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To: nopardons; Nowhere Man; cyborg
Well, I've found another link in the chronology:

From Webster's 1828 edition (no mention at all of a virgin being a man):

VIR''GIN, n. nearly vur''gin. [L. virgo.]
1. A woman who has had no carnal knowledge of man.
2. A woman not a mother. [Unusual.]
3. The sign Virgo. [See Virgo.]

So I add the 1828 entry to my chronology:

1200: virgin means a chaste woman of great piety.

1300s: first known use of virgin for a man (which for all I know may have been used by a gay man to describe his boyfriend).

1828: man as a virgin is NOT mentioned at all in Webster's

1960: a man as a virgin is the sixth definition in Webster's--way down the list.

1980s: a man as a virgin has climbed to number 2.

2000's: And today, the number 1 definition of virgin is no longer a female--but a "person."

And so the women's libbers have won: men are now officially feminized

581 posted on 09/20/2005 10:19:14 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Age of Reason
You still don't get it! ROTFLOL

Different dictionaries, even those with Webster in the title, don't list definitions in the same order, nor, for that matter, include as many definitions of a specific word.

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ! You've lost this round, as you've lost every single other one.

You're beating the dust of this long dead horse and just continuing your fool's progress. ;^)

I guess that you're just so lonely, that any attention is preferable to being ignored completely; which you are so used to.

582 posted on 09/20/2005 10:26:12 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Age of Reason
I REALLY wish that you would stop going around on this merry-go-round of yours, about the word"virgin".

You have been doing this for 2 DAYS now, and where has it gotten you?

Except to get thoroughly spanked by a long-time member of FR. And believe me, you HAVE been spanked, GOOD AND HARD, by nopardons!!

SO WHAT if it(the use of the word "virgin" to describe a pure man)is 1st, 3rd, 6th, or 1000th, in the various dictionaries, that you have skimmed over. It STILL means the same thing!!

584 posted on 09/20/2005 10:39:10 PM PDT by Rca2000 ( "What? No gravy? (POW!!) "Next time, remember the gravy!!!"(From "Chow Hound",1951.))
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To: Age of Reason; nopardons; Rca2000

The reason why I asked you if you are a christian is because the standards of sexual purity apply to both a man and woman. Your original comment that prompted this discussion suggests that you aren't. Even if you aren't a christian, I think today's society warrants some standards. You are a man and as such, men can pass on STDs without symptoms. You can 'have sex with her' but you know you can pass on a disease to your virginal bride after you've proven how much of a non-virgin you are.


598 posted on 09/21/2005 3:47:50 AM PDT by cyborg (Thank you dear Lord for my new job, breath in my lungs and my future husband petronski.)
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