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To: snarks_when_bored
I've read up a lot on the creation/evolution debate over the past couple years and determined that evolution is the biggest heap of garbage ever perpetrated on us. I don't want to get in to a whole debate here, because it's been done to death... but I would like to give folks a couple links... I've read tons of stuff, but a few months ago, found this blog... it's not your normal blog with trackbacks, comments, ads, etc.. just check it out you'll see what I mean. Anyway, this is an awesome daily reader... and all but completely stays away from saying anything "religious" other than occasionally pointing out how Darwinists are far more religious and have to leave a lot to their faith to believe their crap, which is why they constantly assume so much.

Anyway, I don't want to ramble, but check this site out... Highly researched and scientific with great commentary on articles.
http://creationsafaris.com/crevnews.htm

Another site is this one http://answersingenesis.org/ that is more toward the "mission" side of things, but one of the biggest creationist organizations, and because of this they have a lot of good information... but it's not a blog-style site with daily updates the way the other site is, which I prefer.. I've gotten to the point where it's one of the first pages I view every day.
21 posted on 09/19/2005 4:02:35 AM PDT by rabair (Religion of Peace Strikes Again.... Sprinkling Peace Shrapnel All Over the World!")
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To: rabair

How many books have you read that were written by evolutionists?


23 posted on 09/19/2005 4:05:41 AM PDT by Skylab
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To: rabair
Since you're sure that evolution is garbage, perhaps you'll respond to my request on two other threads for a creationist/intelligent design solution to the so-called 'biogeography problem'. (BTW, I notice that in his second paragraph, Watson alludes to precisely that problem.) To my mind, it's the knock-down argument against any notion of special creation or intelligent design placement of organisms on this planet. Here are the links:

The biogeography problem (post #95)

The IDist trilemma with respect to the biogeography problem (post #98)

Another request for a response to the biogeography problem

I look forward to your reply (just as I looked forward to Dave's reply, which I never got).

31 posted on 09/19/2005 4:34:42 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: rabair
I've read up a lot on the creation/evolution debate over the past couple years and determined that evolution is the biggest heap of garbage ever perpetrated on us.

Well, lets see, on the one hand we have James Watson, discoverer of the double-helix, probably the most famous biologist who ever lived (after Darwin), who says Evolution is a fact, disputed only by those who choose to ignore the evidence, put their common sense on hold and believe instead that unchanging knowledge and wisdom can be reached only by revelation . And there thirty other Noble prizewinners who just wrote to the Kansas School Board to say the same thing.

And we have some J. Random Bozo on the Internet who says that he's found a blog that says it's all wrong.

Who has more credibility? Hmmmm...?

43 posted on 09/19/2005 5:18:27 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: rabair

This is indeed the big confusion: Darwin, or science, is not Darwinism.

The former are thesis requiring antithesis or fine tuning, the latter is a political cult of repent.


50 posted on 09/19/2005 5:36:49 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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To: rabair

Thanks for the links to those sites!


67 posted on 09/19/2005 6:38:27 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: rabair

"I've read up a lot on the creation/evolution debate over the past couple years and determined that evolution is the biggest heap of garbage ever perpetrated on us. "

Well, now. That settles it, then.....


68 posted on 09/19/2005 6:41:51 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: rabair
I have done a lot of reading and taken several college level courses. There are some major problems with evolution in my mind.
1. The origin of life on earth. (presumably prokaryotic cells in a non oxygen containing atmosphere)
2. The origin and evolution of DNA.
3. The evolution of the eukaryotic cell.

There are some other technical problems concerning the fact that some animals aren't well adapted to the environment that they exist in.
71 posted on 09/19/2005 6:47:03 AM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: rabair
You're getting information from Creationsafaris and Answers In Genesis? No wonder you're so misinformed. The tripe these people spout out has no foundation in reality whatsoever.

Try reading some good science books based on peer-review scientific literature; some of you misunderstandings may be corrected.

It ain't true just because it's on the internet; there's lots of tricksters out there with their hands out.

93 posted on 09/19/2005 8:35:02 AM PDT by Quark2005 (Where's the science?)
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To: rabair

I hope you haven't given either of those huckster sites too much of your money.

If you want to know about evolution can I suggest that you get a scientific education. Only someone without one can fall prey to the deceitful nonsense on CreationSafaris, AiG, ICR, or DrDino. It is all designed specifically to appeal to people who don't really understand science, and to place money in the pockets of the site owners.

Those sites would have us reject not just modern biology, but atomic physics, astronomy, paleontology, archeology, geography, cosmology, and geology. (and I've probably missed some ologys out.) Essentially if AiG is right then most science for the last 150 years is wrong and must be thrown away. To contend that this is likely on an internet discussion forum (which only works because of our modern scientific understanding) is beyond parody.

If you want to find out what happens when a dedicated creationist with scientific training who writes papers for AiG comes up against the real scientific data try googling on "Glenn Morton's Story".


102 posted on 09/19/2005 9:23:12 AM PDT by Thatcherite (Conservative and Biblical Literalist are not synonymous)
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To: rabair

Neither of the sites linked to have a good grasp of science and much of what they spew has been debunked by scientists many times.


115 posted on 09/19/2005 9:54:22 AM PDT by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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To: rabair
I've gotten to the point where it's (AiG) one of the first pages I view every day.

I suppose if one makes it a daily point to keep his head buried in the sand, you'll never have to deal with reality? Have you ever read a real science book or is bogus pseudo science good enough for you?

148 posted on 09/19/2005 11:40:52 AM PDT by shuckmaster
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