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To: PeteB570
"Talk on the key board is cheap. When a disaster strikes your community some bone head in Law Enforcement may make a "grab all guns" decision. You sit on your porch and when LEOs turn the corner you're going to have a shootout with them? They kill you, take all the guns in the house and now your family gets to face the looters without you and without any protection?"

You also make unwise assumptions. Darn few people are going to start a gunfight with cops who just turned the corner. Cops (or anyone else) who start breaking into my house are another matter. There WILL be a gunfight. Not only that, there aren't that many cops in ANY town or city, compared to the population of the town or city. The very first time they run into armed resistance, they're going to get the clue that this is not a good idea. My neighborhood, they might succeed in taking my guns, but they wouldn't make it out of the neighborhood.

I don't know about your town or city, but in mine, I'm on a first-name basis with some of the cops, and I don't think we have any who would obey such an order in the first place, since it is quite illegal. They need to think about what will happen after the disaster, too, you know? So does the mayor and the governor, for that matter. I can guarantee that in this state (Oklahoma) a public official who made such a statement would be suddenly unemployed.

Also, mind you, I'm retired military, and strongly of the law-and-order bent, but that include resistance to tyranny, too. If there aren't quite a few civil lawsuits against the people who ordered the confiscations, I'd be seriously surprised. I'd also be seriously surprised if the rest of the public officials don't get the message loud and clear. I'm not particularly rich, but I'd also find some spare change to donate to the legal defense fund of anyone who successfully resisted such a gun-grab, too.
61 posted on 09/24/2005 6:48:31 AM PDT by Old Student (WRM, MSgt, USAF(Ret.))
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To: Old Student; PeteB570
The whole thing is so situational that it's hard to make any blanket statements about what one would do when faced with the whole unconstitutional confiscation nightmare.

I'd likely not give up my life resisting such an order, since I do have a wife and kiddies, and I would be loathe to endanger them by offering violent resistance.

I would think it wiser in my case to comply with as little assistance coming from me as possible, and I certainly would not be adverse to giving Clintonian answers to any questions. I would certainly try to get names, request to see a warrant, record what I could and get receipts for anything taken. There is a pretty good chance that my initial response would include presenting them with paperwork that showed all or some of my weapons had been transfered to a deceased relative. If they happened to miss some weapons that had been creatively stored, I would not inform them of that fact.

I think history shows that there is a greater chance that an illegal confiscation order will be initially enforced, even by LEOs that think that it is wrong and who are really nice guys to know, than that it would be completely ignored. I would hope to be lucky enough to draw a LEO who was enforcing it with as little enthusiasm as possible, but I wouldn't bank on it.

I can't honestly say that I would go out in a blaze of glory resisting such an unconstitutional order. My personal strategy would be to survive the encounter, retain at least one weapon if possible and get back at the bastards later through legal channels if possible, and other channels in the unlikely event that the emergency order was the beginning of true tyranny.
72 posted on 09/24/2005 7:55:54 AM PDT by M1911A1
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To: Old Student
Count on me also. I stand with you.

Jammer
113 posted on 09/24/2005 2:21:13 PM PDT by JamminJAY (This space for rent)
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To: Old Student
Cops (or anyone else) who start breaking into my house are another matter. There WILL be a gunfight.

The problem is that the cops most likely won't break into your home. They will knock on the door and there will be more than one of them.

Unless you are aware that they are there only to take your weapons, there would be no reason for you not answer the door.

134 posted on 09/25/2005 12:21:25 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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