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Adultery Is Killing the American Family
Illinois Leader ^ | 9/22/05 | Nathan Tabor

Posted on 09/22/2005 5:48:16 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: wagglebee
according to a Time-CNN poll, 50 percent say that President Bill Clinton's morals are "about the same as the average married man."

If this were the case, I'd have absolutely no interest of ever marrying. The very thought of adultery makes me want to vomit.

But considering the source (Time-CNN), and the readers who answered the poll, these results do not surprise me.

21 posted on 09/22/2005 6:03:52 PM PDT by kstewskis ("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big".....Jerry Fletcher)
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To: wagglebee
Time-CNN poll, 50 percent say that President Bill Clinton's morals are "about the same as the average married man."
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People are astoundingly stupid. Married men are rapists, huh? They use law enforcement officials to lure a young employee into a room, drop trow, ask for a sexual act, and then play with themselves in front of her when she doesn't comply. They use law enforcement personnel to facilitate sexual encounters with hundreds of women. They use their position in the workplace to create an atmosphere where, if someone complies, she gets top secret clearance at the Pentagon and gets to play hide the cigar. Yeah, that's your average married guy.

23 posted on 09/22/2005 6:04:06 PM PDT by doug from upland (Doug from Upland - FR troublemaker since 5/97)
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To: wagglebee

That's why we have parents. As a parent, I expect my children to conduct themselves according to our family's morals, not anyone elses. I don't care what Bill Clinton, or Madonna, or Brad Pitt does with their life. Our family is better than that.


24 posted on 09/22/2005 6:04:24 PM PDT by Trust but Verify (( ))
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To: vetvetdoug
I have definite convictions about adultery; the spouse that commits adultery should be executed. Period.

Thankfully Jesus Christ, who is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords, didn't take that tact with the woman taken in adultery.


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They're going fast!

25 posted on 09/22/2005 6:04:42 PM PDT by rdb3 (NON-conservative, American exceptionalist here.)
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To: wagglebee

I think it goes deeper to the core of all human behaviors. There was a time when a person's word was his bond. Where you kept promises, stayed loyal, remained true. Not just in marriage, but in everything you did.

If people behave badly in everything they do, then marriage will suffer likewise.


26 posted on 09/22/2005 6:06:14 PM PDT by najida (Once upon a a very long time ago, in a land far, far away.....It was still all Bush's fault.)
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To: wagglebee

It's AL GORE's fault for inventing the Internet. But will the MSM hold him to account? What do you think?


27 posted on 09/22/2005 6:06:31 PM PDT by Cautor
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To: Melas; vetvetdoug
The answer wouldn't yeild the results you're looking for. Like I tell my kids, an overreaction ALWAYS makes things worse, always.

Extremest should be shot. ;o)
28 posted on 09/22/2005 6:08:38 PM PDT by Jaysun (Democrats: We must become more effective at fooling people.)
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To: Dark Skies

"The way Jesus defined adultery (a matter of the heart and imagination), we are all adulterers...except for that dull few."

Ahem, even the dull--remember Jimmy Carter sinning in his heart? And is he ever the dullard.


29 posted on 09/22/2005 6:09:43 PM PDT by Cautor
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To: DTogo

Happy?


30 posted on 09/22/2005 6:09:56 PM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (Anyone want to be on my Civil Engineers ping list? Infrequent pings only to relevant stuff.)
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To: Jaysun

Lol.


31 posted on 09/22/2005 6:09:59 PM PDT by Melas (The dumber the troll, the longer the thread)
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To: vetvetdoug

I think that's really overstating the punishment. If someone has a cheating spouse, it's up to them to leave them or to stay and try and make it work (that is, if the other party wants to make it work).

Any kind of criminal punishment for that, or execution as you suggest (I hope jokingly) is more in line with our Islamic friends way of handling this matter. It's not a good way to go.


32 posted on 09/22/2005 6:10:34 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: TonyRo76

Not necessarily. I was widowed a few years ago, and I met lady who had been widowed about the same time. We eventually married. We both had children and assets. In order to insure that our children received their just inheritances, we had a prenup that delineated which children got what assets.


33 posted on 09/22/2005 6:10:58 PM PDT by Ax (One can never be too rich, too thin or have too many camouflage T-shirts)
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To: wagglebee

Call me old fashioned, but when I stand up before God and a church full of witnesses and give my sacred word of honor, I keep it.
To do anything else would be dishonorable.

Yeah, I've had my chances- temptation comes wrapped in the prettiest packages- but even such a prize won't buy my honor.
It is soooo easy to cross that line. Every natural instinct says it's right, natural and a matter of life and death (or maybe more important than that.)
If I were weak willed and without honor, I don't think I could have resisted.


34 posted on 09/22/2005 6:11:28 PM PDT by Ostlandr (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Publius Valerius
Yeah, no one had affairs before tv and the Internet. Please.

I think you missed the point. We live in a sex-addicted culture. Sure, men and women had affairs before Internet porn and chat rooms, but the Internet has made illicit fantasy so much easier. The Internet has taken porn out of the seedy sex shops and brought it directly into the home. Affairs begin in the mind. I'm no expert but I could understand how after a while the fantasy would get boring and men and women would want to start looking for the real thing.

35 posted on 09/22/2005 6:11:31 PM PDT by manwiththehands
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To: wagglebee
"50 percent say that President Bill Clinton's morals are "about the same as the average married man.""

Not the ones I am involved with. Bill Clinton, moraly average? Ha.

36 posted on 09/22/2005 6:13:31 PM PDT by Dust in the Wind
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To: Jaysun

It's selective and self reflexive, I think. The stigma is there, but it's not uniform. A lot of women, for example, would rip into a cheating husband of their friend, or a cheating male friend of their husband.

At the same time, they might be more sympathetic to one of their female friends who is banging a hunky guy on the side.

On an even kookier quirk, a single woman might find the type of man who cheats as agressive and sexy.

A man might rip into a cheating wife of one of his buddies, but not be nearly as judgmental to one of his male friends having a fling with a sexy girl.


37 posted on 09/22/2005 6:14:45 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: najida
There was a time when a person's word was his bond.

People are no more or no less virtuous today as then.

We've always had liars, cheats, thieves, drunkards, murderers, adulterers, etc. and always will. We just tend to idealize times past.

38 posted on 09/22/2005 6:14:52 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (Liberalism is an ill fated luxury that we cannot afford at this time; it does not work in a crisis.)
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To: wagglebee; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; ...
Thy shall not commit adultery

Till death do us part.

All we have to do is follow God's plan, He knows what's best for us and our families.
39 posted on 09/22/2005 6:15:11 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Jaysun

"Having an affair simply doesn't carry the social stigma that it once did."

"Therein lies the problem. The left works hard to end the shame associated with any number of issues for that very reason. I say we should embrace disgrace!"

Agree. Recall: Only a generation or two ago, it was OUTRAGEOUS for a woman to have a child out of wedlock--she was shamed, her child was a bastard. Barely 25 years later... being a "single mom" is now a lifestyle choice. All because the Left has relentlessly defined morality down.


40 posted on 09/22/2005 6:16:37 PM PDT by John Robertson (Safe Travel)
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