LOLOLOLOL! Ah, this truly makes my day.
Such were my own thoughts when I came upon this thread. Normally I would have refrained from pinging the list to a gobucks-initiated thread, as the others I've seen are of no scientific value. But when I read this article, I swiftly deployed the ping list -- with a song in my heart! The author nails it!
"And yet you somehow think this vindicates creationism!"
No, it vindicates my argument that the 'conservative' Christian-haters here at FR share something deeply in common w/ high brow leftists over at TNR. Coincidence, or, ahem, evidence of Intelligent Design?
All I can say is that when 'Republicans' on the "Premier Conservative Web Site" find that the Premier Left Wing high brow magazine has it dead right of just how hopeless Christians are ...
Well, I think its good that the association, which I have always believed is quite real, is observed...
Without us, the folks that own the Republican Primary system, the folks that get elected now wouldn't stand a chance if folks like yourself ran the primary system...
So, exactly, what does this mean?
It means that this wing of scientist types within FreeRepublic are leftists indeed hidden inside a horse. It means they have one goal: if you can't defeat the enemy, divide them after you infiltrate them.
And by painting bible centered Christians as leftists, you get a really effective way to smear the Republican Party core as 'uncool'. Given that shows like South Park are all the rage, and that it is more and more cool to slam true liberals, the only way that remains back to power, if you are a leftist, is to false flag those people who are being followed; and though Christians are not effective in all things, they are quite effective in many.
By the way, I will share with you how I found this article. I have been regularly looking for articles, published by Right Wing magazines, which 'thoroughly discredit' the IDers , and how in in the long run IDers are so terribly bad for the GOP. I still can't find them; maybe you have a reference? Maybe George Shultz runs a popluar magazine I have never heard of...
By the way, the TNR had this to say in their concluding paragraphs in "How I.D. Hurts Conservatives":
There's an odd reversal-of-roles at work here. In the past, it was often the right that tried to draw societal implications from Darwinism, and the left that stood against them. And for understandable reasons: When people draw political conclusions from Darwin's theory, they're nearly always inegalitarian conclusions. Hence social Darwinism, hence scientific racism, hence eugenics.
Which is why however useful intelligent design may be as a rhetorical ploy, liberals eager to claim the mantle of science in the bioethics battle should beware. The left often thinks of modern science as a child of liberalism, but if anything, the reverse is true. And what scientific thought helped to forge--the belief that all human beings are equal--scientific thought can undermine as well. Conservatives may be wrong about evolution, but they aren't necessarily wrong about the dangers of using Darwin, or the National Academy of Sciences, as a guide to political and moral order.
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I find TNR really likes this subject. And that the nazi types, (leftists are consistent), still are painted as 'right wing'. Why do you figure that is Jenny, and more interestly, why do you figure that so many 'Amens!!' are coming from PH's Corner on FR?
It is possible that I am just fantastically disoriented here ... but be a good Freeper please, if you believe this is true. I ask you to direct me to that document which will 'orient' me, and help me see the wisdom of you and your collegues.
Or maybe that one Freeper who used to be a rabid IDer, but due to the care, sensitivity, and excellence of persuasion of Randian types, joined the 'rational side'...
For in truth, I really don't have any desire to be the leftist's fool, and it is quite possible I am wrong in my outlook. The last thing I want is an authentic Freeper to think I subscribe to 'postmodern nihilism'. If that were true, then, by definition, it would be ME who is the leftist, disguised as a conservative, who is attempting to 'split' the core of the true GOP.
And waking up to that truth would be a real bummer...
don't you agree?