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Truth : The Solution to Black America's Moral Poverty ( Written by a Black Pastor )
Worldnetdaily.com ^ | 10/07/2005 | Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson

Posted on 10/07/2005 11:48:06 AM PDT by SirLinksalot

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To: kipita
Everyone knows most of black America is screwed up – immoral, dependent, weak

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You cite this and call it the truth. So, tell me what percentage of the tens of millions of Black Americans are immoral? Sixty? Ninety?

This statement is outrageous but it will get JLP a pat on the back from certain folks. However, insulting hyperbole directed at an entire ethnic group is not going to gain him any respect or listeners in that group. As I've written here before, JLP is not new, except for maybe around here. He screwed the pooch in his own community a long time ago. There are reasons why he has no audience there and it is the singer not the song. Now his act is to sing his insulting rants to the Hannity/WND audiences, at least to those segments of those audiences who like to hear a Black man make absurd statements like "most of Black America is immoral".

JLP is perfectly safe from any harm because no one in Black America takes him seriously, he is not a threat to Jesse or Al or Charlie.

This is not to say that much of Black America needs to turn around but so does much of poor White America and poor Latino America. There are significant cultural issues to be addressed. JLP is not the guy to do it effectively though, not where the message needs to be heard.

41 posted on 10/07/2005 1:30:06 PM PDT by wtc911 (see my profile for how to contribute to a pentagon heroes fund)
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To: oyez

I'd say most racial stereotypes are wrong. In New Orleans do they have another race, Cajun?


42 posted on 10/07/2005 1:34:49 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: ClaireSolt

Cajuns are not known for whining and bitching. They are known for working out their own problems and without any help from anyone else.


43 posted on 10/07/2005 1:44:54 PM PDT by oyez
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To: ClaireSolt

Cajuns are not known for whining and bitching. They are known for working out their own problems and without any help from anyone else.


44 posted on 10/07/2005 1:45:00 PM PDT by oyez
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To: Prost1
"...they choose to rail against the Police and tolerate high crime and drugs."

In my city, Baltimore, there is about 1 murder each day. There is no one in the streets rallying to stop the violence. Innocent children get blown away sitting on their step by errant shots. No one protesting. Until 1 young thug gets shot and killed by the police for pulling a gun from his waistband, then all hell breaks loose.
45 posted on 10/07/2005 1:49:45 PM PDT by hophead (" Enjoy Every Sandwich" WZ)
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To: American Quilter

"I salute Rev. Jesse Peterson, and other black Americans like Bill Cosby and Star Parker, for speaking the truth. I hope more black Americans will start listening to them."

The problem is that it is far easier to be the "victim" than the solution provider.


46 posted on 10/07/2005 1:51:07 PM PDT by hophead (" Enjoy Every Sandwich" WZ)
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To: wtc911
As I've written here before, JLP is not new, except for maybe around here. He screwed the pooch in his own community a long time ago. There are reasons why he has no audience there and it is the singer not the song.

I don't know anything about him but I agree with what was said. Moreover, as I have POSTED before, the situation isn't pretty!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1272768/posts

47 posted on 10/07/2005 1:51:50 PM PDT by kipita (Conservatives: Freedom and Responsibility………Liberals: Freedom from Responsibility)
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To: wtc911

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insulting hyperbole directed at an entire ethnic group is not going to gain him any respect or listeners in that group.
>>>>>

How true is it that close to 70% of black children born in the USA is illegitimate ?

If 70% does not count as "most" and is a hyperbole, what else does ?

BTW, if a certain segment of white population that live in poor county X had the same problem of illegitimacy, how is calling the majority of white people of county X who fornicate "immoral" an insult regardless ?

Sometimes the truth hurts regardless of the color of your skin.


48 posted on 10/07/2005 1:53:13 PM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: kipita

We agree that the situation is not a pretty one. But, as I said, JLP is fairly new to those here but he has a history in the Black community and that history has pretty much shut him out from being an effective bearer of the message. Now if Cosby and Colin Powell took the message on the road something would get done, and other "acceptable" voices would join the chorus.


49 posted on 10/07/2005 2:00:54 PM PDT by wtc911 (see my profile for how to contribute to a pentagon heroes fund)
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To: wtc911
He screwed the pooch in his own community a long time ago. There are reasons why he has no audience there and it is the singer not the song.

Why so cryptic? Details, please.

50 posted on 10/07/2005 2:04:04 PM PDT by workerbee (A person's a person no matter how small.)
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To: kipita
There is one more point I'd like to make about this...

It matters not how many White Americans applaud this guy's statements. What matters is changing minds in Black America and opening that group up to more conservative thinking. That is or should be the goal. The more the Hannity/WND cadre hoist JLP into the spotlight the more reluctant the group that most needs to hear the message will be to listen. That is counter-productive.

51 posted on 10/07/2005 2:08:08 PM PDT by wtc911 (see my profile for how to contribute to a pentagon heroes fund)
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To: wtc911
Now if Cosby and Colin Powell took the message on the road something would get done, and other "acceptable" voices would join the chorus.

Cosby knows the situation is close to hopeless. From Powell's perspective, Mr. Harry Belafonte probably hurt him a lot, probably beyond repair. I know why Tiger married a European woman and into a European family. Very sad indeed!

52 posted on 10/07/2005 2:10:32 PM PDT by kipita (Conservatives: Freedom and Responsibility………Liberals: Freedom from Responsibility)
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To: rdb3; mhking

your take on #41, please?


53 posted on 10/07/2005 2:16:15 PM PDT by King Prout (19sep05 - I want at least 2 Saiga-12 shotguns. If you have leads, let me know)
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To: truthingod
Until we get over this obsession with race at all, we have a problem.

Untill we get the money out of racism, we will continue to have a problem.

54 posted on 10/07/2005 2:45:12 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: SirLinksalot
Rev. Peterson, Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Star Parker, Roy Innis, Bill Cosby, Derrick Murdock, Mychal Massie, Armstrong Williams and even Janice Rogers Brown...

You left out Condi. And George Washington Carver.

55 posted on 10/07/2005 3:06:32 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: yankeedame
Untill we get the money out of racism, we will continue to have a problem.

Spot-on with that, I think.

56 posted on 10/07/2005 3:09:06 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: the invisib1e hand

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You left out Condi. And George Washington Carver.
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Yes, them too. And while we're at it, we should add the great Booker T. Washington to the mix before his self-reliance message got hijacked by the liberals.

Does anybody know whatever happened to the Normal School for Colored Teachers he founded in the early 20th century ?


57 posted on 10/07/2005 3:13:32 PM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: SirLinksalot
Does anybody know whatever happened to the Normal School for Colored Teachers he founded in the early 20th century ?

No but I sure dig the handle!

58 posted on 10/07/2005 3:16:17 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: kipita

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I know why Tiger married a European woman and into a European family
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As an aside, Tiger ISN'T pure black. He is half Asian and is of mixed race. Now *THAT* is a great example of harmony in the USA.


59 posted on 10/07/2005 3:16:29 PM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: SirLinksalot

Makes me think that the Leftist Media, the Race Warlords, and the sycophant Dems are the true enemy of Black people. Do most Black people realize what is up, but they never get heard? Ted Koppel's NightLine reporter tried to get four black women to bad mouth Bush after his speech on reconstruction of the Gulf Coast. They would have none of it. They praised Bush and said they thought he was a good man. The only ones they had problems with were Blanco and Nagin. One woman even admitted her part in it by not leaving the city when she had fair warning. Koppel was really put off and commented, "We'll see if the rest of the country agrees with this small sample."


60 posted on 10/07/2005 3:45:13 PM PDT by Sioux-san (God save the Sheeple)
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