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Even with head start, Houston had a problem
Waterbury Republican-American ^
| September 24, 2005
| Erin McClam (A.P.)
Posted on 09/24/2005 1:13:44 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: JamminJAY
The NOLA evacuation went very well for those that had a car or a friend with a car. However, many people with cars in New Orleans stayed.
That is why you see so many flooded cars in New Orleans.
And like you and other Responsible Americans I do not need the mayor, governor or president to tell me to leave town when a hurricane in on its way. The Nanny State is out of Control.
To: IronMan04
In NO proper and in the surrounding parish's there were "over" two thousand private, municipal, school district buses available. Even Blank Blanco managed to commandeer hundreds of LA school buses in less than a day, after she came out of shock long enough to grasp the unfolding SD & CC debacle.
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posted on
09/24/2005 3:03:22 PM PDT
by
Ursus arctos horribilis
("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
To: IronMan04
That equals about right........ Regardless of your assertion there are more than one road out of NO. But your one road at 1.3 million and Houston 4 million with 4 roads.....
Add to the above US 90 & 61, I-49 north out of Lafayette.
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posted on
09/24/2005 3:03:33 PM PDT
by
deport
To: IronMan04
I need to return my sister to her home in the Houston area soonest.
Can you suggest any local web-sites with current traffic info, specifically I-10 flow from Schulenburg or Columbus into Houston?
Much obliged.
84
posted on
09/24/2005 3:06:01 PM PDT
by
laotzu
To: willyd
I need to return my sister to her home in the Houston area soonest.
Can you suggest any local web-sites with current traffic info, specifically I-10 flow from Schulenburg or Columbus into Houston?
Much obliged.
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posted on
09/24/2005 3:07:51 PM PDT
by
laotzu
To: deport
Okay, here it is again. To get out of the City of New Orleans or even the New Orleans area I-10 is the best and only safe route. BTW-HWY 90 was Closed via sand bags at the Jefferson-St. Charles Parish Line by Saturday afternoon.
Do you expect the people of New Orleans to teletransport themselves to Lafayette just before getting on I-49?
I-10 East to 59 Bottle Necks in Mississippi. Remember, the people of MS are evacuating too.
Over the lake? No way!
To: IronMan04
The TxDOT coordinated evacuation from Houston was a disaster complicated by Contraflow lanes being opened very late in the process and people who left far west and north Houston who could have stayed home and been safe. And I read that in an interview, the mayor or governor stated that the late opening of the contraflow lanes was a needed correction. A politician admitting and accepting responsibilty. So quickly.
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posted on
09/24/2005 3:12:45 PM PDT
by
UCANSEE2
(I jez calls it az I see it.)
To: laotzu
i just saw I-10 on the news and it is jam packed...i would suggest maps.google.com and look for alternate routes...maybe you can find something there....they are saying on the news for everyone to stay away for now but i don't think anyone is listening..probably the sooner you get on the road the better...make sure you have gas though...good luck...hope this helps.
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posted on
09/24/2005 3:14:44 PM PDT
by
willyd
(Good Fences Make Good Neighbors)
To: Graybeard58
"There were some weaknesses," Texas Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, a Democrat...Put her at the top of that list...
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posted on
09/24/2005 3:15:26 PM PDT
by
Libloather
(Educating Murrymom - one post at a time...)
To: IronMan04
As I said you all did great...... Maybe La can become the official model for evacuations in the future. I'm glad you made it and that you didn't have any problems....
Now you have a nice one...... I'm finished with this one, you can have the last word. The best to you.
90
posted on
09/24/2005 3:15:27 PM PDT
by
deport
To: IronMan04
The New Orleans area has one road out of town Okay, now you're reaching. They have I-10 going east, I-10 going northwest to Baton Rouge and I-55 going due north. Whether it is easier to move half a million when there are three major thoroughfares or four million when there are five major thoroughfares (I-10 east and west, I-45 north and US 59 northeast and southwest) and a few extra days is an open question. But there's no doubt to me that the Houston/Galveston area evacuation went better than the New Orleans one. Whether that's because of less government incompetence or more advanced notice or just the fact that Katrina happened first, can be debated forever. The upper Texas Gulf Coast got everybody out of dodge and, from my observations, did so with few snags given the monumental task involved. I give credit to any offical of any party who helped to make that run smoothly.
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posted on
09/24/2005 3:16:25 PM PDT
by
Tall_Texan
(Austin TX - and staying put.)
To: IronMan04
Something went very wrong in the Houston Evacuation.2.8 million people evacuated within a couple of days; the highways were NOT built to handle that kind of traffic. There isn't a highway in the country that can handle that.
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posted on
09/24/2005 3:19:10 PM PDT
by
Peach
(South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
To: Bob Mc
If cities were designed to be quickly emptied they would ill-serve other objectives. At a cafeteria you can indeed choose everything (within your budget).
When designing a car, a building, a city, whatever, you can't choose everything. Many of the choices are mutually exclusive or at least mutually mitigating.
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posted on
09/24/2005 3:19:38 PM PDT
by
jimfree
(Freep and Ye shall find.)
To: Texasforever
Agreed, is anyone actually willing to pay for an infrastructure that will allow a 2 million plus city to empty smoothly in, say, 12 hours? The Democrats and some Republicans would commit the funds for the project but would end up spending it on multicultural math courses or some such.
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posted on
09/24/2005 3:19:47 PM PDT
by
JimSEA
To: IronMan04
That leaves I-10 West as the only viable route out of town. While that was the main route out, there were shots of bumper-to-bumper traffic on the causeway, and I-10E was also utilized.
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posted on
09/24/2005 3:20:59 PM PDT
by
sinkspur
(Just west of DFW Airport. We can take in four or five and two dogs.)
To: laotzu
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posted on
09/24/2005 3:22:49 PM PDT
by
UCANSEE2
(I jez calls it az I see it.)
To: IronMan04
It took one person you heard of 15 hours from NO.
It took one person you heard of 20 hours from Houston.
These are anecdotes which have nothing to do with actual averages. I know many people who got to Austin, Dall, San Antonio, Fort Worth, etc. in reasonable times. Anecdotes are meaningless garbage.
So, Mr. Stuck on Stupid, stick it in your ear and break it off.
To: No Truce With Kings
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posted on
09/24/2005 3:28:44 PM PDT
by
TheMom
(My husband and children rock! I am like a rock . . . round and thick.)
To: sinkspur
Again, the Causeway is a Deathtrap during a hurricane and I-10 East goes straight to Mississippi would slow the Evacuation from the MS Gulf Coast.
To: KingKongCobra
I was one of the people that had the sense to get out of New Orleans prior to Katrina and know how long it took me and all my friends and relatives.
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