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Man saves grandson from coyote
Daily News ...Boston Herald ^ | October 6, 2005 | Lisa Gentes

Posted on 10/06/2005 7:04:45 PM PDT by george76

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To: IrishCatholic

I don't know the answer to that. All I know is that regardless of the reason, coyotes are not as docile as some on this post are leading you on to believe. if they are hungry, they will hunt and if they feel they have the upper edge on whatever prey is in front of them the they will attack. Be careful and keep an eye on yours.


61 posted on 10/06/2005 8:30:41 PM PDT by Montana4Jesus
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To: Rembrandt

Yay!!! I love Freepers, they're sooo smart.


62 posted on 10/06/2005 8:31:40 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Montana4Jesus

The firemen responded very quickly to arrive while the 70+ year old grandfather was still on the wolf! The timeline seems problematic for all of the events that are reported here.


63 posted on 10/06/2005 8:33:04 PM PDT by GOPPachyderm
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To: Treader

Now, see there? You didn't KNOW you were gonna need to do that, but you went out there prepared anyway; and had the right tool close at hand. If everyone were as levelheaded as you, we wouldn't read many stories like this one.

You go up into the Sierra Nevada to camp, you'll go prepared to sanitize your campsite of all traces of food before you bed down, or you'll be rudely awakened by a local bear stopping by for a midnight snack. If you're fortunate, your ursine guest will be satisfied with your careless offerings and leave your soft, but crunchy body alone, cowering in your tent. As a last-ditch, maybe the fould smell from your freshly soild Fruit of the Loom's will deter the interloper. Only a fool would risk it, though. Down in the campgrounds in Yosemite, they've got heavy-gauge welded steel lockers with complex latching systems that require two hands and opposable thumbs to operate. You stow your edibles in those lockers or else.

Feral animals are called "wild" for a very good reason and people get hurt 'cuz they get caught unprepared to deal with that fact. Bottom line: If you head out into the backcountry, go prepared to fight and win, or go prepared to die.


64 posted on 10/06/2005 8:34:43 PM PDT by HKMk23 (Today's game: The FR Patriots v. The Hatriots)
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To: Jeff Head
Haha, the 308 Win. will slap one down quick. And 19 rounds to follow if needed.

Personally, I think folks have gotten too far away from nature. They don't realize that a Whitetail buck is more dangerous than a pitbull when the rut is on. Bull Elk and Moose are 5 to 10 times the size of a Whitetail and can be just as mean.

On a trip to Yellowstone years ago, I witnessed a fella sneaking up on a Bull Buffalo just outside of Ol Faithful area. This fella got up to within 20' of this bull and the bull decided that he would run over the top of him, just because.

The fella wasn't hurt bad, other than some nice hoof prints on his arms and legs.

He couldn't figure out what he had done wrong.

65 posted on 10/06/2005 8:35:20 PM PDT by Double Tap
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To: Montana4Jesus

Coyote Attacks 3-year old Boy on Cape Cod
Associated Press, 07/30/98

SANDWICH, Mass. (AP) - Police shot and killed a coyote that attacked a 3-year-old boy playing in his back yard on Cape Cod.

The boy's mother told police she had to pry the coyote off her son Wednesday night.

The female coyote was shot by a police officer who rushed to the home after a frantic call from the mother.

Police had increased patrols of the neighborhood after receiving about a dozen calls in recent days about an overly aggressive coyote.

Wildlife officials say the state's coyote population appears to be growing steadily. Some wildlife biologists said they have lost their ability to effectively manage the coyote population because a new law bars the use of leg traps. The ban's proponents said the traps were cruel.

http://www.igorilla.com/gorilla/animal/coyote_attacks_3yearold_boy.html


66 posted on 10/06/2005 8:35:57 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Montana4Jesus

Yeah, coyotes have tried to attack my lab-pitbull mix. You may so that they'd be no match, but he's the most docile thing on earth--won't even snap at other dogs when they play. Coyotes are not to be trusted or taken lightly. My cousin was hiking and had one snarl at her, as well. She, being the good Wyoming girl that she is, she succinctly whipped out her pistol and put a good warning shot between its legs.

Frankly, I wish that she had downed the thing. Heaven knows I've taken out a coyote or 12 in my life.

If you live in a residential neighborhood that isn't full of fields with an abundance or rodents and the like, it's only a matter of time before they attack someone. I say off them from problem areas before they get the chance.


67 posted on 10/06/2005 8:38:02 PM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: george76
Interesting. I was walking near the woods with my grandson and grandaughter and we spotted a coyote 20 feet away from us in a ravine headed for thicker brush. We headed back to their house after that and I explained to the youngsters that grandpa could beat up a coyote, but I might have to sit on him to do it.

Thanks for posting.

68 posted on 10/06/2005 8:39:18 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Double Tap
Point is...one has to respect nature in all of its elements. I never go into the mountains here without my rifle and my dog...unless I am hunting Elk, Deer or Bear. But any time I am just hiking or camping, I have both.

Had an experience in the western Pioneers in Montana about ten years ago. One of my sons (12 at the time) were hiking there above the Big Hole. I had my rifle and dog. We came around a bend in the trail with a beautiful scene and stopped to drink some wtaer and take in the site. Along came five twenty-ish folks, with beeds and in sandals and shorts. They stopped to look too and we shared some water with them.

One of the young men asked me, "Why do you have the rifle? It's not hunting season?"

I responded, "See my dog there? She's here to sense the wild animals, particularly Bear or Cat before I do. Most of the times she will scare them away. The rifle is for the times that she doesn't">

The kid strted laughing and indicated that Bears will not bother you if you do not bother them...cats either. They left laughing and joking about it.

I looked at my son who was watching me.

I said, "Son, I want you to learn something my dad, your grandad, taught me a long time ago...and that is simply this," I said as I cradled and patted my rifle, "...I would rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it."

I then told him, "I hope those folks who just hiked off laughing at me never need it...at least not until they get a little older and a little wiser wiser and understand that they do need it and then have it with them."

69 posted on 10/06/2005 8:47:15 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: PGalt

They are very clever.

They are well know for sending out one coyote as bait for a dog or child to chase while the rest of the pack hides in the ravine ready to attack.

We see signs around town , like..."Have you seen my dog : muffin?"


70 posted on 10/06/2005 8:49:17 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Double Tap
In that Natl. Geographic article is this quote --- "If they persist in aggressive behavior, the ultimate solution would probably be to remove problem animals," Curtis said. "Nobody is happy about that."

Nobody?

71 posted on 10/06/2005 8:52:22 PM PDT by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC (The heart of the wise man inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. - Eccl. 10:2)
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To: Double Tap
Thanks you for the link

I will still hike but as a much more educated hiker

What impressed me about these stories is that it seems a good deal of the attacks came from behind.......coyotes are very clever

Thank goodnes they aren't that big, as opposed to wolves, or I imagine no one would survive an attack!

72 posted on 10/06/2005 8:52:35 PM PDT by apackof2 (There's two theories to arguin' with a woman. Neither one works. Will Rogers)
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To: editor-surveyor

You dragged Fluffy?

We wndered how she got that way.

It's getting so a feller can't arbitrarily release his packs of lynx and bobcat anymore.


73 posted on 10/06/2005 9:07:53 PM PDT by PoorMuttly (A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun -T.Jefferson)
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To: apackof2; Squantos

They aren't that big, but good at launching fox-like and then some fangy neck-seeking theeths at a moment's no notice...though. Bad ju-ju. Bad.

Polar bears roll around in pepper spray when it is sprayed on the ground. They like it.

They don't like it in their eyes and nose...but I suspect they can overcome their ouchies long enough to settle me darn good....and my little dog too.

Wild is right. And when RABID.....like flying little icepicks.

Wild.

yikes.

Makes for an adventure.

I hear flying monkeys are pretty bad too.


74 posted on 10/06/2005 9:21:35 PM PDT by PoorMuttly (A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun -T.Jefferson)
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To: HKMk23

Actually, I did know to expect- yet an open ambush, just kinda unfolds unexpectedly, sometimes... These were the first yotes of the fall season. I don't hunt fur, venison or bird, since '76. Fish and abalone have a kind master by me, as does, the wild azz Gualala coastal pig- and I always get my well reasoned choice. I do raise beef stock and will cull predators, without notice to anyone- just like all my good neighbors. We watch, talk and take good notice. Herd/Field watch is older than snot, but not as old as Mt.Shasta...lol


75 posted on 10/06/2005 9:29:44 PM PDT by Treader (Hillary's dark smile is reminiscent of Stalin's inhuman grin...)
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To: george76

Muffin became a dessert for the coyotes?

I had a 3/4 coyote, 1/4 australian shephard as a pet. She was so loyal and loving...but I wouldn't have wanted to make her mad!


76 posted on 10/06/2005 9:49:41 PM PDT by trussell (Hello, my name is Utter...Utter Chaos)
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To: george76
"Police don't know if there are other coyotes in the area..."

If there's one there's more, they live and hunt in packs.

77 posted on 10/06/2005 9:58:56 PM PDT by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" -Pope Urban II, 1097AD)
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To: editor-surveyor
"I've found coyotes in our yard in town. They don't fear us anymore."

Interesting comment; Pres. Bush said the same thing regarding the terrorists who stopped fearing us due to Clinton's passivity towards their attacks. Seems even the coyotes sense we're becoming a wimpy nation. (Not that there's much difference between terrorists and coyotes anyway).

In years past all these coyote sitings I'm reading about in here would have ended up with dead coyotes littering the streets and they'd fear us plenty.

78 posted on 10/06/2005 10:11:22 PM PDT by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" -Pope Urban II, 1097AD)
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To: Treader

I took my family to Crane Flat mid August this year. Stayed for five days and had a great time. The first night we were there a pack of coyotes woke up the whole camp at 2:00am with an hour-long chorale of yipping and howling. They were at the edge of a meadow, probably 250yd from our tent, but it was plenty close enough. I grew up in the SoCal hills, and have heard em off and on at night, but never a whole pack of them like that. All of em, with their voices echoing through those tall fir trees...man it was totally primal. At once, majestic, eerie and beautiful.


79 posted on 10/06/2005 10:15:26 PM PDT by HKMk23 (Today's game: The FR Patriots v. The Hatriots)
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To: George Stupidnopolis
I'll take a few decades of personal and far flung experience over something written by a bunch of armchair enviromentalist whackos

You are as appropriately named as I am. It is not bad to be mistaken but to defend your error till death does border on stupid. Maybe you are a liberal and don't know it.

80 posted on 10/06/2005 10:31:16 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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