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To: HitmanNY
Fairness doesn't mean everybody wins. It means everybody is in a comparable position with neither at a notable disadvantage. If some people aren't getting what they feel they deserve, it's incumbent on them to make adjustments, man or woman.

Reminds me of a discussion I had with a co-worker about general human nature and so on. This is a bit off-topic, but it was an interesting topic to discuss. There are all kinds of people out there. BTW, he is 26 years old (I'm 39), conservative and we both have Jim Quinn, Glenn Beck, Rush and Hannity on our walkmans and we are both avid Savage listeners. When "Pinky" Reid attacked President Bush earlier, we both got looks of rage on our faces and our jaws dropped.

Anyhoo, back to the discussion. We were talking about the Star Trek TOS (The Original Show) episode about where Kirk and Co. met the Greek God Apollo. Well basically Apollo wanted to care for people and get their worship. I joked saying, "I would not have destroyed him, I'd cut him a deal, we can send people who are on welfare for generations, Apollo could care for them, he'd get what he wants and they get what they want." My co-worker had a serious look on his face and said, "you know what? That would be an excellent idea!!!"

I don't know what to think on human nature, but I'm convinced that there are some people out there that would be more happy being virtual slaves or at least having some or all of their choices dictated to them. I'm sure there are people in Russia that would be happier under the old USSR. I think deep down inside, there is some parts of the brain, some scientists call it the reptilian part of the brain, to were there is a desire to "follow the leader." One question I like to ask about human nature is are we born with free will and we "learn to follow the leader" and have someone or something dictate our choices or is it opposite to where we are born in chains and we need to learn to be free? Hmmm, sounds like another discussion topic with my friend.

I once knew a kid who was in our Twilight: 2000 role playing gaming group. I don't know how or when the topic of the TV show "Roots" came about but he said that he "wouldn't mind being a slave, you had your housing, food, medical care (what there was then), job, etc., provided for." I said, after a long "South Park style" stare, "yeah, but your at the mercy of you master" and a lot of other nasty things. Dunno how familiar you are with Star Trek, but he would have loved to be assimilated into the Borg. Ugh, I don't think being a Borg Drone would look good on the old resume. B-) Needless to say, he was a weird one, he was always weird, but he got more weird as he got older. B-P He ran his Twilight: 2000 character like he was Charlie Manson or something, to make the long story short, the rest of the group got me aside and told me he was making the gaming sessions a virtual Hell so I had to kick him out of the group. He's in my "hall of fame of gaming horror stories." Don't know whatever happened to him, either he is in jail or hopefully got his life straight.

Come to think of it, Charlie Manson is a perfect study for this, up until his release from prison in 1967, he spent half of his life in jail and was used to a controlled life and he begged not to be released because of it. Well, we know what happened. I read this in a good article I have in my college psychology textbook on Manson's history, I still have it but I got to dig it up.

Sorry for my rambling a bit off topic or at least me stepping back and looking at the forest instead of the trees, but your reply reminded me of that discussion and esperiences I've had.

Still on this subject, I often wonder about things like these, I know if I was an alien from another planet observing Humanity, I would ask and ponder on these types of questions as I embarked on my study. Forgive my rambling, I'm just in a thoughtful yet tangent prone mood and I'm tired. Well I got to stop, got to get up for work. B-)
570 posted on 09/20/2005 8:19:30 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian, Michael Savage in '08! - Any Questions?)
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To: Nowhere Man

I hear you. Ultimately, we all get what we deserve.

Guys who sit at home alone and complains that women don't like 'nice guys' like him and instead prefer 'jerks' really should consider changing their approach and habits, rather than getting mad at reality.

Gals who dedicate most of their time and energy on a career in their 20s and 30s might find themselves overlooked by men who turn them down in favor of women with less time demands.

People of both sexes who think a negative attitude will win a wonderous romantic companion need to really look at themselves and CHANGE!


572 posted on 09/20/2005 8:35:03 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: Nowhere Man

A bit off topic, yes, but an interesting and though provoking reply.


576 posted on 09/20/2005 9:19:57 PM PDT by nopardons
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