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Net Closes on Alleged Suva Reka Killers
Balkan Investigative Reporting Network ^ | 9/30/05 | Balkan Insight

Posted on 09/30/2005 9:56:44 AM PDT by Hoplite

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To: Hoplite; All

Thanks for the link – number of valid points there.
After all that digging in 99/2000 what occupying forces found? They allegedly found 4000 bodies?!! What happened to all those horror stories how evil Serbs killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Albanians? Lies, distortions, disaffirmations – as rest of claims made against Serbs in former Yugoslavia.

Of that number (4000) – 1256 is unidentified – non-Albanians no doubt! If they could somehow pronounce them Albanians, they would do it. That leaves 2744 identified. You can not find their names and other data. Reason, some of them were civilians killed by NATO, some of them were killed by KLA terrorist and some of dead bodies belonged to liquidated terrorist. After 2000, “international community” stops digging – they were finding too many non-Albanian bodies. We will have to wait for Serbs to reclaim their stolen property to discover truth.

Sadly, many bodies will never be identified – Albanian Nazi incinerated them:
http://www.pogledi.co.yu/galerija/sz/1.php

When that happens, “international community” is silent. They are very loud when they need to invent Serbian “sins”:
http://www.serbianna.com/columns/savich/035.shtml

They are absolutely silent when genocide against Serbs takes place.


21 posted on 10/04/2005 6:31:51 PM PDT by zagor-te-nej (http://emperors-clothes.com/sreb/mem.htm)
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To: zagor-te-nej
What happened to all those horror stories how evil Serbs killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Albanians?

Never happened - the 100,000 were reported as unaccounted for, and in light of satellite imagery of places like Izbica, where the Serbs massacred over 100 K-Albanians, and against the context of Srebrenica, where the thin veneer of civilization proved too much of a hassle for the Serbs, Scheffer and Cohen speculated that they may have been murdered, and made clear in their comments that the men's fate was unknown (Cohen put the number of executed up to that point at 4,600, based upon intelligence reports).

Since the discovery of the K-Albanian corpses in Serbia's SAJ/MUP training grounds, the issue is moot - the Serbs were murdering K-Albanians, and felt guilty enough about it to try and hide the evidence of their crimes, just like at Srebrenica.

And just like at Srebrenica, they failed, but the differently enabled still feels compelled to take up the challenge of denying the historical record in order to propagate Serbia's claim to exclusive victimhood.

As to Kosovo's missing Serbs, of the ~2700 persons still carried as "missing related to Kosovo" by the ICRC, some 500 are Serb, 200 non-Serb/non-Albanian, and the rest Albanian, while UNMIK's OMPF reports (as of 1/1/05) that since it took over operations from the ICTY, it has identified 905 exhumed individuals, of which 705 were Albanian, 99 non-Albanian, and 99 awaiting return to their families (ethnicity unspecified).

If you choose to remain ignorant as to what's happening in Kosovo in regards to the missing, then you've got nobody to blame but yourself. - the information is published and available to the public, just be advised that if you're going to declare that the information isn't specific enough in regards to Albanians, then you had better get used to seeing your claims of Serb victims disallowed on the same grounds.

The ICTY exhumed ~4k bodies through 2000 and a further ~2k since in both Kosovo and Serbia, which put the total number of recovered victims at around 6,000 so far.

And we're still waiting on Belgrade to fully disclose the operation to dispose/hide K-Albanian victims from Kosovo during the war, so that tally's not finished yet.

22 posted on 10/04/2005 11:16:50 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite

And how many of those Albanians were killed by the KLA?

That's one of the details that Clinton's knee pad brigade doesn't want answered.


23 posted on 10/05/2005 8:54:35 PM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: FormerLib
Regardless of who doesn't want what answered, at some point all the data that's going to be collected will be collected, statistically analyzed, and a number placed in the columns representing "Killed by Serbs", "Killed by Albanians" , & "Killed by NATO" for both civilians and combatants, in the same manner that the Research and Documentation Center in Sarajevo is doing for the war in Bosnia with their "Population Losses in Bosnia and Herzegovina 92-95" project.

I'll be happy to see both projects completed, in addition to the Serbian government's finally getting around to quantifying Serbia's civilian and military losses during Allied Force.

Until that time, however, you're just going to have to be happy with the names on the various victim annexes included in the Milosevic, Perisic, and Milutinovic et al. indictments, along with those victims recovered from inside Serbia proper, as being the minimum number of Albanians killed by Serbs, and the Albanian names in the annexes included in the Limaj et al. indictment as being the minimum number of Albanians killed by Albanians.

If you want to flesh those numbers out some more, knock yourself out.

24 posted on 10/05/2005 9:51:55 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite

there were many more Albs killed by their albanian brothers then what the Serbs did to the Albs. Time to move on, ergo. There is no accurate figure that quantifies being error free. The only "official" figure will be what the BiH muslim govt officials make it to be...kind of like the Srebr and Zepa numbers.


25 posted on 10/06/2005 9:26:19 AM PDT by ma bell ("Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". Major General Chesty Puller, USMC)
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To: Hoplite
If you want to flesh those numbers out some more, knock yourself out.

As I said, that's one of the details that Clinton's knee pad brigade doesn't want answered.

26 posted on 10/06/2005 5:21:25 PM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: FormerLib

read the former FBI directors book..tells you what the type of character clinton has. enough said.


27 posted on 10/07/2005 6:43:24 AM PDT by ma bell ("Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". Major General Chesty Puller, USMC)
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To: Hoplite
The bodies of the dead men, women and children, including a baby aged seven months, from the Kosovo town of Suva Reka were buried in pits in an army base in Prizren before being secretly transported to a new mass grave in the police compound at Batajnica, near Belgrade.

How does the "Balkan Investigative Network" know all of this? Who is the "Balkan Investigative Network"? Who writes this stuff for you Hopelite? Is this some self-appointed group of albanian murderers organized for the purpose of propagandizing and smokescreening the ongoing KLA atrocities the past six years? Dissemination of pro-jihad disinformation seems to be your primary function here on Freerepublic Hopelite.

Instead of always pretending to be the victim, why not tell us about the Christian monks, priests and nuns you've kidnapped and murdered in Kosovo since 1999 and the 120 or so churches and monasteries you've destroyed in your efforts to "ethnically cleanse" Serbs from the province?

28 posted on 10/08/2005 8:23:17 AM PDT by kimosabe31
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How does the "Balkan Investigative Network" know all of this?

Probably because they've been paying attention to goings on in the regiion and at the trial of Slobodan Milosevic.

An Ashkali gravedigger testified as to the removal of bodies from Prizren to Serbia, and some of the corpses at Batajnica were identified as persons who were killed at Suva Reka.

I'm surprised you don't know this.

Not.

29 posted on 10/08/2005 10:34:30 AM PDT by Hoplite
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To: kimosabe31; dennisw; thoughtomator; LtKerst; getoffmylawn; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; ...
How does the "Balkan Investigative Network" know all of this? Who is the "Balkan Investigative Network"?

From their own website:

The network came together through the members’ association with a regional media development project run by the Institute for War & Peace Reporting.
So we see that this is nothing more than yet another Soros-founded, funded, and backed organization dedicated to securing stolen properties in the Balkans for Mr. Soros. That they have to create the organizations necessary to perpetuate their lies speaks volumes.

More lies, same source, same poster. Surprise, surprise.

30 posted on 10/08/2005 1:16:49 PM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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Not only is the the "Balkan Investigative Network" the bastard offspring of IWPR, its country (sic) rep is Jeta Xhara.

Jeta was an IWPR rep in Kosovo and was also a BBC field producer in Kosovo. So we can see how impartial she it!

Jeta has a Masters in War Studies and Scriptwriting.

Her Bachelors degree is in Dramaturgy from the University of Pristina. What is dramaturgy? This line from Wikipedia sums it up very well!

More than actual writing, dramaturg's work can often be defined as designing.
From her degrees and job experience one can see that she quite adept at fabricating fiction!
31 posted on 10/08/2005 3:23:04 PM PDT by F-117A
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To: FormerLib; F-117A

Nice find both of you. Well Done!!


32 posted on 10/08/2005 5:50:27 PM PDT by Jane_N (Truth, like beauty....is in the eyes of the beholder! And please DON'T feed the trolls!)
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To: Jane_N; FormerLib; F-117A
Page 44250

19   Q. Just one matter of detail about Kosovo that I wanted assistance
20   on, Mr. Seselj, because I found your answers hard to follow. The movement
21   of bodies to Batajnica. Now, please, first of all, tell us what you are
22   saying as a basis -- on the basis of your investigations happened. What
23   happened?
24   A. Based on the efforts I made to get information, on orders from
25   Western intelligence agencies, certain political factors in Serbia

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1   collected a number of Albanian bodies, transported them to Batajnica,
2   buried them there so that at a suitable moment they might be discovered so
3   that the public might be horrified and thus accept more easily first the
4   arrest and then the extradition of Mr. Milosevic to The Hague Tribunal.
5   So everything was calculated to achieve that end.

I guess Seselj works for Soros too, huh guys?

Or is what IWPR reported simply an account of the facts, which you lot are unable to accept?

Hmmm... tough one.

33 posted on 10/08/2005 7:34:31 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite; Jane_N; FormerLib; F-117A

You are really getting desperate – quoting Mr. Seselj of all people!!

What Seselj meant to say is that certain political factors in Serbia (being on payroll of Soros and likes) collected a number of dead Albanians KILLED by Albanian terrorist and NATO and transported them to Batajnica.
You’ve noticed correctly that genocide against Albanians “Never happened”, so there is really no reason to support Albanian terrorist and narco-dealers in terrorizing non-Albanians.

http://www.balkan-archive.org.yu/


34 posted on 10/08/2005 8:40:37 PM PDT by zagor-te-nej (http://emperors-clothes.com/sreb/mem.htm)
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To: Hoplite
Or is what IWPR reported simply an account of the facts...

Odd how you feel free to reject any reports coming form the Serb media but drop to your kneepads whenever Soros, or any of his organizations, needs service. What a joke this is! LOL!

35 posted on 10/09/2005 12:02:29 PM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: FormerLib
I didn't reject the report in #18 because it was from Serb media, Lib, but because it was incorrect, as demonstrated.

Duh.

36 posted on 10/09/2005 3:21:41 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
I wasn't referring to that specific posting but to your myriad attempts to refute reports about al-Qaida operatives in Kosovo and Bosnia merely by noting that it is the Serbian media who is unconvering the truth.

Double duh, klloshar.

Posting stuff written by the Soros lackeys sort of proves how the truth works against your side.

37 posted on 10/09/2005 3:41:39 PM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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"The SAJ slaughtered women and children at Suva Reka, but screwed you when they didn't properly dispose of the bodies, leaving them to be exhumed and identified so that your attempts at denial and obfuscation are so much wasted effort."

Then name the women and children they have found? There have been no children found in the graves - they are all KLA military recruitment age. Just about all are 18 and above. There may be half a dozen around 16/17, but certainly no pre-teens or babies. The KLA was known to recruit underage from Kosovo and Albania - there have been reports about child soldiers being used in the Kosovo war. Still, none have been found as in the horror stories which talk about young children and babies.

But if you know different then give the names and ages.

38 posted on 10/09/2005 4:27:30 PM PDT by joan
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To: FormerLib

Makes sense...hopelite a soros weasel spreading disinformation on FR.


39 posted on 10/10/2005 9:51:12 AM PDT by kimosabe31
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To: kimosabe31

Yeah, you have to pay someone to get them to act the fool as our "friend" does with these bogus reports.


40 posted on 10/10/2005 11:38:17 AM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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