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China: Bachelor bomb(23 million out to wreak havoc?)
IHT ^ | 09/14/05 | Dudley L. Poston Jr. and Peter A. Morrison

Posted on 10/04/2005 5:02:23 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

China: Bachelor bomb

Dudley L. Poston Jr. and Peter A. Morrison International Herald Tribune

WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 14, 2005

SANTA MONICA, California In a trend fraught with troubling political and social implications, China will soon find itself with a marriage-age population remarkably out of balance, with about 23 million more young men than women available for them to marry in this decade and the next - what demographers term a "marriage squeeze."

This impending surplus of unattached young men could be a driving force behind increased crime, explosive epidemics of HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases, and even international threats to the security of other nations. Yet the Chinese government has done little to address its demographic destiny.

The coming squeeze is largely the legacy of the government's one-child policy, along with societal modernization. As a result, the nation's fertility rate has fallen dramatically, from around 6 children per woman in the 1960s to around 1.7 currently.

But the society's strong cultural preference for sons has not changed. In recent decades, ready access to ultrasound technology has enabled parents to learn the sex of their unborn children and has led to widespread female-specific abortion.

The demographic consequence is now apparent. Most societies exhibit biologically natural sex ratios at birth of around 105 baby boys born for every 100 baby girls, yielding roughly equal numbers of prospective brides and grooms as generations reach marriageable age. This normal pattern emerges where human interventions don't disturb biology.

But China has departed markedly from this natural pattern since the 1980s. Its sex ratio at birth has hovered between 115 and 120 baby boys for every 100 baby girls in recent years, a level that renders roughly one of every eight men in a generation "surplus."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; crime; expansionism; instability; male; population; sexratio; socialproblem; war
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China's first emperor Chin Shih Huang dispatched 500K troops to modern-day Guang-dong area and conquered it. Afterwards, troops were settled there to colonize the area. This was how Guang-dong was absorbed into Chinese empire. the current Chinese regime may resort to the same tactic. Invade sparsely populated countries neighboring China and after conquering it, settle soldiers there. Surplus males will be used as both troops and settlers.

China is already dumping Han population into Xinjiang and Tibet offering incentives to would-be Han settlers. I suspect that some of these settlers first came as soldiers and stayed there. This pattern could become more pronounced in the future.

I know that PLA was downsized in manpower and concentrate more on modern military hardwares. However, it is possible that China may organize large additional paramilitary forces comprised of these surplus young males. PLA would first come in and do military battle, destroying opponent's military. Then the paramilitary forces follow into the conquered area in large numbers, consolidating occupation, wiping out any lingering resistances, and eventually settling on the occupied area, which would ensure that the new territory would stay in Chinese empire.

1 posted on 10/04/2005 5:02:29 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; maui_hawaii; tallhappy; Dr. Marten; Jeff Head; Khurkris; hedgetrimmer; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 10/04/2005 5:03:14 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Can't they see the writing on the Wall?

I was at a Chinese restaurant and I noticed that the placemat was a Chinese "Year of the..." (insert your birthyear / get the animal that represents you) thingy.

I am Year of the Horse. I noticed that my wife is Year of the Rat. It instructed that a Horse must NEVER marry a Rat.

Hmmm... that explains a lot.


3 posted on 10/04/2005 5:08:38 PM PDT by agooga
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Looks like Chinese women are sitting on a gold mine.


4 posted on 10/04/2005 5:08:58 PM PDT by vetvetdoug (Shiloh, Corinth, Iuka, Brices Crossroads, Harrisburg, Britton Lane, Holly Springs, Hatchie Bridge,)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Maybe there will be a market for China male mail order brides in San Francisco.


5 posted on 10/04/2005 5:12:51 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: vetvetdoug
Re #4

Or in constant fear of being kidnapped. Two sides of the same coin.

6 posted on 10/04/2005 5:13:53 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

To paraphrase Mark Steyn, they are either going to have to be expansionist or become the first gay superpower since Sparta.


7 posted on 10/04/2005 5:15:04 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (trust but verify)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Interesting point. Also, with Chinese people having increased access to travel, there may also be more Chinese men marrying foreign women and taking them to their homeland.


8 posted on 10/04/2005 5:15:06 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Jeanine Pirro for Senate, Hillary Clinton for Weight Watchers Spokeswoman)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Sort of like an old Beach Boys song ... (kinda): "Two girls for eveeeery guuuuy ...."


9 posted on 10/04/2005 5:15:57 PM PDT by 11th_VA (Geezee Freepin Peezee ...)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
This impending surplus of unattached young men could be a driving force behind increased crime, explosive epidemics of HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases, and even international threats to the security of other nations. Yet the Chinese government has done little to address its demographic destiny.

Maybe the Chinese government doesn't see much of a problem? Crime is troublesome, of course ... but epidemic diseases will kill people, which suits their goal of lower population growth, and they didn't need a surplus of young men as an excuse to threaten the security of other nations!

10 posted on 10/04/2005 5:16:49 PM PDT by Tax-chick (When bad things happen, conservatives get over it!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

That's what they get for aborting females.


11 posted on 10/04/2005 5:17:58 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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Most of these surplus males are from poor family. They make barely enough to get themselves fed. Well-off Chinese can travel abroad and get brides. However, it would not be enough to mitigate bride shortage in China.

12 posted on 10/04/2005 5:20:13 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: vetvetdoug

Sounds like a good market for Kleenex and HBO.


13 posted on 10/04/2005 5:23:04 PM PDT by CATravelAgent (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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But there are no longer any good adjoining thinly-inhabited areas available. Siberia, central Asia, Mongolia--there are good reasons why few people live there. Tibet is marginal at best.

A traditional part of expansionist war was to kill enemy males and seize their women. This would suit them today, but modern warfare doesn't lend itself to this approach.


14 posted on 10/04/2005 5:23:07 PM PDT by proxy_user
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"Its sex ratio at birth has hovered between 115 and 120 baby boys for every 100 baby girls in recent years, "

That doesn't sound that bad. If 105 male to 100 females yields equal partners. That leaves 10 to 15% unmarried.

Right now, we have reverse ratios of that magnitude of single females to single males. But the excess females aren't out committing crimes.

Single Ratios in the US

15 posted on 10/04/2005 5:23:30 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Anti-Bubba182; TigerLikesRooster

Very true. And also the consequence of a culture which regards women as a lower form of life. I've read that India is beginning to experience a similar trend.


16 posted on 10/04/2005 5:24:30 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Jeanine Pirro for Senate, Hillary Clinton for Weight Watchers Spokeswoman)
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To: Tax-chick
Re #10

I doubt that Chinese regime would want these guys to become a social problem. These surplus males could repeat the historically established pattern of large-scale peasant rebellion. Yellow Turbans in Late Han dynasty, Maitreya Cult in waning days of Mongol Empire, all the way down to Taiping, and Boxer Rebellion in late 19th century. Such rebellions are dynasty breakers. In all these cases, the population certainly dropped dramatically for sure, but the dynasty went down as well.

There is no upside for letting these males create social problems, HIV or other crimes, because it may well lead to large scale social rebellion and chaos.

17 posted on 10/04/2005 5:25:58 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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Re #14

See my comments in Reply #1. In the modern variation of conquest scenario, large paramilitary force can come in after regular forces defeated the opponent's military. The paramilitary force would wipe out lingering resistance from (most likely local male) population with its massive manpower, and consolidate the occupation. Then they settle there, marrying local women.

18 posted on 10/04/2005 5:30:44 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster
They could start a war.
That would reduce some of the "surplus" male population regardless who wins.
Unfortunately it may not be a joke.
19 posted on 10/04/2005 5:34:14 PM PDT by BitWielder1
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To: vetvetdoug
Looks like Chinese women are sitting on a gold mine.

Most American women appear to be under that impression as well.

20 posted on 10/04/2005 5:35:43 PM PDT by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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