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Rally 'Round the Flag!--See You At The Pole--this Wednesday before school, at EVERY SCHOOL!
Site news release ^ | 09/19/2005 | self

Posted on 09/19/2005 11:01:18 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance

Teachers, Parents, Students, Homeschoolers, Citizens--

This Wednesday 9/21 is See You At The Pole day, people all across the country are meeting at school flagpoles before school for prayer. A great way for teachers, parents and students to connect and encourage one another on campus....home schoolers, please also help defend and protect your rights on taxpayer-owned land by showing up!

See You at the Pole is a student-initiated and student-led movement that started in the Ft. Worth suburb of Burleson, Texas, in 1990. Everything necessary for students to plan and promote a successful SYATP is available free at http://www.syatp.com.

In 2004, more than 2 million teenagers met for See You at the Pole in all 50 states. Internationally, reports came in from countries on six continents, including Congo, Bahamas, Germany, Ghana, Guam, Hong Kong, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Kenya, South Korea, Malaysia, Nicaragua, Nigeria, Norway, Peru, Portugal, Romania, Singapore, and South Africa.

Additional Education/Religious Historical/Legal Resources:

Pacific Justice Institute--1,000 pro-bono CONSERVATIVE attorneys, 500 in California alone!


Gateways to Better Education


David Barton/Wallbuilders


American Center for Law and Justice (Jay Sekulow)


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters
KEYWORDS: aclu; billofrights; christianstudents; freedomofassembly; freedomofreligion; freedomofspeech; newdow; patriotism; pspl; schoolprayer; syatp
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1 posted on 09/19/2005 11:01:20 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance
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To: EdReform; Calpernia; Born Conservative; pookie18; Howlin; little jeremiah; trussell; Alamo-Girl; ...

Please ping and bump and ESPECIALLY, please email outside of FR to others who need this information. We need to reclaim our schools and stand together as conservatives of all faiths, One Nation, Under God.

Thanks.

Blur




3 posted on 09/19/2005 11:04:52 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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To: Blurblogger

Bumpety bump!


4 posted on 09/19/2005 11:06:59 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri <strike>Schiavo</strike> Schindler - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Baynative

This has been going on for years. The best part about THIS year, is that, as President of the school's Christian group, MY SON is organizing it for his high school


5 posted on 09/19/2005 11:07:03 AM PDT by HeadOn (Don't talk to me about global warming unless you don't own a car.)
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To: Baynative

Excellent idea, it could be used in past tense, as "why were you out there?"

It may or may not be 'legal' during school hours, before or after school apparently is OK, so this is before school begins.


6 posted on 09/19/2005 11:07:28 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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To: Blurblogger

As long as this is student/parent-organized, I think it's legally impregnable--and also much more effective than any "offical" ceremony at demonstrating true patriotism and/or devotion to God.


7 posted on 09/19/2005 11:22:34 AM PDT by sourcery (Givernment: The way the average voter spells "government.")
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To: Blurblogger

Why on this particular day? And is this supposed to be non-students and parents who don't have students at the public school who are going to show up?

Prayers at the flagpole have been going on in most schools for years.

What hasn't been going on is non-students and adults who don't have students at a school showing up on campus. That's pretty much a no-no at all the public schools I know about.

From this story, it sounds like a bunch of home-school kids and their parents are going to show up at a public school and insist on praying at the flagpole. Bad idea.

There's a good reason to keep people who aren't students or parents of students off our public school campuses. It's the law in most places.

I volunteer at schools to do sessions on my area of expertise. I have to get a background check, a TB test, and have a specific class and time before I'm allowed on campus.

What the heck? The students at the schools are already praying around the flagpole. I assume the home-school kids are praying wherever they want. This just doesn't make sense to me.


8 posted on 09/19/2005 11:26:29 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Blurblogger
It may or may not be 'legal' during school hours

wrong no one can stop you from expressing your beliefs even during school hours. the ACLU hasnt taken that from us yet

9 posted on 09/19/2005 11:28:27 AM PDT by curtisgardner
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To: Blurblogger

'legal' ??

What are the schools going to do? Arrest the students for saying the Pledge & reciting prayers?

What part of the U.S. Constitution gives them the right for THAT?


10 posted on 09/19/2005 11:30:50 AM PDT by hombre_sincero (www.sigmaitsys.com)
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11 posted on 09/19/2005 11:32:52 AM PDT by Born Conservative ("I'm expecting that some people who are die-hards will die hard.'' -NOLA parish president)
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To: Blurblogger; All
The school my children attend has always been a small town oriented school, close knit, and since the town is religious, so was the school ceremonies.

But at the start of this school season, the tradition of meeting every morning around the flag pole seems to have taken on a whole new meaning with the hiring of a new high school principle.

My son, and about 250 other students had rallied around the flag pole for prayer before actual time for school to begin. They were having a prayer at the time for the victims of hurricane Katrina. As well as the normal everyday things that they say prayer for.

Then the new principle approached the crowd and told the group to break it up, that he would not support such activities on school campus as it might offend someone.

I must say, a lot of things that goes on in school today offends me as a parent, but I don't have the choice to opt my child out of the offensive program.

Who gets to decide where that line is drawn.

Why does the seperation clause of the "wall between Church and State" seem to have a door in it that only liberals have a key to, and that only swings one way;

and that way being in allowing the state to decide what is justified as "freedom of religion", and what is decided as "forced state religion".
12 posted on 09/19/2005 11:35:30 AM PDT by BedRock ("A country that doesn't enforce it's laws will live in chaos, & will cease to exist.")
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To: BedRock

Contact an attorney. That principal can't do that. The courts have made it clear that students may gather and pray around the flagpole.

A letter from an attorney should do the trick. If not, further steps can be taken. The new principal at your school simply hasn't gotten the word.

Kids can pray at the flag. It's their right to do so, and every case has been won in court. The principal will back down.

Now, non-students and outsiders should not be allowed on campus for this activity. That's a danger we can all recognize. Even those who pray have been known to be abusers of young people.


13 posted on 09/19/2005 11:41:48 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Blurblogger

We do this every Friday at our school.


14 posted on 09/19/2005 11:45:57 AM PDT by secret garden (<= easily amused)
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To: MineralMan
Thanks for your reply.

I am hoping the repeated gatherings at the flagpole every morning since will quelch this person's attempt to diminish the liberties of others.

So far it has worked.
15 posted on 09/19/2005 11:49:28 AM PDT by BedRock ("A country that doesn't enforce it's laws will live in chaos, & will cease to exist.")
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To: Baynative

I didn't realize this till last week. My 15 year old homeschooled daughter organized a See you at the pole rally last year.

By herself...at my flagpole in my front yard.


16 posted on 09/19/2005 11:56:26 AM PDT by cyclotic (Cub Scouts-Teach 'em young to be men, and politically incorrect in the process)
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To: BedRock; EdReform

"Then the new principle approached the crowd and told the group to break it up, that he would not support such activities on school campus as it might offend someone."

Contact Pacific Justice on this one, right away. That is exactly the kinds of cases they handle, usually with just a nice, firm letter that corrects any misunderstanding that may exist on the part of the school staff or school board.


17 posted on 09/19/2005 12:23:09 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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To: TexCon

ping


18 posted on 09/19/2005 12:43:45 PM PDT by TaxRelief (follow the money...)
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To: Blurblogger

I'm probably going to forget about it until its too late unless i see some people around the flagpole that morning, but does anyone know what time this is usually at?


19 posted on 09/19/2005 1:03:17 PM PDT by Hyzenthlay
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To: MineralMan
This just doesn't make sense to me.

No surprise here...

20 posted on 09/19/2005 1:04:40 PM PDT by DBeers ()
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