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Report due in Able Danger probe
The Washington Times ^ | 10/5/2005 | Rowan Scarborough

Posted on 10/05/2005 7:19:45 AM PDT by vadkins

The Senate Intelligence Committee has taken closed-door statements in an inquiry that could clear up whether the intelligence program Able Danger identified September 11 hijacker Mohamed Atta a year before the attack. A spokesman said yesterday that the committee likely will release a report or a statement in the next two weeks that makes conclusions, or at least determines the facts. Most of the attention on Able Danger has come from the Senate Judiciary Committee, which already has conducted one public hearing on the intelligence-collection program. It is now asking the Pentagon to allow personnel associated with Able Danger, such as defense intelligence analyst Anthony Shaffer and Navy Capt. Scott Philpott, to testify in public about how Atta was purportedly identified. But a final verdict could come sooner from the intelligence committee, based on closed-door briefings already provided by Mr. Shaffer, Capt. Philpott and Pentagon officials.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 109th; abledanger; atta; billgertz; butmonkey; clintonlegacy; coverup; cyapolicy; kneepadbrigade; lapdogmedia; mediabias; mohammadatta; pentagon; propaganda; rowanscarborough; waronterror; weldon; whitewash
The Strata-Sphere has response/analysis:

All this is a desparate attempt by DC insiders to sweep an uncomfortable event under a convenient rug - the Intelligence Committee.

1 posted on 10/05/2005 7:19:49 AM PDT by vadkins
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To: vadkins

Ever hear the term whitewash.

In 2025 maybe we will finally be able to read what really happended to Kennedy. It was suppose to be out long ago but keeps getting hidden for "National Security" so, my guess is my son in 2050 might get to read what really happended in Able Danger.


2 posted on 10/05/2005 7:45:35 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: vadkins

Was/is "Able Danger" exposing more than only a warning label?


3 posted on 10/05/2005 7:51:13 AM PDT by prognostigaator
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To: edcoil
"In 2025 maybe we will finally be able to read what really happened to Kennedy. It was suppose to be out long ago but keeps getting hidden for "National Security"

The Swimmer and his best bud Frenchie Boy are still with us. I wouldn't look for the records on President Kennedy's assignation to come out until after they've both passed on to the hereafter. And then it probably wont be the truth of what really happened.

4 posted on 10/05/2005 8:33:17 AM PDT by GloriaJane (http://music.download.com/gloriajane "Seems Like Our Press Has Turned Against Our Country")
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To: vadkins
I've had a note posted on my computer for over a week now to remind me that THERE WAS TO BE HEARINGS BEGINNING AGAIN TODAY ON C-SPAN ON ABLE DANGER. At least that is what I thought because I wouldn't have posted a note otherwise.

Was I wrong?

5 posted on 10/05/2005 8:34:17 AM PDT by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: vadkins

More cover-up BS we want the truth.


6 posted on 10/05/2005 9:02:53 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU and all Mosques in the US,UK.)
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To: Spunky

No you were right.
By keeping AD out of the news and constantly changing the rules the powers that be are hoping this will all go away it's our job to make sure it doesn't.


7 posted on 10/05/2005 9:04:43 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU and all Mosques in the US,UK.)
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To: Spunky

I heard/read a blurb on Fox News bottom of the screen ticker a few days ago, that the Able Danger meeting had been postponed because of Rosh Hoshanah...

SO... I think perhaps that might be true...there hasn't been much going on anywhere in Washington this week yet...

However, does Curt Weldon have a website that somone could e-mail and ask him???


8 posted on 10/05/2005 10:05:16 AM PDT by Txsleuth (Mike Pence - George Allen for POTUS!!!!)
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To: Peach

ping....still don't know about any hearing yet, though.


9 posted on 10/05/2005 10:06:04 AM PDT by Txsleuth (Mike Pence - George Allen for POTUS!!!!)
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To: vadkins; All

Say good bye to Able Danger, it's dead. Weldon will no longer push, it appears that he has received his hush money....

http://curtweldon.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=35012


10 posted on 10/05/2005 10:25:50 AM PDT by frankjr
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To: Txsleuth

Thanks for the ping; this seems to be headed for a big black hole. Weldon cannot be pleased.


11 posted on 10/05/2005 10:43:58 AM PDT by Peach (Go Yankees!)
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To: frankjr

Haven't heard anything more from the Jerseys girls about Able Danger, either. I bet they received another round of settlement checks at the end of last month to shut them up.


12 posted on 10/05/2005 10:48:40 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Peach

It appears that Weldon sold out for the Osprey.


13 posted on 10/05/2005 10:49:24 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: frankjr; Peach

I just spoke with someone at Weldon's office...he said that the Able Danger meeting was postponed due to Rosh Hashanah...did not know new date...

When I asked if Con. Weldon was just as intent of following through...he wanted my name, phone #.... I told him I was on Free Republic and that we noticed the new contract from the Pentagon...and that there was concern about a possible buy off....

AND, that if this isn't true, that perhaps Weldon might want to put out a press release before it is assumed more and more.

I ended up giving him my address, name and phone #....because I told him that I respected what Weldon was doing, and that he has a lot of people pulling for him out here...


14 posted on 10/05/2005 11:09:16 AM PDT by Txsleuth (Mike Pence - George Allen for POTUS!!!!)
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To: Txsleuth

"I ended up giving him my address, name and phone #"

If we never hear from you again, we will know what happened.

/scarasm (I hope)


15 posted on 10/05/2005 11:12:00 AM PDT by frankjr
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To: frankjr

Please, keep this information handy, just in case....LOL

So far, I have given my address to both of my Senators and my Congressman, and all I have gotten is letters...

Let's hope that trend continues.....


16 posted on 10/05/2005 11:16:40 AM PDT by Txsleuth (Mike Pence - George Allen for POTUS!!!!)
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To: Txsleuth

make that "/sarcasm"...i always spell it wrong.

I bet they don't put out a press release on Able Danger and the Osprey because that will ensure people put the two together. It could just be coincidence that after all of these years Osprey has been dead that it was revived around the same time as the AD hearings.


17 posted on 10/05/2005 11:18:12 AM PDT by frankjr
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To: Txsleuth

Very good job, Txsleuth! Thank you so much for doing that.


18 posted on 10/05/2005 11:22:44 AM PDT by Peach (Go Yankees!)
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To: jimbo123
It appears that Weldon sold out for the Osprey.

What does that mean?

19 posted on 10/05/2005 11:26:07 AM PDT by Peach (Go Yankees!)
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To: frankjr; Peach

I hope so....I hope it is a coincidence...but I made it clear to the person at his office that there are rumblings...so Weldon better at least announce a rescheduled date for the next Able Danger hearing...

even if it is behind closed doors, and we can't see/hear it---I want to know that it happens and when.

THEN, we will have more of an idea (I hope) if it will be
buried or not.

Peach, I don't usually call offices other than my own congresscritters...but I hate the idea that Weldon would back out for an Osprey AFTER having Lt. Schaeffer and the others "out" themselves.....

That would make me furious!!!


20 posted on 10/05/2005 11:29:54 AM PDT by Txsleuth (Mike Pence - George Allen for POTUS!!!!)
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To: Txsleuth

Txsleuth - what does this mean about the Osprey? Color me clueless.

I'm a little under the weather today so am not focusing, but I'm clearly missing something. bbl


21 posted on 10/05/2005 11:32:27 AM PDT by Peach (Go Yankees!)
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To: Peach

LOL----maybe the Able Danger hearing couldn't take place because of Rosh Hashanah....

but, I just turned to c-span 1 ---and the Senate is having a hearing this afternoon on greenhouse gases and their effect on the environment!!!

(rolling eyes, here!)...


22 posted on 10/05/2005 11:34:00 AM PDT by Txsleuth (Mike Pence - George Allen for POTUS!!!!)
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To: rodguy911
No Able Danger info... no OK suicide-bomber info... but a call to use the military in case of a bird-flu epidemic.
23 posted on 10/05/2005 11:49:37 AM PDT by johnny7 (ďNah, I ainít Jewish, I just donít dig on swine, thatís all.Ē)
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To: Peach

Osprey is the new military VTOL prop plane


24 posted on 10/05/2005 1:35:29 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: adam_az

And so did Weldon give up on Able Danger in exchange for getting something passed? I don't understand what people are alluding to here.


25 posted on 10/05/2005 1:44:16 PM PDT by Peach (Go Yankees!)
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To: vadkins

"Mr. Shaffer and Capt. Philpott contend Able Danger identified Atta in 2000 as being linked to al Qaeda. A Pentagon investigation failed to turn up any document that supports their contention"

Great. Destroy every document, then use the fact that there are no documents as evidence that it never happened.


26 posted on 10/05/2005 4:22:25 PM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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To: vadkins

""We're hard-pressed to send witnesses to testify in open session about a program that the other committees who have investigated have respected the classification aspects," a Bush administration official said. "

I defy any person or computer to analyze the sentence and extract the meaning.


27 posted on 10/05/2005 4:24:16 PM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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To: vadkins

"At the Senate Judiciary hearing last month, one of the men who destroyed the papers offered what appeared to be an innocent explanation: A Pentagon policy to protect privacy dictates that intelligence information on U.S. citizens be destroyed after 90 days unless the data has law-enforcement value. "

Of course,none of the terrorists were US citizens. But since they were operating in the U. S., practically all of the information included references to US citizens. for example, if they stayed in a hotel, most of the other people in the hotel were Americans. If they rented a car, they rented a car from an American.

Hence, all of the information needed to be destroyed. In addition, although the Al Qaeda individuals in question were suspected of planning a terrorist operation, there was not sufficient evidence for this to indict them in a court of law. Hence, all information needed to be destroyed 90 days after it was collected. Some innocent sounding explanation!!!!!


28 posted on 10/05/2005 4:29:35 PM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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To: Peach
Delaware County, PA is home to the Boeing Helicopter plant. Bell-Textron and Boeing Helicopters are partners in the V22 program. The V22 is at least 20 years in the making, and has been close to the military spending chopping block a number of times - due to expense, a number of deadly mishaps during its flight test program, and unusual characteristics of the craft. Weldon has of course backed the V22 program, it is very good for his constituents.

Generally, lots of people and lots of time are involved in a decision like this, and a significant paper trail would be in place to support a bona fide decision. If a considered decision to kill the V22 were to be suddenly flipped by an unseen hand, then one might have reason to suspect some foul play. Absent evidence of a sudden reversal, I would doubt that the contract was let for Weldon's peace.

From what I've seen, the V22 is an excellent vehicle, and provides a unique mission capability, and is wanted by the Marines. But it is expensive per copy ($70 million or so), and so has been a large political target.

29 posted on 10/09/2005 3:09:59 PM PDT by GregoryFul
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