Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


1 posted on 09/28/2005 10:49:50 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Why would they want to discard their human shields? Now these towns could be obliterated.


2 posted on 09/28/2005 10:51:52 AM PDT by GSlob
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

They're running out of places to put Syrian "insurgents".


3 posted on 09/28/2005 10:52:02 AM PDT by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I don't necessarily see this as bad news. It seems they're helping us out by getting the innocent civilians out of the blast zone. I hope any town that is "taken over" by jihadis will be promptly turned to glass.


4 posted on 09/28/2005 10:52:41 AM PDT by saquin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Well I hope we can cut off the terrorists lines of retreat and exterminate them with extreme predjudice. We can call it operation panty raid.


5 posted on 09/28/2005 10:53:12 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

how many insurgents can there be to "take over 5 towns"?

hey, this is an easy one - if they are evacuating the populace for us, just blow those towns to hell from the air.

there is some part of this story that is missing.


6 posted on 09/28/2005 10:53:16 AM PDT by oceanview
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: All
However things are likely to change shortly and this may be the last stand for the significant forces of the Terrorists:

From the Fourth Rail today:

Operation Hunter Redux

***************************************************

September 28, 2005

Operation Hunter Redux

By Bill Roggio

Last week, the Coalition announced that Operation Hunter (or Sayaid), designed to bolster Coalition forces in the region of Qaim on the Syrian border, was underway. Yesterday, Iraq's Chief of Interior Ministry Commandos stated that Iraqi commandos will conduct sweeps in the border area beginning Tuesday (it is unclear if this means operations are currently underway, or if the deployment is moving forward). KUNA intimates the operations will be an Iraqi led endeavor, but no doubt the Marines based in Qaim as well as Special Operations units, Air Force, Naval and army artillery assets will participate.

This news coincides with an article in the San Francisco Chronicle that claims al Qaeda has gained control of the desert towns of Husaybah, Karabila, Sada, Qaim, and Ubaydi. Earlier this month, similar rumors about Haditha were reported, while the claim of the establishment of the "Islamic Republic of Qaim" were dismissed by Marine Major Neil Murphy as a "crock".

Recently, Lieutenant Colonel Julian Alford, commander of the 3/6 Marines in Qaim reports the terrorists are threatening the townsfolk with beheadings if they did not clear the area. LTC Julian states "For the time being, they run these towns." Al Qaeda is posting signs warning residents not to cooperate with the Coalition, and has passed out flyers threatening to behead residents of the towns if they do not leave. Colonel Stephen Davis, commander of the Marines Regimental Combat Team 2, states that “Marine forces have played a game of cat and mouse with the insurgency up and down the Euphrates River valley.”

The likelihood is that Colonel Davis, LTC Julian and Major Murphy are all correct. al Qaeda has continually run up the black flag in this region and elsewhere to grab media headlines, and the Marines have continually moved in to eject the terrorists or have conducted numerous strikes at their infrastructure and leadership. There have not been enough forces available to police every town in western Anbar, and the Coalition's strategy of targeted airstrikes and raids is designed to keep the enemy off balance. LTC Julian alludes to this when he states "have seen a lot of guys in black pajamas and black ski masks and with weapons, and we've killed a number of them."

Whether or not al Qaeda controls the small towns in the region is irrelevant. What does matter is the Coalition, and particularly the Iraqi Army, is prepared to move into Qaim in force. LTC Julian states the operations along the eastern end of the Euphrates River has driven the insurgents and al Qaeda westward. He estimates that upward to 400 fighters are in the region, and the majority are foreign. There are 3,000 Iraqi soldiers prepared to move into the region “soon”.

The pieces are in place to move on Qaim. Col. Davis states the City of Hit is secure, with a strong Marine and Iraqi security force presence. The elimination of the al-Ahwal Brigade in Hit underscores Coalition’s freedom of action and the level of cooperation from the local population in Hit. Rawah has a major base of operations. Habbaniyah, Ramadi, Khan Al Baghdadi, Al Asad Air Base, the Haditha Dam and Qaim all sport a significant Coalition presence, including Iraqi security forces [see this article on US and Iraqi forces being moved into the area and the accompanying map]. The Euphrates is clearly being segmented to force the insurgents into smaller and smaller regions.

The San Francisco Chronicle inadvertently gets to the heart of the issue, when it states “Insurgent forces have in the past controlled major towns in Iraq, especially in the so-called Sunni triangle north and west of Baghdad, including Fallujah, Ramadi and, most recently, Haditha.” These cities were major jewels in al Qaeda and the insurgency’s crowns.

Today, Fallujah, Ramadi, Hit and other towns along the eastern branch of the Euphrates River are under Coalition control [with the exception of Haditha, whose status is unclear]. al Qaeda and the insurgency now claim they control the towns of Husaybah, Karabila, Sada, Qaim, and Ubaydi. These are towns with small populations on the outer edge of Iraq, far from the core of power in Iraq. The insurgency is being driven westward, and the Coalition is in pursuit.

This does not mean that al Qaeda and the insurgency cannot conduct attacks within Baghdad and other major cities. They continue to do so, and will be a deadly foe for some time. But these attacks do not forward the goals of al Qaeda and the insurgency - driving the Americans from Iraq and destabilizing the Iraqi government. With without control of territory and safe havens within Iraq, conducting an effective insurgency becomes increasingly difficult, particularly for al Qaeda, whose brutality has been rejected by large swaths of the native insurgency.

Posted 07:40 AM |

7 posted on 09/28/2005 10:54:23 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Many of these reports of terrorists taking over whole towns have proved to be false. Is there any confirmation from other reputable sources?


8 posted on 09/28/2005 10:54:35 AM PDT by hlmencken3 ("...politics is a religion substitute for liberals and they can't stand the competition")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
-- A senior U.S. Marine commander said Monday that insurgents loyal to militant leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi had taken over at least five key western Iraqi towns on the border with Syria and were forcing local residents to flee.

That is fantastic news.

(Town + Jihadis) - Civilians = Free Fire Zone

10 posted on 09/28/2005 10:58:12 AM PDT by Polybius
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
All the civilians are gone? Carpetbomb the whole area.
15 posted on 09/28/2005 11:02:34 AM PDT by Bacon Man (When I think of all the ways I've abused myself over the years I think, wait, what was the question?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I heard this morning that the towns have extensive tunnel systems underneath them to Syria.

It is time to stop pussyfooting around in Iraq!!!

17 posted on 09/28/2005 11:04:38 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Sounds like the first thing to do is bomb a moat around this area to stop tunnel use and the carpet bomb the h&!! out of the area until it is a large deep pit.

Drop it about 100' below it's current altitude.


21 posted on 09/28/2005 11:11:41 AM PDT by ChefKeith ( If Diplomacy worked, then we would be sitting here talking...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

God you got to love stupid foes. Get ready to meet Satan you morons.


24 posted on 09/28/2005 11:32:07 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Don't get stuck on stupid now, reporters)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I am not sure I believe the article to begin with (no offense EatB) but this makes it a whole lot easier for us. If you leave you are a possible "good guy", if you decide to stay and the terrorist don't behead you then you are a bad guy.

I say give the "good guys" 24 hours to clear out of town then breakout the MOAB's.
26 posted on 09/28/2005 11:38:27 AM PDT by A Texan (Oderint dum metuant)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Goody.. Shock and AW!(hold mah beer) event..
Time for Iraqi military prove yerself time..
American servicemen to pass the popcorn and provide intelligence.. hopefully
31 posted on 09/28/2005 12:19:36 PM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Kerry in 2008: "Ah yes. I remember a secret mission up the Euphrates river where we secretly slipped into Syria over Christmas 2005..."


45 posted on 09/28/2005 1:27:15 PM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, DemocRATs believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Syria's sending them a welcome basket.


46 posted on 09/28/2005 1:33:15 PM PDT by wolfcreek
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
A senior U.S. Marine commander said Monday that insurgents loyal to militant leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi had taken over at least five key western Iraqi towns on the border with Syria and were forcing local residents to flee.

Wait for the residents to flee, then bomb them back to the Stone Age. (Oh, wait, they're already there...)Bomb them back to the Pleistocene!!!

48 posted on 09/28/2005 1:39:36 PM PDT by ez (What went wrong...Blanco kept the Red Cross out while Nagin kept the refugees in.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

But wait! Cindy Sheehan says that these are freedom fighters, who the residents of Iraq love!

Seriously, I say we help get all the civilians out of there. Then, begin "Rolling Thunder v2.0" Bring the B52s and B2s, and bomb anything that moves, then bomb anything that doesn't move! Then bomb it some more.

Make an exhibition of it. Leave nothing and no one alive.

Mark


57 posted on 09/28/2005 6:56:20 PM PDT by MarkL (I didn't get to where I am today by worrying about what I'd feel like tomorrow!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Pay no attention to the massive progress in Iraq, MSM, keep reporting the BS ...

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/09/20050928.html


58 posted on 09/28/2005 7:15:14 PM PDT by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson