British trading ships or Britain itself.'

Thus, when Vice-Admiral Pierre-Charles Villeneuve, Commander of Napoleon's Franco-Spanish fleet bottled up in a safe haven at Toulon, broke out into the Atlantic in early 1805, Nelson chased him all the way to the West Indies in the most daring of all his campaigns.

By September 1805, however, Villeneuve's fleet had found shelter at Cadiz, and was ideally positioned to attack British trading ships or Britain itself. It had to be destroyed.

Battle plan

 

Nelson explains his plan for the forthcoming Battle of Trafalgar
Nelson explains his plan for the forthcoming Battle of Trafalgar
Nelson joined the British fleet off Cadiz in late September. His very presence electrified the men under his command, while his new battle plan, explained at his table on HMS Victory, was key to decisive combat. If the enemy put to sea Nelson wanted to be able to annihilate them completely, ending the need for Britain to stand on the defensive.

 

Nelson's arrival unsettled Admiral Villeneuve, who was already being bullied by Napoleon, who wanted his fleet to support an attack on Naples. Thus under pressure Villeneuve, believing Nelson's fleet to be weaker than his own, put to sea on 19 October. In fact his 33 ships of the line faced 27 British vessels.

Nelson anticipated his enemy's every move. At dawn on the 21st the fleets were in visual contact. Nelson's fleet was formed into two columns, for a risky head-on approach that exposed the unarmed bows of his leading ships to the full weight of enemy broadsides. He knew a storm was coming, and he had to engage the enemy quickly.

'Nelson knew his skilled captains could wipe out the rest of the opposing fleet ...'

He was to lead the first column into the attack and destroy the enemy flagship, leaving his opponents, leaderless and confused, to be destroyed by the second column, led by Admiral Cuthbert Collingwood. With the enemy admiral disabled, Nelson knew his skilled captains could wipe out the rest of the opposing fleet in the remaining hours of daylight.

'England Expects ...'

 

A British ship crosses the battle line of the Combined French and Spanish Fleet
British ship crosses battle line of Franco-Spanish fleet
As his vessels approached their enemy, Nelson walked around his flagship, talking with the crew - having sent the immortal signal 'England expects that every man will do his duty' to the fleet. All his men cheered this example of courage and confidence that they had but to follow.

 

The enemy had reversed course during the morning, heading back to Cadiz, leaving their line confused. Now the fleets were off Cape Trafalgar, and the British sailors had time to eat a good meal in preparation for the engagement - although their opponents may not have had such healthy appetites. Nelson waited for Villeneuve to show his flag, so he would know where to strike.

As Victory bore down on the enemy line she had to endure heavy fire from the allied line, without being able to reply. Round shot came smashing through the flimsy bow of the ship, killing and wounding the men on the upper deck. John Scott, Nelson's Public Secretary, was standing on the quarter deck talking with Captain Thomas Hardy, when a shot cut him in two.

'This is too warm work to last for long.'

Then the steering wheel was smashed, and a double-headed shot scythed down a file of eight marines on the poop. Still Nelson and Hardy paced up and down on their chosen ground, the starboard side of the quarterdeck, with splinters flying around them.

When a splinter hit Hardy's shoe, tearing off the buckle, Nelson observed: 'This is too warm work to last for long'. Fifty men had been killed or wounded, and the crew of the Victory had yet to open fire.

The battle

 

Battle of Trafalgar on 21 October 1805
Battle of Trafalgar
At 12.35pm the concave enemy line allowed the Victory to open fire at last, shrouding the ship in smoke. Soon afterwards the Victory ran right under the stern of the French flagship, the Bucentaure, and fired a double shotted broadside that made the enemy ship shudder, and killed or wounded over 200 men. Admiral Villeneuve was the only man left standing on the quarter deck.

 

The Redoutable then blocked Victory's way through the enemy line, and Nelson was immobilised on a ship fighting three opponents in the middle of the combined fleet - but he had administered the decisive stroke. Villeneuve was trapped on a crippled ship, and the Franco-Spanish centre was reduced to chaos, lacking the leadership to meet the irresistible British.

Nelson, his work done, continued to walk with Hardy, while the captain of the Redoutable tried to clear Victory's upper deck with musket fire and hand grenades. Then, at about 1.15pm, Nelson was hit by a 0.69in-diameter lead ball, which cut an artery in his lung and lodged in his spine. He was knocked to the deck, and it was clear the wound was mortal. Hardy had his chief carried below, where Surgeon William Beatty was hard at work on the mounting list of casualties.

Meantime the battle raged, with the faster and more effective British gunnery steadily wearing down the enemy. Over the next three hours the Franco-Spanish force would collapse. Nelson's attack had broken all the rules of tactics, treating a fleet waiting for a fight like one running away, substituting speed for mass, precision for weight, and accepting impossible odds.

' ... the battle was won while the enemy had far more ships in the fight than the British.'

At the start of the battle, when the first British ships arrived, they were initially fighting a far greater number of enemy ships. They won the day because of their speed and flexibility, and by the time they were weakening, a later wave of vessels was in place to administer the coup de grace.

In fact the battle was won while the enemy had far more ships in the fight than the British. The real triumph was not of 27 ships against 33, but of 12 against 22. British casualties tell the story - 12 ships fought the early and decisive phase of the battle, suffering some 1200 deaths and injuries.

Nelson's death

 

Nelson is taken below after being hit by a French musket ball
Nelson is taken below after being wounded
As Nelson lay wounded, the battle with the Redoutable reached a crescendo. The French repeatedly tried to board the Victory, only to be driven back by heavy fire, and at 1.30pm the captain of the Redoutable surrendered.

 

At 2.15pm Villeneuve surrendered. The genius of his opponent, the power of the Royal Navy and the failure of his lead squadron to come to his aid had doomed his brave effort. He lived to return to France, only to be murdered by Napoleon.

By 2.30pm Hardy was able to go below, to report to Nelson that 12 or 14 of the enemy were taken, and no British ship had surrendered. That last answer betrayed Nelson's anxiety about the outcome of the battle. Hardy, however, could not linger, the lead enemy squadron was belatedly trying to join the battle, only to be bettered by Edward Codrington's brilliantly handled Orion, the Minotaur and the Spartiate. Hardy went back on deck and signalled the ships nearby to support the flagship.

Hardy visited Nelson again at 3.30pm to confirm a glorious victory, but could not satisfy Nelson's determination to have 20 prizes. 'Anchor, Hardy, Anchor!' the dying man demanded, as the rising sea reminded him of his weather forecast.

'Thank God I have done my duty.'

Hardy knelt and kissed him, as Nelson struggled to breathe and kept repeating his motto: 'Thank God I have done my duty.' Unable to endure his grief at his leader's plight, Hardy went back to the upper deck, burying his feelings in the fighting. Nelson died shortly before 4.30pm, as the battle died down. Nineteen enemy ships had been taken.

Cost of victory

 

The end of the Battle of Trafalgar - fleeing French and Spanish ships on the horizon
End of the battle - with fleeing enemy ships in the distance
The cost of victory was high. Some 1,700 British were killed or wounded, with 6,000 enemy casualties and nearly 20,000 prisoners. Many of those lives, as well as Villeneuve's flagship, were lost in the storm that followed the battle.

 

The following day, Nelson's oldest friend, Admiral Collingwood, opened his wonderful Order of Thanks for the men of the fleet with the following lines:

'The ever to be lamented death of Vice Admiral Lord Viscount Nelson, Duke of Bronte, the Commander in Chief, who fell in the action of the 21st, in the arms of Victory, covered with glory, whose memory will be ever dear to the British Navy and the British Nation; whose zeal for the honour of his King, and for the interests of his Country, will ever be held up as a shining example for a British seaman.'

This powerful document only heightened the emotional impact of the news across the nation - for Britons the triumph over Napoleon was cancelled out by the loss of Nelson. The loss, however, provided a national hero to help enhance the newly formed British identity. Trafalgar, as the battle was named by George III, had crushed the naval power of a deadly enemy, and - although they had fought like heroes - the Spanish and French had been annihilated.

Trafalgar was the coda to Nelson's achievement. He had destroyed Napoleon's maritime strategy and invasion plans when he pursued Villeneuve to the West Indies and back. This had set the limit to Napoleon's empire, and plotted the course of his downfall.

Other British admirals could have won at Trafalgar, but only Nelson could have settled the command of the sea for a century. Trafalgar was the product of one man's obsessive genius and unequalled commitment to his country.

Find out more

Books

Nelson: Britannia's God of War by Andrew Lambert (Faber and Faber, 2004)

Logs of the Great Sea Fights, Vol. II edited by Admiral Sir T Sturges-Jackson (Navy Records Society, 1902, reprinted 2005). Collection of ships' log books dealing with the day of the Battle of Trafalgar, also the battles of the Nile and Copenhagen.

The Campaign of Trafalgar by JS Corbett (Longman, 1910). The definitive study, written by a master of strategic and tactical history. Used to teach naval officers before 1914.

The Campaign of Trafalgar by E Desbrière, translated by C Eastwick (Oxford). The French staff history, written before World War One.

Trafalgar and the Spanish Navy by J Harbron (Conway Maritime, London, 2004). The only book-length study of the Spanish perspective, although much of the text is concerned with the century leading up to the battle.

The Letters and Dispatches of Admiral Lord Nelson, 1844-46 (vols 6,7) edited by NH Nicolas (reprinted Chatham Publishing, 1998)

Nelson: New Letters edited by Colin White (Boydell, Woodbridge, 2005)

About the author

Andrew Lambert is Laughton Professor of Naval History at King's College, London. His three-part television series 'War at Sea' was broadcast on BBC TWO in 2004.
 


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Published on BBC History: 07-06-2005
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1 posted on 09/18/2005 12:53:01 AM PDT by Stoat
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To: Stoat

So which team won? The red team or the blue team?


2 posted on 09/18/2005 12:58:37 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
So which team won? The red team or the blue team?

BBC NEWS UK Thousands see Trafalgar 'battle'

"The mock Battle of Trafalgar was held between a blue and a red team, rather than Britain versus France.

The decision upset some who regarded it as unnecessary political correctness. "

I'm assuming that England was blue in the disgustingly PC Battle of Trafalgar reenactment.  That event is covered on other FR threads and I'm sure there will be many pithy comments to be found.  

3 posted on 09/18/2005 1:12:08 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

What was Horatio Nelson's stand on the emergence of the independent United States? If he had maintained any stand at all?

History is fun on FR!


4 posted on 09/18/2005 2:13:58 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: CarrotAndStick
"What was Horatio Nelson's stand on the emergence of the independent United States? If he had maintained any stand at all?"
 

I  regret that I must offer a sincere apology....I am not a Scholar of Lord Nelson and so I cannot provide a definitive answer to your question without some research time spent.  I posted this thread as a tribute to this great man and as a tribute to the history, grand traditions and enduring honor of our dear British Friends and their great Nation.  Although I hope that a more suitable Nelson scholar might emerge from cyberspace to help with your fascinating and entirely relevant question, a very cursory Google search brought me to a letter from Nelson himself, which MAY suggest that he had goodwill and great hopes for a prosperous friendship between Great Britain and the United States:

Letters and Dispatches of Horatio Nelson

TO JAMES SIMPSON, ESQ., AMERICAN CONSUL AT MALAGA.

[From Clarke and M'Arthur, vol. ii. p. 13, In reply to the American Consul's request that he would protect twelve American Vessels at Malaga, which were unable to proceed, on account of three French Privateers that were watching them.]

Gibraltar, 30th May, 1797.

Sir,
I shall immediately grant the protection you have requested, by sending the Andromache, Captain Mansfield, to-morrow off Malaga, who will protect the Vessels close to the coast of Barbary, where you tell me they will consider themselves safe. In thus freely granting the protection of the British flag to the subjects of the United States, I am sure of fulfilling the wishes of my Sovereign, and I hope of strengthening the harmony which at present so happily subsists between the two Nations.

I am, &c., HORATIO NELSON

 

Again I apologize for being unable to provide a better answer, but hopefully another FReeper will be able to provide more insight.  I am constantly amazed at the spectacular breadth of knowledge bursting forth from this site.

5 posted on 09/18/2005 2:47:06 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

I was there on R&R. One of the best days of my life.

6 posted on 09/18/2005 3:11:59 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (Kandahar Airfield -- “We’re not on the edge of the world, but we can see it from here")
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To: CarrotAndStick
What was Horatio Nelson's stand on the emergence of the independent United States? If he had maintained any stand at all?

Being raised with indomitable British Naval discipline, I'm sure he viewed the colonial rebellion and the rebels with contempt. Probably saw it as an insult to King and country. He would have probably loved to blow away our ships on any given chance but sternly complied with his nation's policies when not in direct open conflict.

Per the Wikipedia:

By 1777 he had risen to the rank of lieutenant, and was assigned to the West Indies, during which time he saw action on the British side of the American Revolutionary War. By the time he was 20, in June 1779, he made captain; the 28-gun frigate Hinchinbrook, newly-captured from the French, was his first command.

In 1781 he was involved in an action against the Spanish fortress of San Juan in Nicaragua. A success, the efforts involved still damaged Nelson's health to the extent that he returned to England for more than a year. He eventually returned to active duty and was assigned to Albemarle, in which he continued his efforts against the American rebels until the official end of the war in 1783.

Command

In 1784, Nelson was given command of the 28-gun Boreas, and assigned to enforce the Navigation Act in the vicinity of Antigua. This was during the denouement of the American Revolutionary War, and enforcement of the act was problematic—now-foreign American vessels were no longer allowed to trade with British colonies in the Caribbean Sea, an unpopular rule with both the colonies and the Americans. After seizing four American vessels off Nevis, Nelson was sued by the captains of the ships for illegal seizure. As the merchants of Nevis supported them, Nelson was in peril of imprisonment and had to remain sequestered on Boreas for eight months. It took that long for the courts to deny the captains their claims, but in the interim Nelson met Fanny Nesbit, a widow native to Nevis, whom he would marry on March 11, 1787 at the end of his tour of duty in the Caribbean.

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Of course, given recent events, we consider him a hero on both sides of the pond for blowing away the French.

Even without that, what an amazing man. A true hero.

7 posted on 09/18/2005 3:16:22 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
"I was there on R&R. One of the best days of my life."

I can well imagine!  It sounds like an absolutely spectacular event.  From the article:

 

"Thousands lined the river to follow the re-enactment of Admiral Lord Nelson's funeral procession.

Organiser Sea Britain 2005 said the crowds were larger than anticipated."

 

If you have any special stories or photographs of the event or of your time there you are of course entirely welcome to post them here for all to enjoy. 

8 posted on 09/18/2005 3:18:23 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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Crowds watch from ashore as a re-enactment of the Battle of Trafalgar takes place.

9 posted on 09/18/2005 3:22:20 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (Kandahar Airfield -- “We’re not on the edge of the world, but we can see it from here")
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The Painted Hall, probably the finest dining hall in the Western world, is decorated with stunning paintings by James Thornhill, and is part of King William Court. This was planned to be the hospital's dining hall. Wren submitted the designs in 1698, and the roof and the dome above were already in place five years later. Thornhill's decoration, by contrast, took nineteen years to complete. .
[snip]

Painted Hall, old Naval College, Greenwich
10 posted on 09/18/2005 3:49:56 AM PDT by Cardhu
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To: Stoat; Cannonette
I scheduled my R&R to be in Portsmouth on June 28. My wife and I drove down from Kent, arriving at Fort Nelson around 1100. From up there we could see the harbor and out into the Solent. Coastal fortifications have always attracted me. I took Cannonette to Fort Morgan, Alabama on our honeymoon 25 years ago and have been dragging her to forts and castles ever since. Fort Nelson was great. Very much like Fort Pulaski, Georgia.. Anybody with any interest at all in forts and artillery will love Fort Nelson. We were on the way back to the car when we heard naval gunfire down below. This was salutes to the Queen who was reviewing the Fleet down in the Solent.

We hurried on down the hill and ended up at Explosion!, where we parked the car and walked to the Gosport Ferry and took it over to Portsmouth, and toured HMS Victory.

11 posted on 09/18/2005 4:17:25 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (Kandahar Airfield -- “We’re not on the edge of the world, but we can see it from here")
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To: Cardhu

I had gone to Greenwich 27 June.


12 posted on 09/18/2005 4:19:21 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (Kandahar Airfield -- “We’re not on the edge of the world, but we can see it from here")
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To: Cannonette
Touring HMS Victory was a dream come true for me. I'm a big Hornblower fan and, according to Cannonette, rather a bit piratical myself. Spent all afternoon aboard Victory, then remembered that our car was still parked at Explosion! so we set off at best speed back to the ferry, getting rained on along the way. The lovely Cannonette discovered pink cotton outergarments become transparent when wet. Went back to Gosport, long walk back to Priddy's Hard, stopped on the bridge to watch the Red Arrows, discovered our car locked up in the Explosion! parking lot.
13 posted on 09/18/2005 5:26:28 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (Kandahar Airfield -- “We’re not on the edge of the world, but we can see it from here")
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To: Stoat

Thanks for the information. I was curious because I noticed Horatio Nelson was there around the time of the War of 1812.


14 posted on 09/18/2005 11:49:51 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Stoat

Oops, not THE War of 1812. I mean US- British relations must have been pretty bad during Nelson's time, which precluded the War of 1812, fought between the Americans and the British.


15 posted on 09/18/2005 11:53:08 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: CarrotAndStick
US- British relations must have been pretty bad during Nelson's time

Although this was certainly true at the time of the Revolutionary War, and for good reason, Nelson's letter which I posted to you earlier suggests,  to me at least, that in later years Nelson as well as the Crown were feeling far differently toward us Yanks.  The tone of his letter suggests more than merely a perfunctory acquiescence of British national policy, it suggests an honest and heartfelt desire to maintain the good relations that had developed and to nurture trade and goodwill.  Bear in mind that the Revolutionary war ended (officially) in 1786, and Nelson's letter is dated 1797.  A great deal can happen in eleven years, and Nelson was a brilliant man who surely recognized the value and necessity of getting along with us and working with us whenever possible; not only because it was his Government's policy but because he certainly recognized that it was simply the right thing to do. 

Here's a biographical page on Nelson.  Although it doesn't address his innermost, private thoughts on matters of National policy, it does provide a timeline of sorts which may be helpful to place events in context.

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Viscount Horatio Nelson 1758-1805

 

Viscount Nelson 1758-1805
 


Horatio Nelson is generally regarded as the greatest officer in the history of the Royal Navy. His reputation is based on a series of remarkable victories, culminating at the Battle of Trafalgar where he was killed in his moment of triumph. The poet Byron referred to him as ‘Britannia’s God of War’.

Nelson joined the navy aged 12 in 1770, and experienced sailing in the West Indies, the Northwest passage when only 14 and in the North Sea. Promoted post-Captain in 1779 at the age of 20, his first command was the frigate HMS Hinchingbroke. Nelson was later charged with taking the young Prince William (the future William IV) to the West Indies aboard HMS Albemarle.

When the French Revolutionary Wars began in 1793, Nelson was given command of the ship of the line HMS Agamemnon and was assigned to the Mediterranean. There he took part in the capture of Corsica in 1794; while directing guns at the siege of town of Calvi he was hit in the face by a shower of gravel and blinded in his right eye.

Nelson first came to fame at the Battle of Cape St Vincent on 14 February 1797 when his initiative in command of HMS Captain helped prevent the Spanish Fleet from escaping the clutches of Sir John Jervis. At the height of the battle he captured two Spanish ships, the San Nicholas and the San José, leading the boarding party in person from one to the other. It was extremely unusual for a flag officer to lead such an attack and was even more remarkable given that the second assault was up the side of the large three deck San José which surrendered immediately. This heroic action became known in the Royal Navy as ‘Nelson’s Patent Bridge for Boarding First Rates’.

One of Nelson’s few reverses came in July 1797 during the operation to capture the town of Santa Cruz in the Canary Islands. During the second failed attack, Nelson lost his right arm while leading one of the landing parties in an attempt to assault the town frontally.

In 1798, in command of his own fleet of fourteen ships, he destroyed a French fleet of seventeen in the Battle of Aboukir Bay at the mouth of the Nile. It was the most overwhelming victory in the age of sail. All the key elements of the Nelsonian system were present – personal courage, tactical genius and the sharing of his innovative tactics with his captains, his ‘band of brothers’. The breaking of the French line by Captain Thomas Foley in HMS Goliath was an excellent example of the tactical independence which Nelson expected of his captains. Following the battle Nelson was based at Naples where his celebrated liaison began with Lady Emma Hamilton, the wife of the British ambassador.

Nelson was only second in command of the fleet sent against Denmark in 1801, but after famously turning his blinded eye to the telescope ordering him to retreat, carried the assault on Copenhagen to a successful conclusion. After this success he was promoted to Vice Admiral and took command of the Mediterranean Fleet in 1803.

Finally at the Battle of Trafalgar on 21 October 1805 with 27 ships of the line he inflicted a crushing defeat on the numerically superior Franco-Spanish fleet of 33, of which only 17 escaped. Hit by a musket ball from a French sharpshooter on the Redoutable at about 1315 he was taken below and died on HMS Victory’s Orlop Deck at 1630 in the knowledge that he had achieved another famous victory.


Nelson’s genius was to recognise that at this time both the French and Spanish Navies were greatly inferior to the British in professional skills such as gunnery and ship handling and that risks could be taken to win crushing victories. Nelson’s passion for risk taking lost him the sight of an eye, an arm and eventually his life but, together with his remarkable charismatic leadership skills they created a legend that inspires the Royal Navy to this day.

Further reading:
J.B. Hattendorf, “The Struggle with France” in J.R. Hill (Ed.), The Oxford Illustrated History of the Royal Navy (Oxford, 1995).
B. Lavery, “Nelson: Aboukir, 1798” and G. Jordan, “Nelson: Trafalgar, 1805” in E.J. Grove (Ed) Great Battles of the Royal Navy (London, 1994).
C. White, 1797 Nelson’s Year of Destiny: Cape St Vincent and Santa Cruz de Tenerife (Stroud, 1998).


16 posted on 09/18/2005 12:26:10 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

Up the lads!


17 posted on 09/18/2005 12:31:30 PM PDT by rahbert
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To: CarrotAndStick
Whoops!  My error.  The Revolutionary War officially ended in 1784 with the signing of the Treaty of Paris, not 1786 as my fuzzy stoat brain had suggested to me earlier.  My bad  :-(. 

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18 posted on 09/18/2005 1:08:26 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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