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The Right’s Left Turn
FrontPage Magazine ^ | 5 OCTOBER 2005 | Jacob Laksin

Posted on 10/05/2005 1:55:23 AM PDT by rdb3

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To: rdb3

Take it as you will but it only has to do with frustration over the lack of dissenting opinion that is allowed on the board.

Pat Buchanan is a true Patriot but Jim Robinson seems to think otherwise and deems him a traitor. Because I have and always will support Mr. Buchanan I'll be dubbed an anti-semite by half of the board and will probably be booted for challening JR. It's just frustrating.


61 posted on 10/09/2005 2:19:51 PM PDT by Yonkers Finest
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To: Yonkers Finest

I'll tell you what, pal. If you or anyone else joins in with the communists and terrorists and those who are giving aid and comfort to the enemy by protesting against America and against our troops and thereby putting our troops in even more danger of being blown up by terrorist bombs, then you will most definitely be banned from FR. And that's a fact!


62 posted on 10/09/2005 3:07:11 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: rdb3

I don't even think he's far right anymore.


63 posted on 10/09/2005 3:21:46 PM PDT by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: Alia

The problems is he isn't exercising the options of his position- he lets the Senate Democrats and media do that.


64 posted on 10/09/2005 3:25:01 PM PDT by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: nickcarraway
No, that's not true.

He said in 2000, Inaug Speech, exactly how his admin was going to go about "doing business". He has kept his word. The only ones trying to "change" his words, are those who only saw President Bush's won as their own "private little victory". Obviously, they did not listen very clearly to exactly what he says, and so they do not understand what he is doing.

Dittos again in re President Bush's win of 2004. They don't listen closely or clearly to what he says; no they do a little tap dance as tho they are gladiators with remote controls controlling the President (since "they helped him win") and then play emotional blackmail games when he exercises his options. The President is not a droid "for hire" by those who helped win his election. I know it is utterly SHOCKING for some people to kin this.

So, like angry, thwarted children, they flip off these little self-revelatory bon mots as a projectory at the President.

Who looks foolish? Not the President.

65 posted on 10/09/2005 3:30:34 PM PDT by Alia
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To: Yonkers Finest

Pat Buchanan and his buddy, "Red" Lenora Fulani the Commie.

'Nuff said.

66 posted on 10/09/2005 3:49:51 PM PDT by veronica ("clowns clones clowns/ it's raining clowns/snarling FR obsessed clones/ claws bared clowns"...)
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To: Yonkers Finest
Pat Buchanan is a true Patriot but Jim Robinson seems to think otherwise and deems him a traitor.

You have the right to deem Pat Buchanan any way you please. Just know that many, many, many people do not share your views about him.

I wouldn't piss on him if he were on fire. I find him disgusting.


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67 posted on 10/09/2005 4:45:06 PM PDT by rdb3 (Have you ever stopped to think, but forgot to start again?)
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To: Alia
So, like angry, thwarted children, they flip off these little self-revelatory bon mots as a projectory at the President.

Interesting comment. Very interesting.


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68 posted on 10/09/2005 5:00:01 PM PDT by rdb3 (Have you ever stopped to think, but forgot to start again?)
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To: rdb3
My favorite ones for study?

The ones saying.. he failed on Miers, he failed on immigration, he failed on x,y, or z, so let's pull our troops out of Iraq and stop the WOT. Those were beauts; prime examples of something which I dare not utter.. lol.

69 posted on 10/09/2005 5:13:07 PM PDT by Alia
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To: rdb3

lol! The gif is perfect.


70 posted on 10/09/2005 5:19:23 PM PDT by Alia
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To: veronica
"Pat Buchanan and his buddy, "Red" Lenora Fulani the Commie"

Veronica my dear.. I see your still at it.. so let me ask you a question... do you know that both you and Dr. Fulani have many of the same thoughts in regards to Bill Clinton??? Does that make you a commie??? ;-)

p.s. do you know more then I, are Dr. Fulani and Pat still in contact???? Or did you miss the fact that their "friendship" was a political thing only, due to them both being in the Reform Party at that time frame...

71 posted on 10/09/2005 5:57:26 PM PDT by Refinersfire
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To: Jim Robinson

I'll tell you what, pal. Please provide me with some sort of link or text that demonstrates Pat openly siding with communists and terrorists or protesting against America and our troops. If this is as you say I'll glady eat my words and apologize.

Just spare me of some lame transcript from MSNBC that has Pat criticizing Bush. Being critical of this president/war/administration does not mean that they hate America nor does it make them any less of a patriot and I am completely fed up with that nonsense being peddled around like the gospel.


72 posted on 10/09/2005 6:10:32 PM PDT by Yonkers Finest
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To: Yonkers Finest
You're the expert on Pat's opinions. You tell me. Where does Patrick Buchanan stand on the war. Is he with us or with the enemy. There is no in between.
73 posted on 10/09/2005 6:14:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Yonkers Finest; Jim Robinson
"Being critical of this president/war/administration does not mean that they hate America"

Please allow me to take your comment one step more.. During the Clinton years, many upon many on this website (I include myself in that statement) were critical of Bill Clinton's actions and ideas.. if one paints with such a wide brush as has been done on this thread.. one could just as easy say that those who spoke against Clinton, were "communists and terrorists".. but then again.. it all comes down to who's ox is being gored.. doesn't it... :-(

74 posted on 10/09/2005 6:17:00 PM PDT by Refinersfire
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To: Jim Robinson

He's stated many times that he doesn't believe that this war is being fought for the right reasons. He's stated that this war was not the best move in the war on terror. Patrick Buchanan has made it perfectly clear that he does not support this war. Being critical, because you honestly feel that the country you love so much is being jeopardized because of bad decision making is not siding with the enemy as you so plainly like to put it.

Still waiting to see those pics of Pat marching against the troops by the way.....

Also can someone call Generals Zinni and Schwarzkopf. Tell them that they're nothing but commie terrorist scum because I'm pretty sure I heard them being critical of the war somewhere along the line.


75 posted on 10/09/2005 6:31:19 PM PDT by Yonkers Finest
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To: Jim Robinson

"Is he with us or with the enemy. There is no in between."

Jim,

I know that you are not a dumb person in any means, but to dis-allow the third option does not look well upon you.. for there is the middle option, of being against both sides of an issue and having one's own thoughts.. and the facts could just as easy back up that option, in regards to the actions of those who struck us on 9/11 and that this White House "overlooked/missed" facts that show that Iraq was not as big a threat as the White House stated..

For while I will agree that the leadership of Iraq "might" have attacked us head-on, if given the chance.. in all truthfulness, I didn't see that happening, as their style was more of pick and choose their targets, based on what they could gain from it.. and attacking us, would have been their downfall as has been shown by this war...


76 posted on 10/09/2005 6:37:43 PM PDT by Refinersfire
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To: Refinersfire; Yonkers Finest
Got news for you guys. This forum (or at least the people I'm trying to attract to it) supports America, supports the president, supports our military, and supports the war against terrorism. And that includes supporting the war against terrorism in Iraq.

We are not fond of traitors like Jane Fonda, or John Kerry, or Cindy Sheehan, or Michael Moore, or Walter Cronkite, or the left-wing media, or the liberal Democrats. We consider these people the domestic enemy. In case it's escaped your notice, we on this forum and in our chapters all across the nation protest against these leftist traitors at every opportunity we get. Lew Rockwell has joined this traitorous mob that is demonstrating against America and as far as I am concerned, that makes him part of the enemy. We will not allow the left to turn this war into another political loss like they did Vietnam.

Those who side with the terrorists or with the left or with International Answer, et al, and or otherwise provide aid and comfort to the enemy are not welcome on FR. Very sorry if that bothers you or frustrates you or makes you feel uncomfortable. That's just the way it is.

We allow plenty of room for valid criticism and dissent on FR, but those who come right out and denounce America and or pledge support for the enemy, like some of our friends here have in the past, will be zotted. Again, if that bothers you, too bad. Perhaps if it bothers you too much, you might consider a site somewhere else that's more to your liking.

77 posted on 10/09/2005 6:54:59 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Refinersfire

Right. How about spewing the leftist talking points? If you cannot see for yourself that Saddam Hussein himself was a bloody terrorist and with nukes or other weapons of mass destruction his fascist regime would be a threat to the entire region and a direct threat to our allies and to our national interests and therefore a threat to the entire world then you're not nearly as smart as some people may have mistakenly given you credit for.


78 posted on 10/09/2005 7:05:50 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Yonkers Finest

Yeah, he's stated it. And he's flat out wrong. And that's not just my opinion. Why is Pat Buchanan where he is today and George W Bush the Commander in Chief? And we can all thank God for that.


79 posted on 10/09/2005 7:16:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

"Got news for you guys. This forum (or at least the people I'm trying to attract to it) supports America, supports the president, supports our military, and supports the war against terrorism. And that includes supporting the war against terrorism in Iraq."

Jim.. guess what.. I support America.. hell, many in my family has given their blood in doing so, including this lastest action in Iraq.. so please don't act as if you or anyone else has a corner on that market.. as for the President, I'll only support him or anyone who holds that office, when he acts in a proper manner in regards to the Constitution.. which is my first duty to uphold and honor, in regards to this manner.. as for the Military... look above..

"We are not fond of traitors like Jane Fonda, or John Kerry, or Cindy Sheehan, or Michael Moore, or Walter Cronkite, or the left-wing media, or the liberal Democrats. We consider these people the domestic enemy. In case it's escaped your notice, we on this forum and in our chapters all across the nation protest against these leftist traitors at every opportunity we get. Lew Rockwell has joined this traitorous mob that is demonstrating against America and as far as I am concerned, that makes him part of the enemy. We will not allow the left to turn this war into another political loss like they did Vietnam."

Again, you are not the only ones that act on behalf of this country in doing said actions.. as for the "political loss" issue, from where I sit, one can not place that blame on the left this time.. it sits with this White House and their own misdeeds.. the President should have fired more then a couple of his staff on many different matters.. But that is just MHO..

"Those who side with the terrorists or with the left or with International Answer, et al, and or otherwise provide aid and comfort to the enemy are not welcome on FR. Very sorry if that bothers you or frustrates you or makes you feel uncomfortable. That's just the way it is."

Choosing to not side with either side does NOT place one on a side other then their own.. as for the "brother or frustrate" issue, what gives.. I thought we were having an honest debate of the issue...????

"We allow plenty of room for valid criticism and dissent on FR, """"but those who come right out and denounce America and or pledge support for the enemy"""", like some of our friends here have in the past, will be zotted. Again, if that bothers you, too bad. Perhaps if it bothers you too much, you might consider a site somewhere else that's more to your liking."

Has this been done by the other poster you are addressing in your post, I know I haven't... so it has no bearing in this debate as far as I am concerned..


80 posted on 10/09/2005 7:23:50 PM PDT by Refinersfire
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