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To: Dark Knight

No,

The Kursk had old style torpedo's which creates Hydrogen and exploded in the sub (obselete design).

Most of Russia's tanks are T-72's. Most of the BMP's are BMP2. Look at the troops in Chechnya and how they are equipped! AK-47, many without body armor even during the second war....... Here's a little fact for ya. Most of these new super duper ADA systems are nothing more than old potatoes reheated. S200 I think is a SA-5 (improved), S400 is a SA-10 I believe....... Most of these new systems is old technology repackaged; improved and marketed as something new.

They want to sell their stuff too, and as long as it’s not to some Tin Pot dictator like Syria (Which they are SA-18 MANPADS) or others there is no problem. But in today’s world many build their own and the competition out there is fierce. Where does a Russian tank or fighter which is largely incompatible in doctrine and logistics fit into the equation? It doesn’t. Except for price where they are competetive, the Russians only have the scrap left over markets of Tin Pot dictatorships as their customers.

Russia makes a lot of its money off of sales to people who no one else is willing to sell to. Who other than Russia or China would sell Syria advanced MANPADS systems? So while their stuff is largely “junk” and inferior to it’s Western counterpart, it will continue to proliferate since it does work and they are willing to sell to Libya, Iran, N. Korea or some other rouge nation. Within NATO the French are the bottom feeders. Beneath them you get into the “sell to anyone” category which Russia and China fall into.

Red6


14 posted on 09/27/2005 10:02:42 PM PDT by Red6
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To: Red6

Thanks Red6!

Have you heard about the cavitation torpedo?

DK


16 posted on 09/27/2005 10:14:09 PM PDT by Dark Knight
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To: Red6; injin
Most of these new super duper ADA systems are nothing more than old potatoes reheated.

Yeah, that's why our (Russian) old rockets "Soyuz" fly to ISS without any problem and your "Shuttles" stand somewhere in the ass.


17 posted on 09/27/2005 10:19:00 PM PDT by eks41
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To: Red6
Well Red6,

Respectfully 'junk' as you call it, will kill as good as 'not junk'. A T-72 used by a smart general is still a formidable weapon. Is it relevant that the soldier is at the wrong end of an AK47 or M16?

IMO sometimes our stuff is gold plated and kitchen sinked.

What say you?

Wolf
25 posted on 09/27/2005 10:57:28 PM PDT by RunningWolf (U.S. Army Veteran.....75-78)
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