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Man saves grandson from coyote
Daily News ...Boston Herald ^ | October 6, 2005 | Lisa Gentes

Posted on 10/06/2005 7:04:45 PM PDT by george76

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To: george76
...the cause of the attack is undetermined, but it was unprovoked. The female coyote may have been protecting her pups...


Assumptions are the mother of all f'ups. Coyotes attack because that is what they do. Wether it be protecting pups, protecting territory, prey, etc. This is the reason they are a "shoot on sight, 365 days a year" animal here in PA.
121 posted on 10/19/2005 11:00:27 AM PDT by kx9088
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To: PoorMuttly; apackof2

Well yer gonna hate me for this Dr Muttly..... I had the 329PD magnaported after I saw a recent gun rag article that said it took the bite out of the critter....

Well it did indeed. With 240gr factory Hornaday fodder it shoots like a 357 magnum and is very easy to plink with and you'll grin and wet yer diaper when ya shoot 44 specials in it....almost light 38 special wadcutter like in recoil using the 200 gr GDHP's from CCI Blazer. I have found my perfect carry rig I think for woods and wheeling and the day the old 1911A1 gets too heavy for urban excusrions to the gedunk'n go trips at Oh dark thirty.....

The dual magnaport vents work so well that I had to look at the ammo again to make sure I hadn't loaded it with light 44 special target loads...... Awesome modification for a 44 mag.

And it isn't like a brake that is LOUD...ER it is just a recoil reducer and blast / noise remains normal for a 44 mag.....

I am gonna have to play with it at night to ensure I don;t get the flashbulb blinding that some ported handguns and ammo has. I may have to work up a load that has zero flash and that is a perfectly possible thing as I have done it for my 357SIG calibers of my comped glock and it works well, allowing one to maintain their nightvision during a dark event......


122 posted on 10/19/2005 11:37:37 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos
..not hate...this makes a good horserace...and good field of discussion.....but then again, not sure if apackof2 realizes we are dealing with a person who is fond of his .460 Weatherby rifle....the famous one which African trackers run behind to get away from the so loud it hurts thunder coming out of its perforated muzzle.

Ok...there are probably variations in pistol porting, forward facing holes, all sorts of things -- I have to nod to your experience, and approve of your particular design. As long as it does not puff into Muttly's face (we hate that), or make his ears stand on end. Setting fire to his whiskers is right out.

Michulek's speedshooting was done with a compensated revolver, but held straight out in front. The more velocity going past it, the better the ports work. I heard that they are especially good in 10mm.

As you point out, self inflicted night blindness is a consideration too...perhaps a major one. I just like the idea of sending all my havoc downrange, where stuff is supposed to get messed up, sound-wise and everything. Just a Muttly idiosyncrasy. It may interest you to know that me have such things, as a concession to regular people, so they think I am not perfect. I work at it, as a public service. Semi-Benevolent Absolute Dogspotism is like that, all heart and consideration for the little people. We know which side our kibble is buttered by, and on whom. Technically.
123 posted on 10/19/2005 12:49:13 PM PDT by PoorMuttly (A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun -T.Jefferson)
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To: PoorMuttly
You are one special packette! What a totally right decision.

Does this mean I get an A+?

I was having trouble resigning myself to your being one more .357-armed dreamer out in the muttly-devouring woods, thinking she was effectively armed because it go boom, and has "Magnum" printed on it.

And rightly so......about having trouble.......cuz it wasn't true.....Packette knows from your tutelage that adequate penetration is the foremost demand....when wild daisy picking in the lovely butterfly woods

Me feel better now.

Me too

124 posted on 10/19/2005 7:41:28 PM PDT by apackof2 (There's two theories to arguin' with a woman. Neither one works. Will Rogers)
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To: PoorMuttly; Squantos
but then again, not sure if apackof2 realizes we are dealing with a person who is fond of his .460 Weatherby rifle..

Does now……WOW, I say

460 Weatherby Magnum

Introduced in 1958. Considered to be the world’s largest, most powerful shoulder-fired cartridge, the .460 shoots a 500 grain bullet at 2,600 fps, delivering an incredible 7,507 foot pounds of muzzle energy. That’s 50 percent more energy than the .458 Winchester. Heavy recoil to be sure, but few hunters who need to stop a charging Rhino or Cape Buffalo complain. Nearly four tons of smashing power make the .460 the only choice for Africa’s most dangerous game. .460 Weatherby Magnum is available in Mark V Deluxe.

Does Squatos live by charging Rhinos? LOL

I am gonna have to play with it at night to ensure I don;t get the flashbulb blinding that some ported handguns and ammo has. I may have to work up a load that has zero flash and that is a perfectly possible thing as I have done it for my 357SIG calibers of my comped glock and it works well, allowing one to maintain their nightvision during a dark event......

Can we expect an after action report?…….please & thank you

125 posted on 10/19/2005 7:54:48 PM PDT by apackof2 (There's two theories to arguin' with a woman. Neither one works. Will Rogers)
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To: PoorMuttly
but i will have to conduct further experiments on that to be sure.

Please post After Action Report, with pictures of course, upon completion of experiment and ping appropriate persons

126 posted on 10/19/2005 8:01:24 PM PDT by apackof2 (There's two theories to arguin' with a woman. Neither one works. Will Rogers)
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To: apackof2; Squantos
Wowie wow-wow (and etcetera).

Not only do you get an A+, but you have now risen to the post of Dean of Muttly University!

I am astounded that you did not get lost in all the technicalities and wishful tinkering around, and picked up the salient point...penetration is almost everything, and is all that can be relied upon. I have collected the real practical "using" experiences from soldiers, hunters, and police for all of my life, and added my own experiences, with reading too...and of late, the statements of pathologist Fackler loom large.....without penetration, even your 12ga. may not stop a determined attacker. Knowing something about the tenacity of people and animals, it becomes less surprising to read that a 12ga. charge of birdshot to the abdomen may cause a ghastly wound, but may not STOP in time. Causing the death of your adversary is not the mission....preventing bodily harm to YOU is. He has literally seen it all. When you see what actually happened...one gains practical wisdom. Writers tout the XTP or whatever expanding JHP in .25acp. It never arrives at a necessary structure then. FMJ "ball" may, at least it has the best chance at doing so, therefore perhaps doing some damage beyond shallow wounding....from which your killer may succumb several days later, from infection.

Do we need extreme velocity to penetrate, even expand? NO. Weight. Does less velocity lessen effectiveness at longer ranges? No, providing the projectile has enough weight, delivered foot-pounds increase over lighter projectiles'. What is the most popular-selling weight range of current ammunition, including what the all-wise military are using? Light bullets going fast. What is the result? Often, Failure to Stop. Remember, the military equipment world changed with the revolutionary Vietnam era doctrine of the ballistic free lunch, casting away thousands of years of human, martial and hunting history. "This here plastic (original stocks made by Mattel Toy Company) machinegun can spray mass quantities of squirrel-huntin' bullets into the bushes where the enemy probably is, and almost any weak and reluctant draftee (cannon fodder) can endure its easy recoil, carry tons of ammunition (which goes BANG loud, in a hollow plastic gun) and not even have to aim it well, because the tiny bullets are so unstable that as soon as they hit virtually anything, including a paper target (see for yourself!) they flop over and rip a sideways wound while breaking apart...which could really hurt...so when the enemy hears the screams of pain, they will all run away, or to the aid if their fallen sufferer....where we will drop a net on them, and win the war. Shame on us. We even use the pistol cartridge our fallen foe lost two world wars to us while using...the 9mm Luger, FMJ.

America found out what works, first with round balls and flintlock rifles, .44/.45 (and up) caliber handguns and rifles, then higher velocity jacketed rifle rounds, and that's where our success stopped. The .45acp works so well because it is heavy, slow, and big...does not need expansion to make a big hole, probably deep enough too, at 230 grains weight, and at pistol velocities. It is only a pistol, but a hell of a pistol. It worked, too...not only in theory. But it is Daddy's Gun, and one has to stand up to it. It is not a .38 plinker. Our rifles were .30 caliber and powerful. They didn't need pin-like depleted uranium cores to get through a car door and bust up a Nazi. The ammunition was heavy, and kicked ass every time. It killed. It stopped. It didn't usually take multiple hits to the torso to eventually put the enemy down, as our M16 carbines have in the desert recently. That's why we're developing a .270 caliber war fighting cartridge now....something like the AK round, only better. The .270 is our famous Western hunting bullet, second only to our pre-WWI vintage .30'06, adopted into our military by Theodore Roosevelt (who knew something about wilderness survival and war fighting)and later the similar .308 Win. Our new proposed round is closer to the 7x57 Mauser of the 1890s, which did a pretty good job on us at San Juan and Kettle Hill, when our Rough Riders, cowboys and the sons of slaves, stormed the hilltop cannons and rifles.

As in car crash survival, big and heavy wins the race.

You may now pull the lanyard and fire the Official Muttly University cannon, starting the semester.

(T.R. let his children do this every evening at sundown at his home, while they lowered the flag.)

Let Freedom RING.
127 posted on 10/20/2005 9:25:29 AM PDT by PoorMuttly (A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun -T.Jefferson)
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To: PoorMuttly
As in car crash survival, big and heavy wins the race.

Truth

You may now pull the lanyard and fire the Official Muttly University cannon, starting the semester.

Will do!

(T.R. let his children do this every evening at sundown at his home, while they lowered the flag.)

I adore T.R.,....an American orginal
Currently reading, "Mornings on Horseback" by D. McCullough about T.R.'s upbringing...excellent read

128 posted on 10/23/2005 6:30:17 AM PDT by apackof2 (There's two theories to arguin' with a woman. Neither one works. Will Rogers)
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To: george76

From: Ed Chenel, A police officer in Australia
>
> Hi Yanks, I thought you all would like to see the real figures
> from Down Under. It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia
> were forced by a new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be
> destroyed by our own government, a program costing Australia
> taxpayers more than $500 million dollars.
>
> The first year results are now in: Australia-wide, homicides
> are up 6.2 percent, Australia-wide, assaults are up 9.6 percent ;
> Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)!
> In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up
> 300 percent. (Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in,
> the criminals did not! and criminals still possess their guns!)
>
> While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in
> armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in
> the past 12 months, since the criminals now are guaranteed that
> their prey is unarmed. There has also been a dramatic increase in
> break-ins and assaults of the elderly, while the resident is at home.
>
> Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has
> decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in
> "successfully ridding Australian society of guns." You won't see this on
> the American evening news or hear your governor or members of the
> State Assembly disseminating this information.
>
> The Australian experience speaks for itself. Guns in the hands of honest
> citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws affect only
> the law-abiding citizens.
>
> Take note Americans, before it's too late!
>
> FORWARD TO EVERYONE ON YOUR EMAIL LIST. [I DID ]
> DON'T BE A MEMBER OF THE SILENT MAJORITY.
> BE ONE OF THE VOCAL MINORITY WHO WON'T LET THIS HAPPEN IN THE U.S.A


129 posted on 03/22/2006 1:06:49 PM PST by B4Ranch (The truth is good for you, like sunlight, but too much all at once can really hurt.)
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To: PoorMuttly
Wear bells and make yourself taste nasty with taco sauc....uh...pepper spray...so they'll be real sick after they get through eating you. That'll get 'em. If'n ya cain't deter them on the way in, mayhaps ya kin burn 'em on the way out!
130 posted on 11/02/2009 7:53:43 AM PST by Titan Magroyne (Freedom is taken, not given.)
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