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VPC Recommendations for Securing Firearms and Ammunition During Disasters
VPC ^ | Josh Sugarmann

Posted on 09/30/2005 9:10:54 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan

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To: Dan from Michigan
Individuals who fire at emergency and rescue personnel who are engaged in rescue and recovery operations should be subject to enhanced jail sentences.

BULLS**T!!!!Individuals who fire and emergency and rescue personnel who are engaged in rescue and recovery operations should be subject to SUMMARY EXECUTION!

But of course, Josh wouldn't like that... See, he wants to give these idiots (who he realizes think just like him) an "enhanced time-out."

Mark

21 posted on 10/01/2005 5:33:24 AM PDT by MarkL (I didn't get to where I am today by worrying about what I'd feel like tomorrow!)
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To: Travis McGee

You rock! Have you contacted the VPC and thanked them? Is that a copyrighted picture, I don't think the UDT/Seal museum would give permission for the VPC to use their pictures. I wonder if they realize the irony that one of their pictures is one of the best pro-2a authors ever.


22 posted on 10/01/2005 6:15:07 AM PDT by vrwc0915
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To: Joe Brower

I've developed an amazing ability to catche the cases in my shirt, pockets, hat brim and glasses. Especially at the indoor range with the little plastic dividers between lanes. They are just perfect to bounce the 1911's ejected brass back into you.


23 posted on 10/01/2005 7:00:46 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Joe Brower

Hot brass no less!


24 posted on 10/01/2005 7:28:51 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Reality: By the time you get your head together, your body's shot to hell.)
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To: Travis McGee

I've always like that pic....I had forgotten about that.


25 posted on 10/01/2005 9:07:05 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Dan from Michigan
The goal here is simple; to use the New Orleans news garble to change the laws that oversee FFL holders. Their 'minimum security' standards would apply to the whole structure - most Big Box stores won't go rebuild their stores to comply - such as cement fill in cinder block walls, bullet resistant lexan for their glass doors, etc.

I also don't picture those few Mom and Pops who survived the last round of regulation changes going through and turning their homes into fortresses.

VPC wants the requirements enhanced to reduce the availability of guns. And they just might get it. It sounds reasonable that a place that sells guns should have the inventory locked up in a safe at night - unless you're a retailer who looks at a nightmare of spending an hour every morning and night putting out and putting away the inventory. This will also increase wear and tear on the guns - those little nicks and scratches that create the 'special deals' at local gun shops.

VPC wants more stringent requirements for reporting firearm loss - that 'should have been' in the reporting requirement is implying that dealers have to make a full firearms inventory every 24 hours - another hour or more wasted per day.

Honestly, the folks I feel the worst for are gunsmiths, something that is already becoming a swiftly disappearing breed. They too would be required to follow all these regulations, and they're already burdened by too much paperwork. Most would likely roll up shop.

Gun grabbers are just after one thing - making it impossible to privately own a firearm. I'm sure that VPC's next effort would be to require every gun owner to have a specific rider on their home owner's insurance (or a separate policy if a home isn't owned.)
26 posted on 10/01/2005 9:25:53 AM PDT by kingu (Draft Fmr Senator Fred Thompson for '08.)
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To: Travis McGee
I hope they got your permission to use that photo.

L

27 posted on 10/01/2005 9:59:07 AM PDT by Lurker (Reality cannot be changed by wishful thinking, good intentions, or legislation.)
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To: Travis McGee
After all, you are notorious, Travis.
28 posted on 10/01/2005 11:37:17 AM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: vrwc0915

I have no idea about the copyright status of the photo, but I remember when it was taken, and by whom. It's probably "public domain" now, having been taken by a Navy photographer.


29 posted on 10/01/2005 9:14:22 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Joe Brower

At 900 RPM (or whatever those 9mm MACs were), you had to be pretty quick to catch all 30 in your mouth.


30 posted on 10/01/2005 9:16:03 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: NewRomeTacitus; RandallFlag

MACs were perfect for shootouts in phone booths, and were also terrific for driving in tent pegs.


31 posted on 10/01/2005 9:17:12 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Jack Black

Let's not forget about catching hot brass with your ear, your collar against your neck, and by the hinge of your glasses.


32 posted on 10/01/2005 9:18:53 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Lurker; Czar; wardaddy
I'm sure it's old "public domain" stuff by now.

Anyway, I like this one better.

33 posted on 10/01/2005 9:20:40 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee
Did that suppressor actually work well? Looks like it might get a little warm on the left hand after a while :)
34 posted on 10/01/2005 9:46:54 PM PDT by vrwc0915
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To: vrwc0915

They worked pretty well (Sionics suppressor), considering the 9mm we had was supersonic. The idea was mainly to not wake up an enemy quick reaction force a mile or so away. Yes, they got DAMN hot on full auto, after only 2 or 3 mags. The rubber covering on them actually would start to melt if you over did it.


35 posted on 10/01/2005 10:00:43 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee

Good photo. You look appropriately menacing...:-)


36 posted on 10/02/2005 8:45:20 AM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Travis McGee

LOL! They did put out quite the stream. Perhaps they were originally designed for shootouts in bathroom stalls.


37 posted on 10/02/2005 9:27:24 AM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (Have faith in God, because Man will disappoint you every time.)
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To: NewRomeTacitus

The perfect "MAC attack" is depicted in the classic flick "Three Days of the Condor."

The UPS men walk into an office, and pull out MACs and mow everybody down at their desks.

They are also popular in Latin America for assassins who are riding tandem on powerful motorcycles. The MAC is easily hidden by the back rider, who uses it while pulling alongside their target. Almost impossible to defend against this type of attack, without a very well armored vehicle.


38 posted on 10/02/2005 1:02:40 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee

Considering that the cops were some of the worst crooks during the New Orleans Lake Naglin disaster, who in their right mind would ever give the cops their FFL inventory to secure?


39 posted on 10/03/2005 7:24:39 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: CodeToad

Not me.


40 posted on 10/03/2005 7:46:30 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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