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Looters' caches popping up in New Orleans
AP ^ | 9/19/5 | BRETT MARTEL

Posted on 09/19/2005 7:41:43 AM PDT by SmithL

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To: rdb3

Cute little image, but it doesn't take away the fact that you are wrong.


41 posted on 09/19/2005 8:49:42 AM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: SmithL

A first year law student could probably get most of the evidence suppressed claiming unlawful searches and seizures. Best just to find the rightful owner and return the items.


42 posted on 09/19/2005 8:50:37 AM PDT by flada (Y2K? What are you selling, chicken or sex jelly?)
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To: Black Tooth
Whatever you say.


If you want a Google GMail account, FReepmail me.
They're going fast!

43 posted on 09/19/2005 8:50:44 AM PDT by rdb3 (NON-conservative, American exceptionalist here.)
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To: Black Tooth

Sorry charlie, but you are not taking into account "a jury of your peers" or nagging little details like chain of custody. Calling BS and making lots of assertive posts do not win in a court of law. Consider that we have first person accounts of survivors, even LEO's, who broke into houses out of necessity. Further, the fact that the NG broke into your house is proof-positive that you were not there in control of your premises. Feel free to go on believing what you will, but try to offer up some legal basis for your assertions. Cite just one case where a person was previously convicted of "receiving" under similar circumstances.


44 posted on 09/19/2005 8:51:12 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Freedom of speech makes it much easier to spot the idiots." [Jay Lessig, 2/7/2005])
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To: rdb3

Wrong again. It's not what I say. That's the way the law works.


45 posted on 09/19/2005 8:51:42 AM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: SmithL
But the man told the soldiers he had no idea where the goods came from and that someone else must have broken into his home and stashed them there after he evacuated.

Why is it that no one ever leaves a stash big screen TVs in my house when they break in?

46 posted on 09/19/2005 8:56:27 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (We need a strict constructionist - not someone who plays shadow puppet theater with the Constitution)
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To: rdb3

They won't even try to prosecute them because they would have to start with the police.


47 posted on 09/19/2005 8:57:19 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: NonValueAdded
Your right. Everyone out there that is found with a home full of stolen goods, 40 pounds of drugs, whatever, are all innocent. And without finger print evidence on the goods, no conviction.

"But officer, I just found all this stuff, and put it in my home, and I was going to bring it to the police station just before you showed up".

What a great alibi!!

48 posted on 09/19/2005 8:58:07 AM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: Black Tooth

Actually, that's not always true. They found a person in possession of my stolen bike and he was just allowed to go free after I recovered my bike. In fact, they almost charged me for assault when I beat him up for taking my bike.


49 posted on 09/19/2005 9:01:22 AM PDT by TypeZoNegative (Future Minnesota Refugee)
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To: TypeZoNegative
Sounds like I am only getting half a story here. Did the police find the stolen bike in the suspects home or in his possession? Doesn't sound like it.
50 posted on 09/19/2005 9:04:08 AM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: Black Tooth

I refer you to the "First Law of Holes." I am NOT saying that the homeowners are all innocent but there is a big difference between actual guilt and conviction in a court of law. You seem to be confusing the two. Guilty people are found not guilty all the time. I give you OJ as the best example for this situation.

How about "Officer, I just returned home and found out I'd been broken into and all of this stuff was here. My phone is not working so I could not report it. I was so afraid to venture outside lest the criminals that stashed this stuff see me that I barricaded myself inside. Thank God you are here."


51 posted on 09/19/2005 9:07:01 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Freedom of speech makes it much easier to spot the idiots." [Jay Lessig, 2/7/2005])
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To: SmithL
military patrols making house-to-house checks for remaining residents or the dead are finding some of the hiding places for the stolen goods.

But will they able to do any thing because when they enter the house they did not have a search warrant?... you know that will come up if they prosecute... also if it's a federal troop making the find how does Posse Comitatus come in on reporting the loot... this could get it interesting later on

52 posted on 09/19/2005 9:09:39 AM PDT by tophat9000 (This bulletin just in:"Chinese's Fire Drill's" will now be known as "New Orleans' Hurricane Drill's")
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Actually, it was in his posession, but he was seen at his house with the bike. They couldn't arrest him because he could feasably say that he got the bike 4 months ago from a friend.

So what friend would give somebody a 400 dollar full suspension mountian bike for free?

53 posted on 09/19/2005 9:10:07 AM PDT by TypeZoNegative (Future Minnesota Refugee)
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To: SmithL
As Celine Dion...said...

"....Maybe those people are so poor, some of the people who do that they're so poor they've never touched anything in their lives. Let them touch those things for once."

What a moron.

54 posted on 09/19/2005 9:10:43 AM PDT by Osage Orange (People will always disappoint you.........)
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How about "Officer, I just returned home and found out I'd been broken into and all of this stuff was here. My phone is not working so I could not report it

Hey, I think you're onto something!

How about, "Officer, I just got home, and found my house was full of really neat new stuff, and I was just on my way to the police station to report it".

You're not a criminal defense attorney are you?

This is too funny!

55 posted on 09/19/2005 9:12:47 AM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: SmithL
video game system with a pawn shop ticket still attached.

Something like that would be easily checked out. I hope the cops were smart enough to check for fingerprints... : ) <<< me

56 posted on 09/19/2005 9:14:46 AM PDT by stopsign ( ("What great fortune for government, that people don't think". ...Der Fuhrer... [hummmm...]))
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To: Zacs Mom

"Send a kayak!"


57 posted on 09/19/2005 9:15:07 AM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: TypeZoNegative
Actually, it was in his posession, but he was seen at his house with the bike. They couldn't arrest him because he could feasably say that he got the bike 4 months ago from a friend.

It was in his possession, but he was seen at his house with the bike?? What does this mean?

And what does this have to do with a house full of stolen loot?

58 posted on 09/19/2005 9:15:30 AM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: TypeZoNegative
They found a person in possession of my stolen bike and he was just allowed to go free after I recovered my bike.

So in other words, when they found the suspect, he was not in possession of the bike.

Actually, it was in his posession, but he was seen at his house with the bike.

Which is it?

59 posted on 09/19/2005 9:19:28 AM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: SmithL
...and bags of ammunition still packaged in 500-round bundles...

Note to self: purchase lock for basement door...

60 posted on 09/19/2005 9:21:35 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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