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lol! "unconstitutional for us to have a standing army". LOL! I guess they only posit that each household is its own standing army. Guess if a town were under attack, they'd have to argue against these families coming together to defend themselves.

The US Military is exactly the logical extension of this.

In re the socialism charge against the military. This subject has always held great fascination for me since I was a teenager. I heard it "way" back then given where I was raised.

To a point, the charge is correct; but its a stretch. Yes, the military does have to have what appears to be a socialistic "flavor" in order to have "unit cohesion". And yes, we do pay taxes to pay those in the military to defend us.

When I hear that argument in the here-and-now, I usually ask the "spewer" to tell me what defense of me -- those on the public dole are providing -- how do any of these defend or further my liberties and freedoms.

They get upset, and want to change the subject.

I compare a homeless person getting benefits from Uncle Sam to the military (defending my liberties) -- and they get hysterical that I would dare compare the two.

This tells me, how little thought is involved in what they spew about the military being "socialist". lol.

I haven't heard a single story about anyone on the dole going down to New Orleans to help out, have you?

Libertarians have "big gun" envy, and Socialists have "envy" of everyone and everything, period.