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My 29-year-old son is a SSgt in the USAF stationed at Keesler AFB in Biloxi. He was born and raised in the DFW metroplex, where flooding is almost nonexistent. He and his wife were stationed at Keesler from 1996 to 2000 when Hurricane Georges hit. He was living in base housing and the only damage sustained was a downed tree. In August 2004, he was reassigned back to Keesler. In October 2004, he, his wife, and infant daughter bought their first home in the far NW section of Biloxi. At the time of closing, he called and asked our advice on what coverages he should have. At this time I should interject that we are an Allstate family - my father-in-law is a retired Allstate agent here in the Metroplex and we have had Allstate for the 33 years of our marriage. Our best advice was to absolutely carry hurricane coverage and discuss with his Allstate agent and mortgage company the other coverages they would suggest. Wells Fargo (the mortgage company) told him he did not need flood coverage as he was not in a flood plain. His Allstate agent told him he did not need flood coverage as he was not in a flood plain.

As my son was preparing for evacuation with Hurricane Dennis, he met with his insurance agent and asked if he was properly covered for any and all damage from a hurricane. He was told once again that he was covered for any damage to his house and contents and that he had nothing to worry about.

Katrina - he and his family were sheltered in the hospital on Keesler for this hurricane, as it was his "turn" to shelter as essential personnel. After 4 days in a hospital with no power and limited food (Keesler suffered massive damage to the base and the hospital was heavily damaged), he was allowed to survey the damage to his home. I received the tearful phone call that the house was still standing, but all inside was lost, due to at least 5' foot of water coming in the back door that was pushed open by what he assumed was high wind, due to the deadbolt having broken the door jamb with no exterior damage to it and a huge tree right outside this door having been literally pulled up the roots. I cried with him, thanked God that the three of them were safe, and assured him that everything else was just "stuff" that would be rebuilt and replaced by his insurance company.

The first indication of problems came the next day as he flew his wife and baby home to Texas, as there was no place for them to live. He contacted Allstate through one of the centers they had set up for advanced living expenses. His wife is a school teacher for Gulfport, gets paid once a month on the 1st, and their computer systems were down and checks not direct-deposited. His pay of the 1st had his house payment taken out. Money was non-existent. Allstate informed him that he did not have flood coverage and therefore no ALE.

The adjuster looked at the house on the 20th. He will be paid $500 to remove the tree from his backyard and replace only the section of fence where the tree fell. There was additional small damage to the roof and gutter. As for the interior of the house, his household contents, and the removal of the MASSIVE amount of debris in his front and back yard (a whole roof in his front yard and driveway, a boat in his back yard) will not be covered. This was all flood. The adjuster's suggestion - he qualifies for a SBA loan through FEMA to totally rebuild his house.

My son is not looking to the government to pay his loss. He is looking to Allstate to pay his loss. He relied on information from the "professionals" (his Allstate insurance agent) and was assured not once, but twice, that he was sufficiently covered should a hurricane hit that area. Is this an example of "good hands"?


182 posted on 09/22/2005 10:59:47 AM PDT by caaeller
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To: caaeller
Wells Fargo (the mortgage company) told him he did not need flood coverage as he was not in a flood plain. His Allstate agent told him he did not need flood coverage as he was not in a flood plain.

I'm sorry for your son's loss, but what he is recounting is very standard for a mortgage closing.

If the home IS on a designated flood plain, the mortgage company is likely to require flood insurance or he wouldn't be able to get the mortgage. Outside of that flood plain it isn't required (i.e. you DON'T "need" it).

Same thing here. Our house is all brick and brick homes are particularly vulnerable to minor earthquakes that won't knock the house down, but will play merry he11 with the mortar. I don't live in an area deemed prone to earthquakes so it wasn't required insurance (and I chose not to get it). But it doesn't mean it couldn't happen. It means I considered it an acceptable risk.

Even the statement "you don't need flood coverage" (which I suspect is not exactly what was said) makes it clear that floods ARE covered separately. And it was therefore his option to pay a bundle for the coverage or not. There's no way you can take the statements of a mortgage or insurance company to mean they guarantee your will never get hit by a flood, only that the risk wasn't high enough for the mortgage company to REQUIRE the coverage.

183 posted on 09/23/2005 7:57:27 AM PDT by IMRight
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