[CarolinaGuitarman]

" Epistemologically speaking, have you searched everywhere?"

How does one search for something that isn't matter? What empirical tests are there for non-material entities? I did not say that matter is all there is, just that we as material have no way to test *spirit*.

"(Is the meaning of the proposition the electrons and photons?)"

"Meaning" is only something we give to things. Electrons and protons exist whether we ever noticed them.

"And what is this 'evidence' thing that you are talking about? Is it matter, too?"

You don't believe in physical evidence? How odd.

"You can't prove empiricism empirically."

You can't gather evidence subjectively. Look, our senses are physical; we can only detect that which is physical. Does that mean we are limited to using physical causes in our scientific explanations? Absolutely. Does that mean there is nothing that is non-material, that *spirit* doesn't exist? No; it just means that by using our senses we cannot make any objective statements about non-material things.
That doesn't mean though that there is any better way to examine the non-material. I know of no objective way to examine the non-material realm, if it exists.

I will admit that as you have said in a previous post to a different Freeper, I too am just a putter here on these threads. I don't claim to be an expert, though I am working to better my knowledge.

BTW, what kind of music/instrument do you play? :)

[Diamond]

Electric Bass. Fretless. Prefer Jazz and classical music but will listen to just about anything. Thank you for asking.

"Meaning" is only something we give to things

My point is that "meaning" is not a physical thing. Yet it is real. If we could only detect that which is physical there would be no mathematics or metaphysics or philosophy, or scientific explantions, and a host of other non-material things, and this sentence I'm typing would be completely unintelligible.

Cordially,