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The Matter with Kansas Can Be Understood at Woolworth's
Tech Central Station ^ | 9/23/05 | Lee Harris

Posted on 09/23/2005 7:37:16 AM PDT by Valin

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1 posted on 09/23/2005 7:37:17 AM PDT by Valin
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To: Tolik

ping


2 posted on 09/23/2005 7:38:03 AM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: Valin

Good article - thanks for posting.


3 posted on 09/23/2005 7:40:21 AM PDT by GianniV
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To: Valin

the premise that the democrat party is the party of the common man, the poor and downtrodden is patently false.

the democrat party wants to keep the poor man down so that they depend upon the charity of the democrat party. kinds like keeping them slaves on the plantation.

it's the republicans who want to get governmnet out of the lives of people so those people can rise above their current situation and propser - whatever their color.


4 posted on 09/23/2005 7:42:41 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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To: Valin

What a great essay. I've said this for years, that one of America's great freedoms is the freedom to believe you can be rich someday. Why else do so many people go to casinos and play lotteries? Everyone has a shot at the gold in America. Each generation produces its own rags-to-riches stories that add to the legend of America and to the belief of every American that it might be them, or someone they know. Only a few nutty socialists really want this to go away.


5 posted on 09/23/2005 7:45:16 AM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (2,4,6,8 - a burka makes me look overweight!)
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To: camle

the democrat party wants to keep the poor man down so that they depend upon the charity of the democrat party. kinds like keeping them slaves on the plantation.


I think that's the point of the piece.


6 posted on 09/23/2005 7:53:38 AM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: Valin

yes, and i was echoing it. it needs to be repeated early and often - kinda like how democrats vote.

which is why they oppose voter ID's and/or inked fingers.


7 posted on 09/23/2005 7:56:07 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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To: Valin

Good article, on second hand, great article!

BTTT


8 posted on 09/23/2005 8:04:42 AM PDT by A message (The Democrat party platform is NOT in the mainstream. It is just foolish.)
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To: Valin
>>>>>Perhaps one day the critics of Middle America will begin to recognize the humanity they share with people they so quickly label as culturally backwards. Perhaps one day they might even begin to listen to them, and to learn from them,

Yeah, and one day s--t will stick to the moon. The liberal sneerocracy would never deign to breathe the same air as the rest of us.
9 posted on 09/23/2005 8:05:11 AM PDT by .cnI redruM ("They're thin and they were riding bicycles" - Ted Turner on NK malnutrition.)
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To: camle

"The democrats are the party of the little guy"...one of my hot button statements. I've been known to raise my voice to complete strangers when I hear that.


10 posted on 09/23/2005 8:05:58 AM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: Valin
They did not ask others to give up a right that they would not give up themselves, if they were ever in the position to exercise it. Why? Because they would have regarded it as sheer hypocrisy to prevent people from doing what they knew damn well that they would do themselves, if they were ever given the chance.

Exactly. This pinpoints nicely just what you have to LACK to be a liberal democrat: the ethical sense not to condemn the rich for doing what any rational person would do if rich.

11 posted on 09/23/2005 8:06:47 AM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: camle

As I tell my Lib friends, we all want the same things. We want to eradicate poverty. We want people to be prosperous, happy and secure. We want people to be free.

We just disagree on how to achieve those things.


12 posted on 09/23/2005 8:08:28 AM PDT by gridlock (IF YOU'RE NOT CATCHING FLAK, YOU'RE NOT OVER THE TARGET...)
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To: Valin

We're Right in the Middle.


13 posted on 09/23/2005 8:09:00 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle (Free Speech is a Right. Being Wrong is Just...Wrong.)
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To: Valin
'What's the Matter With Kansas?' is a stupid book idea on its face. It starts from the premise that places like San Fransicko are normal.

Here is a book that is clearly thought out and better written:

This book is also about to be the number one bestseller at Amazon.com.

14 posted on 09/23/2005 8:16:02 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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How else do you explain why people who don't make a lot of money vote Republican, instead of voting Democratic? The Democratic Party,

Yeah, like I'm going to sell out my values and beliefs so I can get an extra few dollars off the backs of my fellow citizens.

What the dems don't get is what they offer -- ( our own) dollars in exchange for "all we value" - isn't worth the trade.

What's the bribe for having me agree that killing a baby the day before it's born is OK? How much will they give me so I'll hate the military that protects me?

Creepy dems are so use to buying votes - like they do with the dependent poor. Their dream is to get us all feeding at the trough. And the price? What would it cost? Would they force shopping at high priced boutique stores where I have to pay through the nose, rather than Walmart? Yes they would. They're control freaks and they have their "pets" and I'm not one of them. They would control wages and time off and what I pay. And I suspect their Union buddies would make out well -- and that I wouldn't.

And I'd love to give up my home so their little envirowachos can have a beautiful place to backpack.

Yeah, I'm ready to give up all my values, beliefs and dreams so they can "pay me off" ... right around the time hell freezes over. I read the book -- it was silly, campus intellectual crap of the 1970s. These guys don't have a clue.

15 posted on 09/23/2005 8:29:30 AM PDT by GOPJ (When incentives are switched, patterns change. Until then, it's same old, same old.)
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To: Lancey Howard

What IS the matter with KS? They always elect conservatives to represent them in DC but they have a liberal Democrat governor and a GOP controlled legislature that doesn't sound very conservative, based on what I read.


16 posted on 09/23/2005 8:31:12 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: Valin
I'd rewite this line:Perhaps one day the critics of Middle America will begin to recognize the humanity they share with people they so quickly label as culturally backwards. Perhaps one day they might even begin to listen to them, and to learn from them, the way I did so many years ago, while eavesdropping on the waitresses at Woolworth's.

The cultural elite are far from sharing this humanity with the people they so quickly label as culturally backward, they are so far from the self-honestly required to have that humanity that they don't even understand it, let alone share it.

17 posted on 09/23/2005 8:57:50 AM PDT by Red Boots
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The waitresses at Woolworth's disliked McGovern's welfare state politics because it was threatening to take away one of life's most important imaginary pleasures -- that of imagining yourself rich.

Yeah, and as long as the dems think the problem is we all imagine we can be rich someday, they'll lose forever.

The guy who wrote this still doesn't "get" it. He comes across as a brain-dead liberal college kid of the 1970s who is older but no wiser and still looks down on the working class. The "other". A working class which he imagines to be similar to sweet, young, but stupid waitresses. Doesn't have a clue. Really, no clue. None, nada, zip.

The writer of this piece might as well be a liberal if this is all the insight he can muster.

18 posted on 09/23/2005 9:07:53 AM PDT by GOPJ (When incentives are switched, patterns change. Until then, it's same old, same old.)
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To: Red Boots
BINGO:

...they are so far from the self-honestly required to have that humanity that they don't even understand it, let alone share it.

19 posted on 09/23/2005 9:09:02 AM PDT by GOPJ (When incentives are switched, patterns change. Until then, it's same old, same old.)
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To: Valin
McGovern wanted greater economic equality for Americans, and one of the tools by which he hoped to achieve this goal was by setting a limit on how much people could leave to their children.

Never works...

20 posted on 09/23/2005 2:31:53 PM PDT by GOPJ (When incentives are switched, patterns change. Until then, it's same old, same old.)
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