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Fiance of Evelyn Miller's mother taken to hospital [apparently cut wrists]
Cedar Rapids Gazette ^ | 09/22/2005 12:33 PM | Associated Press

Posted on 09/22/2005 12:15:56 PM PDT by newgeezer

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To: Keith in Iowa

People have no concept how far the deck is tilted to the police. He can be an innocent person whom the police were squeezing.

A mere suspect is screwed for life. Remember richard jewel?

He may very well be guilty, but if he is innocent and is just responding to police "person of interest" pressure then I hope he turns around and finds a good lawyer to sue the police.

People forget that police solve cases DESPITE their "inteligence level" not because of it.


21 posted on 09/22/2005 1:43:59 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: longtermmemmory
People forget that police solve cases DESPITE their "inteligence level" not because of it.

Some of us cannot forget something we never knew.

Regardless, I like how you misspelled "intelligence." ;O)

22 posted on 09/22/2005 2:14:15 PM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick
Guilty, he's definitely guilty of something

he either knows what happened since he's the only "alledged" parent home with her when she diappeared and was killed OR he did it.

I also wonder if the mother is in on a cover up, if her alibi is tight for the time frame the child was murdered.

23 posted on 09/22/2005 2:46:36 PM PDT by SunnyUsa (No man really becomes a fool until he stops asking questions.)
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To: newgeezer
A neighbor at the complex has said she was asked to keep the hard drive by Evelyn's mother after the girl disappeared.
The neighbor, Tanya Martinez, told sheriff's deputies that Miller "freaked out" when she learned the hard drive had been turned over to authorities in August, a police report says.

I can't wait to find out what was on their hard drive that freaked the "MOM" out - after your child is murdered, why would anything freak you out after that?

24 posted on 09/22/2005 2:50:27 PM PDT by SunnyUsa (No man really becomes a fool until he stops asking questions.)
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To: longtermmemmory
He can be an innocent person whom the police were squeezing.

How much do you know about the "story" they told and the night the 5 yr old disappeared under Fredricksen's watch?

25 posted on 09/22/2005 2:52:04 PM PDT by SunnyUsa (No man really becomes a fool until he stops asking questions.)
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To: lady lawyer
The most dangerous place was with the mother and the live-in.
Children were 33 times more likely to be victimized in that situation than those living with their married parents.

It's always the mother's boyfriend it seems who kills the kid that wasn't his.

It's sickening, and the innocent children suffer.

26 posted on 09/22/2005 2:54:54 PM PDT by SunnyUsa (No man really becomes a fool until he stops asking questions.)
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To: stinkerpot65

Looks like the mom's boyfriend has some problems ping!


27 posted on 09/22/2005 2:57:59 PM PDT by SunnyUsa (No man really becomes a fool until he stops asking questions.)
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To: SunnyUsa
I can't wait to find out what was on their hard drive that freaked the "MOM" out - after your child is murdered, why would anything freak you out after that?

According to an earlier story, the hard drive contained four-years' worth of the family's digital pictures. So, maybe because of their previous experiences with the DHS and law enforcement, they hid the hard drive to keep it safe. Maybe they worried that, if the police get possession of it, that could very well be the last they'll ever see of the undamaged hard drive and/or the precious photographs it contains.

That's pretty much the only innocent explanation I can come up with. Of course, thinking of not-so-innocent explanations is a lot easier.

28 posted on 09/22/2005 3:03:35 PM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: newgeezer
the hard drive contained four-years' worth of the family's digital pictures. So, maybe because of their previous experiences with the DHS and law enforcement, they hid the hard drive to keep it safe. Maybe they worried that, if the police get possession of it, that could very well be the last they'll ever see of the undamaged hard drive and/or the precious photographs it contains.

This makes no sense to me because if all her pictures of her precious child were on a "hard drive" you would think she would down load them on to a disc, print them etc.

That would be an innocent person's instinct.

Something's really not right about these people - from the obvious to what we dont' know.

29 posted on 09/22/2005 3:34:29 PM PDT by SunnyUsa (No man really becomes a fool until he stops asking questions.)
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To: SunnyUsa
This makes no sense to me because if all her pictures of her precious child were on a "hard drive" you would think she would down load them on to a disc,

Even assuming they had the CD burner and CDs, four years' worth could potentially take a long time to burn to disc.

print them etc.

That would take even more time, and I'd bet any prints they would get from their own printer would be well short of keepsake quality.

Time is in very short supply when a murder investigation is cranking up.

Again, it's the only good excuse I can come up with for their being 'freaked-out' about the cops conficating their hard drive. I have no idea whether it's the actual reason.

30 posted on 09/23/2005 7:53:11 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: Tax-chick
Of course that doesn't mean that every man living with a woman to whom he's not married hurts her children! The majority do not.

Perhaps not physically, but what about emotionally, developmentally, and morally?

31 posted on 09/23/2005 10:17:46 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: iowamark

I would say that's the result of the situation (which is ultimately the mother's responsibility) rather than anything the man does.


32 posted on 09/23/2005 12:01:18 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Start the revolution - I'll bring the tea and muffins!)
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To: newgeezer

I too am puzzled as to why they would hide the hard-drive. I am however much more puzzled by the total lack of suspects!! Casey has returned home without being charged with anything, again being able to skip town whenever the mood may hit. Randy Patrie has also resumed life, going to work each day etc. The lack of information on this issue is scarey!!!


33 posted on 09/26/2005 11:39:00 AM PDT by ccwoman (Will it ever be solved)
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To: ccwoman; memories_of_evelyn
By the way, in case you (or others) would be interested and didn't already see it, Floyd County Attorney Marilyn Dettmer was the subject of last night's "News Maker" feature on KCRG-TV in Cedar Rapids.
34 posted on 09/26/2005 12:17:21 PM PDT by newgeezer
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To: dmz

Cohabitation greatly increases the risk of child abuse, whether the biological parents are cohabiting or the mother is cohabiting with a boyfriend. Both conditions rank very high on the risk scale, but the environment in which a child lives with the mother's cohabiting boyfriend is by far the worst.

The study Broken Homes and Battered Children by Robert Whelan [Family Education Trust, 1993] found that the incidence of child abuse is 20 times higher for children living with their cohabiting parents and 33 times higher among children living with their mother and her boyfriend compared to children living with their biological, married parents. Similar risks apply in cases of fatal child abuse. The overwhelming number of child deaths occurred in households in which the child's biological mother was cohabiting with someone who was unrelated to the child.

The study, The Child Abuse Crisis: The Disintegration of Marriage, Family and the American Community, [Heritage Foundation, 1997] restates the risk of child abuse being 20 times higher than in traditional married families if parents are cohabiting (as in "common law" marriages) and 33 times higher if the single mother is cohabiting with a boyfriend. This research suggests that cohabitation is a much greater risk factor for domestic violence than marriage because relationship ties tend to be weaker within cohabitation compared with marriage.


35 posted on 09/26/2005 12:29:30 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

Thanks for the info. It's appreciated.


36 posted on 09/26/2005 12:49:42 PM PDT by dmz
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To: lady lawyer
The most dangerous place for children is with their mother and her live-in.

You can say that again. These kinds of incidents ALMOST ALWAYS involve a live-in boyfriend. RARELY will you see this with a MARRIED mom and dad.

37 posted on 09/26/2005 12:55:33 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: newgeezer

As usual, "fiance" = pervert pedophile shacking up with dumb white chick on welfare.


38 posted on 09/26/2005 12:59:03 PM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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Palladin
In my mother-in-law case:
Husband of 30 years = perverted unemployed pedophile who raped all his children plus many other while his wife worked
39 posted on 09/27/2005 10:49:05 AM PDT by ccwoman (Will it ever be solved)
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To: ccwoman

That's awful. Did he ever go to jail?


40 posted on 09/28/2005 1:52:49 PM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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