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1 posted on 09/22/2005 7:23:54 PM PDT by Crackingham
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To: Crackingham

Climate loony yank here. It's all the fault of the evil, possessed SUVs! The vengeful god Yukon Denali demands $75 to fill his coffers (that's about 40 pounds for you loony limeys).


2 posted on 09/22/2005 7:26:50 PM PDT by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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I'd liken them to the people who denied that smoking causes lung cancer.

Well, except that smoking does cause cancer.

3 posted on 09/22/2005 7:28:06 PM PDT by eyespysomething ("The Constitution is the court's taskmaster and it's Congress' taskmaster as well" John G. Roberts)
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We haven't had a North Sea storm wipe out The Netherlands in a half a century....must be something we're screwing up?


4 posted on 09/22/2005 7:28:21 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (© 2005, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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Sir John Lawton, chairman of the Royal Commission on Environmental Pollution

Gee, no built-in bias there.

5 posted on 09/22/2005 7:33:11 PM PDT by Sthitch
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Dr. Max Mayfield and Dr. William Gray say this increase in hurricanes has nothing to do with global warming. So am I to believe them or this Lawton fellow? I think I'll stick with the former.


6 posted on 09/22/2005 7:36:07 PM PDT by David1
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Every single time I hear such it brings to mind the Azimov story Nightfall. Though the short story deals with a longer timespan it is about folks responding irrationally to something they have not seen before in their lifetimes. Global warming for most of its adherents is religion rather than science. Michael Crighton spoke on this topic recently. Perhaps somebody with a source can post that speech.
7 posted on 09/22/2005 7:36:56 PM PDT by jimfree (Freep and Ye shall find.)
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I think these hurricanes are due to the British not brushing their teeth. Prove me wrong.


8 posted on 09/22/2005 7:37:57 PM PDT by gore_sux (and so does Xlinton)
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06 January 2005
03/05



New Year Honours
We are delighted to extend hearty congratulations to three NERC staff who have been chosen for awards in the Queen’s New Year Honours list.

NERC’s Chief Executive, Professor Sir John Lawton, CBE, FRS, has been awarded a Knighthood for his contribution to ecological science.

Sir John began his career by studying zoology at the University of Durham, completing his PhD in 1969. Since then he has held several university posts and has served on a wide range of committees and bodies. In 1989 he founded, and was appointed Director of, the NERC Centre for Population Biology at Imperial College, Silwood Park, where he remained until 1999. He took up his present post as Chief Executive of NERC in October 1999, but retains his Professorship in an honorary capacity at Imperial College of Science, Technology and Medicine.

His scientific interests are wide, but have focused on the population dynamics and biodiversity of birds and insects, with emphasis over the last decade on the impacts of global environmental change on wild plants and animals. He has published over 320 scientific papers, and written or edited five books.

Sir John says, “I’m completely taken aback, but also delighted to be honoured in this way.”



9 posted on 09/22/2005 7:38:42 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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http://capmag.com/article.asp?ID=4403

Interview with Dr. William Gray that refutes this guy.


10 posted on 09/22/2005 7:41:27 PM PDT by David1
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Loonies? It takes one to know one, as we used to say in my younger years.


11 posted on 09/22/2005 7:42:07 PM PDT by John Valentine
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Hurricane experts, meteorologists, and climatologists agree that only 10% of the strength of a hurricane is directly related to oceanic temperature.

If, IF, the recent upswing in hurricane intensity is caused by "global" warming, then why isn't it a "global" problem? No increased ferocity of storms reported in the other oceans around the world.

12 posted on 09/22/2005 7:42:20 PM PDT by infidel29 ("We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." --Benjamin Franklin)
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More to read by Dr. Gray on Hurricanes and Global Warming:
http://hurricane.atmos.colostate.edu/forecasts/2005/april2005/


15 posted on 09/22/2005 7:47:27 PM PDT by David1
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Elementary math:

2% of the CO2 released into the atmosphere each year comes from human [industrial] activity.

If the industrialized nations, including the US (but not China - ain't no way they're doing it)cut CO2 output by 20% (a fantastically unrealistic goal) we might end up with a world wide reduction of 10% or less, under a best case scenario.

10% of 2% = .2% . Think about it. 2/10's of 1%!

If human "activity" is actually causing measurable climate change, we need to start having fun, because we are truly SOL.

PS-When I presented this math to a very scientifically educated lib I know, his response was "well, anything is better than nothing". Proving once again, that none of this is about climate.
16 posted on 09/22/2005 7:48:05 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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All I have to say is this: When you British or American Chicken Littles can tell me whether to bring an umbrella to the Masters in Augusta on Thursday sooner than the Sunday before, maybe I'll start buying your lemonade. Until then, shut up. You can't predict the weather sooner than 10 days. What makes you think you can tell me what the weather will be like in two or three years or ten. Please just admit that you guys are guessing and leave the rest of us alone!


18 posted on 09/22/2005 7:53:48 PM PDT by LumberHack
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There is warming of the globe, but gov't funded scientists fail to see that the warming comes from Central China, Saudi Arabia, and North Africa. If these deserts had been as irrigated as Israel or Arizona, we wouldn't have half the storms we deal with every year. Good luck trying to work the land in these parched nations starving for Christ.

"Global Warming" is a product of denying stewardship of what should always have been healthy agrarian economies.

"Global Warming" is nothing short of a direct attack on the Americas that's centuries in the making by forces not perceived with human eyes. Look at who rules such lands that heat the air Eastward of Bermuda all the way to the coast of China and you'll find your reason for "Global Warming".

Nations free of Communism and fanatical Islam won't dismantle industry for an unsound theory on weather patterns. Heck, we're more likely to build irrigation corporations for such deserts, and China would certainly be all for it just as Wall Street would get rich off of its IPOs. Europeans were ecstatic to cut a path from the Mediterranean to the Red Sea just to water their Far East trade. Investors now will be happy to fund irrigation and overseas agrarian economies.
20 posted on 09/22/2005 7:54:50 PM PDT by SaltyJoe ("Social Justice" begins with the unborn child.)
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"The increased intensity ..."

How does he know? Prior to the 1950's, we didn't even name storms and because of the lack of sophisticated satelites, hurricane hunter aircraft, and recording bouys, we lacked the ability to track and measure storms until they made landfall and even then, the records and blogs were unreliable by today's standards.

22 posted on 09/22/2005 7:56:45 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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They want us to live in caves.


24 posted on 09/22/2005 8:00:26 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Troubled by NOLA looting ? You ain't seen nothing yet.)
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Dubious. But there was a report from a German research center that indicated there has been increased solar activity over the years. Now that would make the Earth warm.


26 posted on 09/22/2005 8:09:26 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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Storm frenzy is not an anomaly, but a phase

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Now climatologists say frenzied hurricane seasons will be a fact of life for the next 10 to 20 years, part of a lengthy cycle of stormy eras followed by calmer ones.

The engine driving these cycles is called the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation, or AMO. Scientists say it has triggered drought in the western United States while spawning hurricanes in the Atlantic.

At a time when some are theorizing that global warming may be the reason for more intense hurricane seasons, climatologists say the AMO is the real culprit.

27 posted on 09/22/2005 8:10:13 PM PDT by knuthom
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WE'RE ALL DOOMED!!!!!!!!!!!
31 posted on 09/22/2005 8:19:04 PM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth-Estate is a Fifth-Column!)
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