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Suicide bombing at Oklahoma University?
worldnetdaily.com ^ | October 2, 2005 | WORLDNETDAILY

Posted on 10/02/2005 4:30:57 AM PDT by ovrtaxt

Suicide bombing at Oklahoma University?

1 killed as 84,000 watch Sooners vs. Kansas State


Posted: October 2, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern


© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

One person was killed in an explosion about 100 yards from a packed football stadium at the University of Oklahoma last night in what officials are ruling a suicide.

The noisy explosion was heard inside Oklahoma Memorial Stadium, where 84,000 were watching the Oklahoma Sooners play Kansas State.

A police bomb squad reportedly detonated other explosives found at the site of the blast.

No spectators were allowed out of the stadium immediately following the blast, which occurred about 8 p.m. near halftime at the football game.

By 8:30, police were allowing fans to leave the area.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: jihad; normanok; okc; ou; oubombing; suicide; terrorism
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An explosion with a fatality at a packed stadium? And I can find almost nothing on this story.

SEEMS TO BE KIND OF IMPORTANT. MAYBE IT'S JUST ME????

1 posted on 10/02/2005 4:30:58 AM PDT by ovrtaxt
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To: ovrtaxt

The media did not report it.

But FR did. Check the post directly underneath yours.


2 posted on 10/02/2005 4:32:07 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: ovrtaxt

It's just you. There's a Breaking News thread to your right. ;)


3 posted on 10/02/2005 4:32:24 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: ovrtaxt

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1495058/posts

Lots of info here..but still not much in the morning news. Odd.


4 posted on 10/02/2005 4:32:40 AM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: leadpenny

I read some of it, but it's about 1000 posts long.

Why is the rest of the planet ignoring this? I figure another thread on FR isn't going to hurt.


5 posted on 10/02/2005 4:35:18 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (PURVEYOR OF POPULIST HYPERBOLE AND RHETORIC.)
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To: ovrtaxt

Well it was a football game and 84,000 people, probably not known exactly what is what. Would be no need to create a panic.


6 posted on 10/02/2005 4:36:23 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: ovrtaxt
We have Fox on now, and they haven't said anything yet.

Carolyn

7 posted on 10/02/2005 4:38:35 AM PDT by CDHart (The world has become a lunatic asylum and the lunatics are in charge.)
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To: ovrtaxt

I wasn't addressing the fact that you started a thread.

I know better than to do that.


8 posted on 10/02/2005 4:39:37 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Just mythoughts

Of course you don't want a panic, agreed. But come on, it's been almost 12 hours, and we have no info?

The other thread is full of Freepers asking questions. Frankly, I don't want to read through 1000 posts of everybody wondering what happened.

No statements from the cops? No witnesses? No name of the fatality? Nothing?


9 posted on 10/02/2005 4:41:18 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (PURVEYOR OF POPULIST HYPERBOLE AND RHETORIC.)
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To: CDHart

It woudln't be the first time that FR had much more info, much earlier, than the traditional media. One of the things that made me a really dedicated FReeper was the reporting on the Cincinnati riots in early 2001, where that was commonplace.


10 posted on 10/02/2005 4:42:01 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: ovrtaxt

"No statements from the cops? No witnesses? No name of the fatality? Nothing?"


Well seems to me it is far better to say nothing, if one knows nothing, and thus far saying "suicide bombing" says plenty. Today is after all Sunday and the biggest day for football, that is the "panic" I speak to.


11 posted on 10/02/2005 4:45:05 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: ovrtaxt
Frankly, I don't want to read through 1000 posts of everybody wondering what happened.

Among all the questions, there are some first- and second-hand reports in that thread. Check out PhiKapMom's posts for a lot more info than the MSM is providing.

12 posted on 10/02/2005 4:45:16 AM PDT by laz (They can bus 'em to the polls, but they can't bus 'em out of the path of a Cat 5 hurricane.)
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To: leadpenny

Oh, okay. :)

I figured a fresh thread, where people can chime in with any relevant info, is much less time consuming to read instead of 1000 posts with people going "what? where? prayers for the families..."

Not to minimize prayers, but for those of us with a schedule, (I have to get to church soon), a thread like that just isn't practical. Now we're up to what, 10 posts with no info? lol


13 posted on 10/02/2005 4:45:32 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (PURVEYOR OF POPULIST HYPERBOLE AND RHETORIC.)
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To: laz

Thanks. Now that's what I'm talkin about!


14 posted on 10/02/2005 4:46:22 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (PURVEYOR OF POPULIST HYPERBOLE AND RHETORIC.)
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To: ovrtaxt

" But come on, it's been almost 12 hours, and we have no info? "

- Right. How do you keep 84,000 people to keep their mouths shut for over 12 hours? My opinion is that the initial story was deliberately wrong, hysterically wrong or misreported wrong.


15 posted on 10/02/2005 4:56:55 AM PDT by finnigan2
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To: finnigan2; PhiKapMom

Search for posts by phikapmom. This was a suicide bomb, apparently, with at least 3 people involded according to witnesses, and at least 5 dead or injured (?). -I think-

And from what she described, it was a pretty hefty expolosion. Not some cheesy pipe bomb.


16 posted on 10/02/2005 5:01:58 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (PURVEYOR OF POPULIST HYPERBOLE AND RHETORIC.)
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To: ovrtaxt

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/10/01/oklahoma.explosion.ap/index.html


17 posted on 10/02/2005 5:09:22 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: ovrtaxt

I got up hoping for more news myself but the media appears to be playing the Obi Wan Kenobi game.


18 posted on 10/02/2005 5:12:06 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: ovrtaxt

The FoxNews site has a very similar story up.


19 posted on 10/02/2005 5:12:34 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: ovrtaxt
least 3 people involded

That could be incorrect. Last evening, I was listening to the news, and it mentioned 3 suicide bombers. However, it was only late in their report that they mentioned the bombings were in Bali.

The OKC suicide bombing has gotten little coverage, even on the Oklahoma TV and news websites.

The OKC bomber apparently was a lone individual. (So was shoebomber Reid, until further investigation revealed he was steeped in Al-Qaeda related terror cell.)

I haven't finished scanning the morning news to see whether the OKC bomber has been identified.
20 posted on 10/02/2005 5:19:55 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: ovrtaxt
I can find almost nothing on this story.

If there's not an opportunity to point to failure by the authorities it doesn't look like news to most editors. That's the whole point of modern journalism.

21 posted on 10/02/2005 5:21:59 AM PDT by siunevada
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To: cripplecreek

lol 'These are not the droids you're looking for' hehe

I just told my wife about it- she just woke up- and she doesn't believe me! I'm a kook this morning. haha


22 posted on 10/02/2005 5:24:28 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (PURVEYOR OF POPULIST HYPERBOLE AND RHETORIC.)
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To: TomGuy

phikapmom's witnesses say there were two dark skinned ME guys running into the stadium right after the explosion.


23 posted on 10/02/2005 5:26:31 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (PURVEYOR OF POPULIST HYPERBOLE AND RHETORIC.)
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To: TomGuy
FWIW, another article:

HERE

In my opinion, if it was a suicide that used a bomb, isn't it by definition a suicide bombing?

24 posted on 10/02/2005 5:28:34 AM PDT by meyer (The DNC prefers advancing the party at the expense of human lives.)
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To: ovrtaxt; All

Here's a recent thread with the AP wire story. Didn't read it yet, came back to post it here. But at least it is on AP, so there will not be a complete media blackout.

Can you tell how much I trust the media?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1495137/posts


25 posted on 10/02/2005 5:30:00 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: Lizarde
Thanks! I think the cell phones were shut down. First game I have attended in years that no one got a call after the blast, and instant messages with just the score did not get out. All of a sudden in the 4th quarter all of our cell phones went off that we had messages. They all went off at the same time too. That's when the lady behind us received the call from her sister-in-law who had been trying to get in touch with her.

State and/or Feds had their jamming systems on to prevent bombs going off by cell phone remote control. Blocks all othee cell phone usage.

27 posted on 10/02/2005 6:00:07 AM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus Reagan
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To: ovrtaxt

A repeat is a repeat. You figured wrong.


28 posted on 10/02/2005 6:01:40 AM PDT by em2vn
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To: em2vn
Lighten up, Francis.
29 posted on 10/02/2005 6:08:02 AM PDT by canalabamian (Durka durka...Muhammad FUBAR!)
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To: meyer

> ... if it was a suicide that used a bomb, isn't
> it by definition a suicide bombing?

That's why some news outlets refer to that sort of
terrorist as a "homicide bomber".

This may yet be just a suicide bomber,
unless we hear that he recently changed
his name to Mohammed M. Mohammed.


30 posted on 10/02/2005 6:11:23 AM PDT by Boundless (Imagine if Fox had a news channel)
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To: Boundless

Lessee, KFOR reports it as an "individualized suicide", wow, that's quite a parsing of words isn't it? I thought all suicides were "individual" (or individualized in KFOR's lexicon). That's why I prefer the label "Homicide bomber" when others are killed along with the suicidal maniac, words mean things...as KFOR apparently knows.


31 posted on 10/02/2005 6:22:12 AM PDT by brushcop (We lift up our military serving in harm's way and pray for total victory and a safe return.)
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To: Lizarde

That is interesting. Sounds like a good and quick response by those in charge. Very good.


32 posted on 10/02/2005 6:22:43 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: brushcop

"That's why I prefer the label "Homicide bomber"

No, no, that is an awful phrase that doesn't express these situations at all. If someone plants a bomb somewhere and it kills people that person is a "homicide bomber" even if they themselves are not killed in the blast. I prefer the term "suicide murderer" although it doesn't describe the weapon used. So, I think we will have to stick with "suicide bomber".


33 posted on 10/02/2005 6:27:09 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: Boundless

No kidding, suicide bombings are usually performed by terroists.....hello , and no one thinks this is a big deal?
Packed stadium, suicide terroist bombing.
Dont panic??
Media hysterically reports hurricanes for weeks on end, hysterically reports on Holloway for months on end, and they keep this as quiet as it is?
This is the first I heard of it thanks to FReepers!!


34 posted on 10/02/2005 6:32:24 AM PDT by stopem
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To: stopem

I'm surprised the Democrat governor isn't blaming this on Bush too.


35 posted on 10/02/2005 6:46:29 AM PDT by Galtoid ( .)
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To: stopem
No kidding, suicide bombings are usually performed by terroists.....hello , and no one thinks this is a big deal?

News reports said a 2nd bomb was exploded by officials at the scene. I assume they mean at the car the bomber was driving.

1 bomb may be construed as a method of suicide, but 2 bombs are a signal of something more sinister and deliberate.

Officials would have told us 9-11 was an airplane off course and accidentally hitting the WTC had it not been for that 2nd plane coming in on national TV and quickly followed by that 3rd plane hitting the Pentagon and that fourth plane crashing in Pennsylvania.

I repeat: Shoebomber Reid was 'no sign of terrorism' until that story couldn't be contained and it was revealed he was heavily into an al-Qaeda like cell. The WDC sniper(s) was the same, until they discovered Mohammad was steeped in TROP. Officials try to keep the masses ignorant -- by design.
36 posted on 10/02/2005 6:46:34 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: ovrtaxt
And from what she described, it was a pretty hefty expolosion. Not some cheesy pipe bomb.

from the norman transcript:

One person who responded to the scene said she heard the blast from four miles away.

37 posted on 10/02/2005 6:52:32 AM PDT by lunarbicep (If your ship doesn't come in, swim out to it. –Jonathan Winters)
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To: lunarbicep

'The suicide happened in or near the George Lynn Cross botany/microbiology building the oval’s east side'

hmmm, microbiology building.......


38 posted on 10/02/2005 7:21:50 AM PDT by bitt ('It is a good thing the Commander in Chief is tough as nails.' (FR))
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To: lunarbicep

Move along folks, nothing to see here...

Are there anymore suspects in Aruba??


39 posted on 10/02/2005 7:30:49 AM PDT by brushcop (We lift up our military serving in harm's way and pray for total victory and a safe return.)
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To: ovrtaxt
Here is what you do with a very long thread that you don't want to read but you are looking for information. Start at the last post and scroll up thru it until you see a piece of information that begins to answer your questions and then go directly to the post that is being quoted.
40 posted on 10/02/2005 7:33:34 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: brushcop
Football in Oklahoma (Norman) is BIG business and there is no way that anyone would want to upset that situation was the notion that this is anything other than a distraught student who committed suicide - forbid it be an organized effort to place someone inside the stadium with a bomb vest. Nope, its an 'individualized' suicide.
41 posted on 10/02/2005 7:36:09 AM PDT by zeaal (SPREAD TRUTH!)
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To: ovrtaxt
OK, I'll bite and add another bit of useless speculation. ; )

First, we all get upset when the press overplays exaggerates and basically spreads hysteria...and then it turns out to be much ado about a little. Think hurricane hysteria. So, they are reporting exactly what they know, which is basically nothing at this point. Isn't that what we want?

(I hate the press, so I have to tell you that it gives me great pain to have to defend them...but there you go.)

Second, if I were in charge, I would not want information released until all family members involved were notified—if indeed it was a suicide only. Or, until all conspirators where detained. So I would play my cards close to the chest.

I guess what I am saying is...the investigation is ongoing and the press has no information. That's not a conspiracy as much as the way it should be, imo.
42 posted on 10/02/2005 7:43:34 AM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: ovrtaxt

From what I've read it sounds less like a suicide bombing than a suicide who used a bomb.


43 posted on 10/02/2005 7:47:37 AM PDT by Zeroisanumber
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To: SE Mom

1639 posts as of 10:51 EDT, Sunday October 2.


44 posted on 10/02/2005 7:50:37 AM PDT by bvw
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To: TomGuy

Perhaps unexploded parts of teh first bomb?


45 posted on 10/02/2005 7:52:59 AM PDT by bvw
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To: pollyannaish

"First, we all get upset when the press overplays exaggerates and basically spreads hysteria...and then it turns out to be much ado about a little. Think hurricane hysteria. So, they are reporting exactly what they know, which is basically nothing at this point. Isn't that what we want?"

Would you please stop making sense??? If enough people thought like this, it would ruin all the good hysteria and tinfoil hat wearing here.


46 posted on 10/02/2005 7:58:17 AM PDT by Gone GF
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To: Gone GF

LOL. You want to hear something even funnier? I think the authorities did jam cell phones as a precaution. Exactly what we would want them to do immediately following a large explosion near a crowded stadium.

But it may end up meaning nothing more than that. Again, not a conspiracy, but a precaution. It makes me feel good to know that—shock—our "authorities" may actually be on the ball, just in case.

And I enjoy first hand accounts like PhiKappaMom who gave good insight into how things progressed throughout the evening because it gives great insights into the "feel" on the ground. But that doesn't mean that all the witnesses are correct. Some things may not have correlation to each other. Basic detective work.

Ah, well—speculation is fun. But I now return this thread to its previously scheduled programming, because I have Sunday shows to watch.


47 posted on 10/02/2005 8:08:44 AM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: pollyannaish

"But that doesn't mean that all the witnesses are correct. Some things may not have correlation to each other."

In virtually every plane crash, somebody (usually more than one person) reports seeing flames before the crash. In most cases, there are no flames UNTIL the crash, but people expect to see flames, so they do.

I'd be absolutely STUNNED if some of those 84,000 people hadn't reported seeing ME types running from the scene.


48 posted on 10/02/2005 8:12:48 AM PDT by Gone GF
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To: ovrtaxt

This sounds like the final scene to a "24" episode, where the bomber was supposed to do his business INSIDE the stadium, but was somehow stymied by Jack & Co--with the public blissfully unaware.


49 posted on 10/02/2005 8:19:08 AM PDT by montag813
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To: leadpenny

Lead...you are not PPP????


50 posted on 10/02/2005 8:21:27 AM PDT by cynicom
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