UNFIT FOR THE PRIESTHOOD:

http://andrewsullivan.com/ ^

[frogjerk]

This is a picture of Father Mychal Judge, the pastor for New York City's fire-fighters, an openly gay priest who died with those he served in the ashes of the World Trade Center. According to the new Pope, he should never have been ordained.

[frogjerk]

What does Andrew Sullivan mean by openly gay?

[peyton randolph]

Sullivan refuses to see the correlation between homosexual priests and pedophile priests.

[milford421]

Yes, what exactly is an "openly gay" priest according to Sullivan?

[frogjerk]

My question is: Was Father Mychal Judge celibate?

[berkley]

most of the priests involved in the scandals were homosexual--not pedophiles. They molested teenage boys--not children.

[netmilsmom]

God Bless this man. It was a dirty pity that he died so tragically.
He still shouldn't have been a priest if openly gay means that he was leading a gay lifestyle.

[Grut]

What does it matter what celibate priests don't do, so long as they don't do it?

[frogjerk]

most of the priests involved in the scandals were homosexual--not pedophiles. They molested teenage boys--not children.

You are correct but why would something like facts get in the way of the Gay Lobby?

[Pyro7480]

The term "pedophile" should have never been used in regards to this scandal. Most of the victims were already going through puberty. It was pederasty.

[AnAmericanMother]

Moreover, after this priest died there were a number of people who stepped forward to say that he was NOT a homosexual and that the homosexual movement had hijacked his death for their own purposes.

Looks like more of the same from Sullivan, who has only one thing on his mind.

[mlc9852]

Well, that makes me feel better!

[wideawake]

What does Andrew Sullivan mean by openly gay?

That's easy!

If a homosexual activist who never met you in his life gives an interview to a liberal paper during your funeral claiming that you were also a homosexual, then you're "openly gay"!

I'll bet you thought that a person had to actually proclaim in public that he is a homosexual in order to be "openly gay", but it's not that way anymore.

[Grammy]

If a priest openly steals from the offering plate, and then celebrates this behavior, is he worthy to be a priest? Openly sinning and celebrating such is the disqualifier.

[manwiththehands]

I don't care. The pope does not want gay priests. Neither do I. If someone wants to be an openly gay clergy member they are always free to pick another religion. Father Mychal Judge died on 9/11 - along with 3000 others. The fact that he was gay is irrelevant, and Andrew Sullivan is pandering.

[sinkspur]

Prior to Father Mike's death, everyone who knew him for any length of time would never describe him as a homosexual. In fact, never has even one homosexual activist ever provided evidence that Father Mike was “gay.” Yet, in newspapers immediately after the funeral mass, Brendan Fay was quoted saying that Father Mike was a homosexual. Fay arranged a media event where many people spoke of Father Mike's concern for the homosexual community and claimed Father Mike was “gay.” This was news to me, and I knew Father Mike for nearly a decade.

Father Mychal Judge was NOT "gay".

[netmilsmom]

>>What does it matter what celibate priests don't do, so long as they don't do it?<<

Because if they are supporting a gay lifestyle, they are encouraging people to sin. Personal sex or not.

[Pyro7480]

Was it conclusively proven that Fr. Judge was gay?

[Rodney King]

Sullivan refuses to see the correlation between homosexual priests and pedophile priests.

If you go to his site today and read down a bit, Sullivan does in fact support extra restrictions/monitoring of homosexual semarians and priests. But he thinks that that a celibate homosexual should not be denied.

[OldFriend]

You are sounding too logical. Duck and cover.

[frogjerk]

Because if they are supporting a gay lifestyle, they are encouraging people to sin. Personal sex or not.

Which is in itself a grave and moral sin.