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Student rebuked for sitting during Mexican anthem
The Daily Herald ^ | 10/6/2005 | Tara Malone

Posted on 10/06/2005 6:20:04 AM PDT by DogBarkTree

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To: kenth; gubamyster; RaceBannon; firebrand
Thanks for the link. Wish I had read the entire thread rather than waste time hunting down their address.

I reminded the principal that a sure way to destroy America is to teach multiculturalism and encourage immigrants to maintain their own culture and language. No nation can survive tension, conflict and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. Bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension and tragedy.

Canada, Belgium, Malaysia and Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. France has their hands full with the Basques, Corsicans and Bretons and Pakistan and Cyprus have divided.

While these liberals preach that they're simply making newcomers to this country "feel at home", they're in fact promoting divided loyalties. Let's starts celebrating unity, not diversity by honoring the same flag, singing the same anthem and speaking the same language.

62 posted on 10/06/2005 8:13:53 AM PDT by StarFan
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To: Sgt_Schultze
The strength of America used to be the "melting pot" where immigrants would Americanize.

The melting pot metaphor has been replaced with the salad bowl metaphor where all are encouraged to keep their own language and culture to insure we have various culture subgroups living in America enforcing their differences rather than as Americans emhasizing our similarities.

63 posted on 10/06/2005 8:21:37 AM PDT by StarFan
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To: Phantom Lord
I disagree in one way I can think of. If you go to an NHL game with a Canadian team they will play the Canadian anthem. It is only proper to stand for it.

Yes, I thought of the Hockey-analogy as well. But here's the other side of that analogy: Though up to half the players of any NHL matchup may be Canadian, we only play the Canadian anthem when a Canadian-based team is playing. I think I'm right about that, but it may vary by the arena.

I think our local AHL team (Hershey Bears) always plays the Canadian anthem regardless of who is playing.

64 posted on 10/06/2005 8:31:19 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: DogBarkTree

My daughter teaches high school and says that the Mexican students will not recite - or even stand up out of courtesy for - the pledge of allegiance.


65 posted on 10/06/2005 8:32:51 AM PDT by TexasKamaAina
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To: stuartcr
Would a foreign national in our country, be expected to stand for our anthem? I think courtesy should extend beyond national boundaries.

Don't try to talk sense to them, they're on their three-minutes hate.

SD

66 posted on 10/06/2005 8:34:50 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Tallguy
Though up to half the players of any NHL matchup may be Canadian, we only play the Canadian anthem when a Canadian-based team is playing. I think I'm right about that, but it may vary by the arena.

Yes, that's correct. The point here is that we are not at war with Mexico, they are an ally. There is no reason a boy should fear jeopardizing his military enlistment by respecting the national anthem of an ally.

Now, if there are other underlying tensions going on, that's different. But his excuse is BS.

SD

67 posted on 10/06/2005 8:38:36 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: DogBarkTree

The boy should have told the principal to bend over so he could show him where to store the Mexican flag!


68 posted on 10/06/2005 8:41:34 AM PDT by Herakles
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To: stevio
What does 'cabrones' mean?

Growing up in San Diego, it was always fun to listen to folks in Mexican restuarants tyring to order shrip (cammarones) and ordering bastards.

What fries with that?

69 posted on 10/06/2005 8:56:51 AM PDT by pikachu (Be Alert! We need more lerts!)
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To: StarFan

http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=45189

In support of your post, I offer the following thread on F/D.


70 posted on 10/06/2005 9:11:12 AM PDT by albertabound (It's good to beeeeee Albertabound)
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To: StarFan

My biggest problem was the reprimand. Courtesy is one thing, requiring the kid to honor another country's anthem and flag in our own country or face punishment is beyond the pale.

Try enforcing mandates that a child stand and honor our own flag and anthem, or Pledge of Allegiance, and see how willing these school administrators are, not to mention how quickly the ACLU would be on site.


71 posted on 10/06/2005 9:12:18 AM PDT by kenth (There were only a few thousand hippies marching, but it smelled like half a million.)
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To: reagan_fanatic

Reminds me of the flap of a couple of years ago - Linda Ronstadt had booked at a casino in Las Vegas and the venue was clearly marked as featureing her album music from "Mas Canciones" and "Canciones de Mi Padre".

Folks stormed out demanding a refund because she was singing something other than rock. Spare me. I'm sorry, but how stupid can folks get?
(And yes, I am aware of the 2004 Alladin incident.)

That said, any music you are not used to sounds strange. I am just now getting my head around the whole Zydeco/Cajun thing - cool stuff for the most part.



72 posted on 10/06/2005 9:15:27 AM PDT by ASOC (Insert clever tagline here: _______)
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To: SoothingDave

It wasn't a matter of courtesy if not standing in honor of their flag and anthem got the young man a reprimand. It then became a requirement.


73 posted on 10/06/2005 9:16:14 AM PDT by kenth (There were only a few thousand hippies marching, but it smelled like half a million.)
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To: DogBarkTree
the vast majority of students are Mexican-American.”

It's a shame that they are not just American. I am sick of hyphenated Americans. Our culture and unity is being systematically destroyed. See my tag line

74 posted on 10/06/2005 9:23:35 AM PDT by Colorado Doug (Diversity is divisive. E. Pluribus Unum (Out of many, one))
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To: DogBarkTree

He should have thrown baggies full of urine. That's acceptable isn't it?


75 posted on 10/06/2005 9:25:03 AM PDT by FreedomSurge
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To: albertabound
This multiculturism is wrecking this country. It's precisely the reason we have the problems we have today! We have to cater to every minority, where is the concept of majority rules? We have lost a lot of freedoms because of this. Free speech for example. We MUST NOT OFFEND anyone! We have to be tolerant! Since when can we not wish people A Merry Christmas for example! This country was founded on Judeo-Christian values.

My goodness, our forefathers must be rolling in their graves. It's not the vision they had for Canada. When immigrants come to this country, they must recognise and abide by our laws and values, not us theirs. The exact opposite is the fact in some other countries. You go there, you must abide by their laws and values. I respect that just as others should respect what was and still should be Canadian laws and values.

Good grief. If you substitute "US" for "Canada", our fears and concerns are identical. Thanks for the link.

76 posted on 10/06/2005 9:33:22 AM PDT by StarFan
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To: SoothingDave

Rgr that...


77 posted on 10/06/2005 9:37:27 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: DogBarkTree
Good for this young man.

This sh-t has been going on in public schools for years. I know that in many public schools in South Florida they play the "black national anthem" ("lift every voice") during black history month.

78 posted on 10/06/2005 9:39:15 AM PDT by Clemenza (Gentlemen, Behold!)
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To: kenth
It wasn't a matter of courtesy if not standing in honor of their flag and anthem got the young man a reprimand. It then became a requirement.

A school should, of course, be able to "require" courtesy. As you note, this should apply to our own flag as well.

SD

79 posted on 10/06/2005 10:07:08 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Doesn't this kid know the correct way to honor Mexico day is to spit on the crowd and throw empty beer bottles?

I think they also invented the plastic bag piss bomb - this is a staple at Mexican sporting events where access to restrooms is limited or non-existent

80 posted on 10/06/2005 10:17:08 AM PDT by Pa' fuera (I support family reunification.......through deportation)
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