Posted on 09/22/2005 2:42:37 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Every one of my contacts with the USCG have been positive. OTOH, I've run accross some Everglades National Park Rangers who were both rude and ignorant. Not exactly jack boots, but just not very nice. I don't think they were that way 30 years ago.
Touche'
I never said it was inexpensive. (although I do have a fondness for the "naked" part)
I think we set a record with this thread! !
These people said yes to searches. If they say no, the CG can get a warrant, then board. I can just imagine the tone the CG was greeted with by these people. I agree, 10:30pm is very late- I would have been upset too. But the CG isn't out there because they had nothing better to do. How do we know they didn't have a tip that something might happen that night?
And, how about applying the 4th Amendment to everyone else so they can be safe and secure? The war on terrorism must not be predictable nor complacent.
Ranger Randy has acquired machine guns - now he is a member of the Armed and Rangerous.
You might like the latest issue of eco-logic, found at freedom.org. Look for an article called The Morning After The night Before. It is about one of the Armed & Rangerous.
http://www.eco.freedom.org/el/20050902/jacobson.shtml
I suggest you take that up with Alexander Hamilton the next time you see him.
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and
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and
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That would signify that they are still alive. lol
There is a difference between a house and a boat- one can't move around. A warrant makes sense.....for a house that doesn't float into our country in the middle of the night. Do you really think that the CG should call back to a judge just to board a boat for a five minute inspection? Should they get warrants for every boat, or just not the whiners' boats?
Indeed. These guys have a right to be upset if they want, but they sound like smartass snots to me.
You obviously have a problem with authority. Coast Guard members don't ransack property. This wasn't even mentioned in the goofy article/story. Are warrants required? Why are you so upset about our CG doing what it is supposeed to do? Would you have been upset if the CG found a hidden compartment full of smuggled humans destined for the slave trade? They rescued over 9,000 people since last October alone! And, how about drugs? They intercepted more than 150,000 pound of cocaine on the Pacific side alone. Yes, that was pounds.
Here are some statistics for you to digest before you lose your composure again:
http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/iccs/iccsiv.html
And:
http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-o/g-opl/AMIO/FlowStats/USCG.htm
The second link is straight to the USCG for statistics on smuggling people.
Here is a link to the drug statistics: http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-o/g-opl/Drugs/Statswww.htm
Enjoy the reading and let me know if you need more information to help you form your thoughts a little more clearly.
I normally agree with property rights, but boats aren't like my home- they serve recreational and transportation needs only. Simply choosing to live on a boat doesn't change that.
Tonk,
It looks like a great start. When you have updates, let us know.
So, here we are again....another silly comment you've made. Shall the judges be armed and guard our borders? Is that the job you think they should have? Or, do you think we should leave it to the grown-ups?
Get real.
Every family is subject to be searched. Why the suggestion that military families are left alone? Come on! I doubt these people had loaded machine guns aimed at them. I have been stopped while driving to work in rush hour traffic ----IN UNIFORM!! So, that deflates your theory that military members or their families aren't prone to be harrassed. How sensitive should they be? See the link to the CG statistics on how many pounds of drugs and smuggled people they find every year. Here are the links again, in case you missed that one: http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-o/g-opl/Drugs/Statswww.htm and http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-o/g-opl/AMIO/FlowStats/USCG.htm
Thank you for the kind words and faith in our service members. There is quite a bit of negativity towards the people protecting our borders in this thread. I thought I mistakenly ended up at a left-wing forum....
Good to know there are more like me out there.......
I resent the "jackboot" reference- these are AMERICANS not Germans. Who will you expect to guard the coasts? Anyone? Do you think it's even necessary?
Granted, if the search was "payback", there needs to be UCMJ action taken against those guilty servicemen. If not, which I suspect, the owners of the boats should be thankful the CG weren't sleeping when they were. The first group they'd blame if anything happened to them while they were out there would be the CG. I hope they never get stranded and have to eat a little crow when the CG shows up and are respectful and courteous- like they should be.
Calling a late night search for contraband a safety inspection is uncalled for. Call it what it is.
Or looking down on us.
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