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Dad on trial over homosexual book [Parent jailed for objecting to school curriculum]
worldnetdaily.com ^ | September 21, 2005

Posted on 09/22/2005 4:13:25 AM PDT by grundle

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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

That's all very nice, but it has nothing to do with the issue at hand. Namely, 5 year-old children being forcibly indoctrinated into the homosexual agenda against the wishes of thier parents.


61 posted on 09/22/2005 5:45:55 AM PDT by Skooz ("Political Correctness is the handmaiden of terrorism" - Michelle Malkin)
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To: Tax-chick

"The only reason this can go on is that a majority of parents don't know or care what their children are being taught."

This is exactly right. At the end of my daughter's K year the teacher sent home a note for parent conferences. At the conference, the teacher and I had a heart to heart. Only 2 parents requested conferences. 2 parents out of 22 wanted to know what their child did and learned in K. I find it very sad.

I homeschool my kids now.


62 posted on 09/22/2005 5:46:18 AM PDT by bizeemommie
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

Keep the behavior in their home, OUT of the classroom.


63 posted on 09/22/2005 5:48:03 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: wolfcreek

Right. Then they take your house for non-payment of taxes. That's where your Achilles heel lies.


64 posted on 09/22/2005 5:49:23 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: ImpBill; stevio

I wouldn't assume there is one parent objecting. I think the news may be a little more controlled on this.

See this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1480286/posts
Gay Marriage Advocates To Post Names On Internet


65 posted on 09/22/2005 5:50:04 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: grundle
Whatever became of the age of consent?

How about the District attorney filing criminal charges against the members of the school district board for exposing children to pornography?

How about a civil suit against the school board for the same?

The District attorney belongs in jail for criminal negligence of his job...

66 posted on 09/22/2005 5:53:35 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: StonyBurk

We need to actively work to destroy it ourselves.

This abomination will continue to grow until we get some elected representatives in the Federal Government that will take concrete action to destroy the Dept of Education.

We SHOULD have had it already eliminated. But our "Conservative friends" we put into Office, backed out on us and didn't get the job done.


67 posted on 09/22/2005 5:54:25 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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To: An.American.Expatriate
But is it information that a 5 year old needs at that stage of his/her development??

There is no sexual component to the less. This is not sex education. It is simply a matter of saying, this is how human beings form groups with one another.

Seems to me that since kindergarden is exactly the time when children learn to form social relationships, that the information about how adults chose to interact with one another in a non-sexual manner is quite pertinent.

68 posted on 09/22/2005 5:58:21 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (If you want to know the truth, I am lying.)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
In my gnerally libertarian opinion, homosexuals have the right to be homosexuals.

Okay.

But I have the right not to have them shoved at me at every turn of life.

I have the right to teach my child as I see fit and I will teach my child that homosexuality is perverted, wrong, and degrading to the participants and those that must be exposed to it.

I will teach my child to vehemently reject the teachings from anyone, to include an employee of the indoctrination centers that I refuse to send my child into.

(I believe you enablers call them "schools".)

Just like the First Amendment, which most people woefully misunderstand, that, while you assume you have the right to speak as you wish (and I will defend that right, although I do well understand the restrictions plced on that "right"), you, nor any of the homosexual enablers or the homosexuals themselves, have the right to be heard.

Their children have the right to be accepted as "normal" by other children. And not be expected to be ashamed or embarassed.

That is very true.

However, most of society does not accept the perverted, degenerate lifestyle of the homosexual and probably never will. Therefore, I refuse to allow it to be presented in a positive light to my child, simply because a child that has unwittingly been placed in that position might be "embarrassed" if it is not.

Simply keep the issue off the table.

Do we present the fact that some parents sleep in separate bedrooms, some parents fight like cats and dogs, some parents are perpetual drunkards, some parents just ain't parents, so that we may spare the feelings of the children involved?

Homosexuality of parents (a loose term, as I personnally feel that parents are of biological origins) is simply not an issue that needs to be highlighted in the organized educational environment.

But the enablers will not be convinced of that, because they do not want to be convinced of it, therefore, my child will be schooled at home and will be taught that the homosexual lifestyle is perverted, degenerate and repulsive.

Sue me.

69 posted on 09/22/2005 5:59:06 AM PDT by OldSmaj (Hey Islam...I flushed a koran today and I let my dog pp on it first. Come get me, moon bats!)
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To: peyton randolph
Recently signed a note opting my kid out of sex and AIDS education at school. Fourth grade is still too young for this stuff...and I want to control how this information is taught rather than having a pro-homo agenda.

This is what we did when our oldest reached 4 th grade. We were the only parents in her class to do so. I'll never forget the shocked/stunned/sick looks on the children's faces when they came out of school that day. It was proof to me that they teach way too much way too early, and that we'd done the right thing by keeping our child home.

However,it didn't help shield our child very much as the rest of the kids do learn it, and talk about it to your kid anyway.

That was our last year of public schooling.

70 posted on 09/22/2005 6:01:27 AM PDT by Red Boots
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To: Publius6961; grundle

I would like to read the stories about the other families in the book. Are there divorced parents? Are there kids whose mom or dad is in prison for making meth? (don't these kids "deserve" to have his family depicted in books at school?


What percentage of the families have a mommy and a daddy who are married and living together and taking their kids to school?

I'll bet none of the families have Dads wearing yamulkes or clerical collars.


71 posted on 09/22/2005 6:03:18 AM PDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US. http://www.lifeethics.org/www.lifeethics.org/index.html)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
This content of this lesson, appears from the article to merely be teaching children that families with same sex partners exist. I understood neither a positive nor negative value judgement. It is information...

Like pornography, it is not appropriate for those not of consenting age... unless, you are an advocate for NAMBLA?

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And yes, I am also of the opinion that individuals are born homosexual.

A birth defect? Oh, great, another big government disability scam... hardly a libertarian point of view...

72 posted on 09/22/2005 6:04:29 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: wolfcreek

Just itching to have your property placed under lien and sold I see. That'll teach 'em.


73 posted on 09/22/2005 6:04:37 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: OldSmaj
I agree with you wholeheartedly in the declaration of your rights and defend them adamantly.

You have said only one thing with which I disagree:

simply because a child that has unwittingly been placed in that position might be "embarrassed" if it is not

I clearly stated that I agree with the neutral presentation of the different types of families. Two mommies or two daddies is not a lesson in sex education. Nor need it be a value judgement positive or negative. I saw nothing in the article that says it was.

a child faced with a situation in which such an arrangement was condemend would feel more than a bit "embarassed". Embarassment implies shame on the part of the child as if they did something wrong. Condemnation of their families would also result harassment by the other students and that is something inappropriate for an innocent child.

But your opinion is appreciated and your rights respected.

74 posted on 09/22/2005 6:06:20 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (If you want to know the truth, I am lying.)
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To: verity

Please read the article. He refused to leave a scheduled meeting until the Board agreed to allow his son to be excluded from certain classes. There is no legitimate reason for such a meeting not to be public, in this case. Why on earth would the school officials insist that he leave without this agreement? Why on earth would they call the police?

Haven't you heard of civil disobedience?


75 posted on 09/22/2005 6:07:30 AM PDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US. http://www.lifeethics.org/www.lifeethics.org/index.html)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

Do you support 'pay to play'? I'm not asking you if it exists. I'm asking you if you support it.

If I have a group and we have an agenda, do you support my group bribing school districts with monies to have the agenda promoted in to the curriculum to benefit my agenda? AND, if you say, 'well that depends what the agenda is', NO. Because, if it is ok for ONE group, then it is ok for any group.

That is exactly what has happened with this 'diverse family' issue. The schools allowed access to their data by GLSEN and merrily take money to promote their agenda.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1481064/posts
A Policy Analysis of Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender (LGBT) Safer Schools Issues


76 posted on 09/22/2005 6:08:20 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: E Rocc
If the school is not giving him the option of pulling his kids out of these classes, it is they who are in violation of federal law, specifically the Hatch Amendment to the General Education Act of 1984.

Considering that the source is WND, I suspect we are getting only one side of the story.

77 posted on 09/22/2005 6:08:49 AM PDT by malakhi
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To: Calpernia

Groups are allowed to try to get anything they want in public school. It's called petitioning the government and it's guaranteed by the constitution. If you get the votes, you get the program. That's why parents need to homeschool or send their kids to private schools.


78 posted on 09/22/2005 6:10:16 AM PDT by bigsigh
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To: bizeemommie

I've taught my kids at home since the oldest was 4. Those who are fighting with the government school system have my sympathies, but it's just not worth it to me.


79 posted on 09/22/2005 6:10:43 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Start the revolution - I'll bring the tea and muffins!)
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To: hocndoc
"spent a night in jail and was charged with criminal trespassing"

Please read the article.

80 posted on 09/22/2005 6:12:02 AM PDT by verity (Don't let your children grow up to be mainstream media maggots.)
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