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Muslims Enraged, Seething at Tasty Dessert (picture of infidel dessert included)
little green footballs ^ | 9/17/05 | Charles Johnsom

Posted on 09/18/2005 5:18:50 PM PDT by frankjr

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To: Migraine
By adducing it as in some way parallel to the PA crash site, I assume you are suggesting that.

No. I'm pointing out that in "Western Culture" (and in fact in many cultures) vertical objects arranged in an arc or curve, and arches, arches and curves generally (not infrequently illuminated to a golden or red color at night) are *common* forms of memorial and monumental architecture, that this tradition and not some "Islamic crescent" is what the architects of the memorial are referencing, and that in my opinion the people upset about this are dingbats ignorant of their own Western cultural traditions.

Here here are a few examples - these are one’s that came to mind offhand just thinking of “War Memorials” where I could quickly find a pic, there are literally thousands of others :

Australia:

http://www.deewhyrsl.com.au/images/photos/War%20Memorial/War%20Memorial%20Night.jpg
http://www.billdevine.com.au/andrea/sydney/images/80364%20War%20Memorial%202.jpg
http://www.rslnsw.com.au/uploads/Rose%20Garden%20Kokada%20Walkway.jpg

Germany:

http://www.berlin-info.de/deutsch/sights/big/s_15_b.jpg
http://www.longmeadow.org/gog/photos/War-Memorial.jpg

Italy:

http://www.cwrl.utexas.edu/~bump/E392M/SJ/Tomb%20of%20the%20Italian%20Unknown%20Soldier.jpg

UK:

http://www.kelso-online.co.uk/images/Abbey-memorial.jpg
http://www.dva.gov.au/images/commem/mem_day_large.jpg

USA:

http://www.soulofamerica.com/images/photosdc/BlackCivilWarMem_n.jpg
http://www.usafa.org/pages/images2/War-Memorial.jpg
http://www.custermuseum.org/Peacememorial.jpg
http://www.easternindiana.com/images/War%20Memorial%201.gif
http://www.coral-lab.org/~catalano/photos/arlington/arlington-Images/3.jpg
http://home.st.net.au/~dunn/airfields/si16.jpg
http://www.longmeadow.org/gog/photos/War-Memorial.jpg
http://briggl.com/travelogues/040922washingtonDC/images/thumbs/DSCN0899.jpg http://www.wvculture.org/history/12.jpg

USSR:

http://www.friends-partners.org/partners/skipevans/atl/russia/pg20-03.jpg

Wales:

http://www.mabot.com/images/2001/n5/0104-0735%20wales%20circular%20war%20memorial.jpg

And a few from non-Western cultures:

Iraq:

http://home.nc.rr.com/billyandjenn/Baghdad%20Photos/Tomb%20of%20unknown%20soldier02.JPG

Japan:

http://www.thought-and-memory.co.uk/photos/hiroshima_memorial.jpg

Singapore:

http://verify.idp.com/singapore/Aus%20War%20Memorial.jpg

121 posted on 09/19/2005 10:31:43 AM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas
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To: M. Dodge Thomas
Naturally, I was being rather sarca(u)stic; if people can't differentiate between a crescent and an arch, then we better get rid of the Roman aqueducts, and some of the old Spanish missions.

Ogee windows and doors also come to mind as verboten, along with eyebrow dormers. Are domes next?

Grain silos (I always joke farmers are the biggest group of amateur astronomers; they all seem to have 'observatories'!) may be mistaken for minarets

Maybe start using rectilinear horseshoes, and boycott Crescent Tools, too, though I shouldn't really give them ideas.

When I finally saw a picture of the Flight 93 Monument, I couldn't believe that a simple arc was being interpreted as a "crescent".


OTOH, the architect seems to be responsible:

"This is not about any religion per se," Murdoch said in a telephone interview with the Tribune-Democrat in Johnstown. "It's a spiritual space, and a sacred place, but it's open to anyone."

The word "crescent," he said, was used as a generic architectural term for a curved line.

"Sure, there is an Islamic crescent," Murdoch said. "Theirs is a lunar crescent. Ours isn't based on that."

So, he never heard of arc, arch, bow, ogee, conic section, catenary, or other 'generic terms' for a curve? Like certain artists who feign innocence when called on various things, he knew exactly how inflamatory it would be to so describe it.

The 'not about religion per se' tell me that it is about religion, de facto...but, I can choose to ignore that interpretation while looking at it, and think of it as an encompassing bow.

122 posted on 09/19/2005 10:49:12 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Marching Morons are coming...and they're breeding more Democrats beyond all reason!)
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To: jwfiv
Pile of poo ping.


123 posted on 09/19/2005 12:38:44 PM PDT by Serb5150 (www.illmitch.com)
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To: frankjr
Dear Burger King:

Whom would you rather offend?
The killer sandmaggots?
Or the rest of us?

Think carefully.

124 posted on 09/19/2005 12:42:48 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: frankjr

If I were the burger king CEO, I would have fired his @$$ and referred him to the authorities for deportation. I would also have asked that he and all his friends be investigated for terror ties. Jihads can be violent.


125 posted on 09/19/2005 12:50:37 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Hey, Cindy Sheehan, grow up!)
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To: M. Dodge Thomas
Sounds like the dingbats here in the US who are enraged because the memorial resembles a crescent.

Watch it!

I resemble that remark!

S. Dingbat

126 posted on 09/19/2005 1:31:13 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: M. Dodge Thomas

Give it a rest!


127 posted on 09/19/2005 1:36:46 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Thumper1960

>> She crapped another "Allah" on the curb. <<

ROTFLMAO!!! Thanks. Best laugh I've had since Friday.


128 posted on 09/19/2005 1:43:56 PM PDT by appalachian_dweller (Get Prepared. Stay Prepared. See my FR Homepage for a list of actions and supplies.)
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To: Jonx6

ping


129 posted on 09/19/2005 1:52:51 PM PDT by TXFireman
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