Posted on 10/02/2005 4:30:57 AM PDT by ovrtaxt
My problem with the press in this is they are now backtracking. Stuff like "there was no second bomb it was a backpack". Freepers at the scene said it was known there was a 2nd bomb.
> Was the dead guy swarthy, black headed, carrying a
> Koran? That might give us a clue. Is that racial
> profiling? Put me down in favor of that.
"Statistical" profiling, please.
There's little "racial" about being a member of
the Cutthroat Cult.
Yeah, I didn't include the laziness factor- and that probably does account for a lot of the 'echo chamber' effect in the media. Good point.
I consider all of that to be the proverbial fog of war. It may be true, may not be. I think we just don't have all the facts yet.
We will eventually. I hope.
Someone accused me of pushing 'populist hyperbole' to sensationalize Able Danger.
I responded, 'Well, we wouldn't want any populist hyperbole, we might end up with something like the Constitution.'
That shut him up.
hyperbole
I thought that meant a person who spent too much time at the local alley.
Carolyn
Not just FR, but talk radio, the bloggers, FR, and, to a lesser extent, FNC. But there's no doubt in my mind, that they would not be reporting, if others weren't doing so.
Drudge really taught them a lesson when he broke Monica.
I remember that! It was great, wasn't it? But I don't think it's done any permanent harm to Clinton et al.
Carolyn
Of course you don't want a panic, agreed. But come on, it's been almost 12 hours, and we have no info?
Could it be that the police have nothing more to report at this time?
If this were a terorist attack, the msm would se all over Bush today saying he is losing the war against terrorism. on the other hand, they'd have to staop complaining about Iraq because Bush is right about taking the war to our enemies and not allowing them to bring it here.
That means that they didn't block cell phone service, if they ever did, until some time after the blast. It would take some minutes for a) Someone in authority to realise there had been an explosion. b)Get to the point in the "Bomb or Explosion" checklist where it says "shut off the cell phones" and c) call the cell service providers to get the job done.
It could be that they never blocked service, but it also could be that they blocked it after you and those around you made their calls.
BTW, was this the "end of the 2nd quarter" blast or the later one?
End of 2nd Qtr. I did not hear a second one.
Sprint and Verizon worked throughout the game for me and my buddies. No outage at all.
On the Front Page of Drudge now. "Individual Suicide" yea right. Two devices close to buses and a 100 yards from a packed stadium.
NORMAN, Okla. (AP) -- One person was killed in an explosion in a traffic circle about 100 yards from a packed football stadium at the University of Oklahoma on Saturday night in what authorities were calling a suicide.
"We are apparently dealing with an individual suicide, which is under full investigation," OU President David Boren said in a statement.
There were no other reports of injuries. There was no word on the identity or sex of the person who died.
The loud noise of the explosion could be heard clearly inside Oklahoma Memorial Stadium, where 84,000 people were watching the Oklahoma Sooners play Kansas State.
Officers cordoned off an area west of the stadium, known as the South Oval, and nobody was allowed out of the stadium immediately after the blast, which occurred shortly before 8 p.m. People were allowed out of the stadium about 8:30 p.m.
A police bomb squad detonated explosives found at the site of the blast. The detonation could also be heard in the stadium area. The area near the stadium was searched by bomb dogs.
"At no time was anyone in the stadium in danger," Boren said.
Kerry Pettingill, Oklahoma homeland security director, said the incident was under criminal investigation and the motive behind the explosion was not known.
As fans streamed out of the stadium after the game, they were routed around the crime scene. Some fans leaving the stadium were escorted by police to buses that were parked near where the explosion occurred.
The state Medical Examiner's Office was on the scene as was the Norman Police Department, firefighters, the FBI and officials of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.
FBI spokesman Gary Johnson said an FBI bomb technician was providing assistance to local police. Emergency vehicles, including fire trucks, surrounded the area.
OU police Sgt. Gary Robinson said the body had not been removed as of late Saturday night as a bomb team continued to check the area for possible explosives before detectives could move in for their investigation.
Jaclyn Hull, an OU freshman, said she was leaving the game shortly before the explosion.
"We saw a little bit of smoke, about as much as you would see coming up from a grill," she said.
Stan Hilton of Tulsa said he heard the explosion while he was watching the game from his seat near the field.
"I became afraid at halftime when they had us locked in the stadium," he said after he left the stadium.
Larry Lucas II, an OU senior, said at the time of the explosion he was in the university's architecture building near where the blast occurred.
"At first I thought it was a prank because that's where the Kansas State buses were parked," he said. Lucas said he saw Kansas State players leave the bus before the game.
Authorities could be seen searching Kansas State players and coaches amid tight security as they boarded buses to leave the area.
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