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Btw, notice how people who speak well of Miers are now being called "Bushbots"? I thought the Schivo matter had taken this place down as low as it was likely to go, but I wonder how deep the actual bottom will turn out to be.

Good question...........and one that a lot of us are asking.

Why stay on a forum that is populated by so many irrational, out of control, name-calling people, when the reason we are here in the first place is for rational discussion of issues that are important to the future of this nation? When one of the things we thought distinguished conservatives from the left was that we could actually THINK??

How deep will the bottom be to this frenzy of unbridled DU-like emotion?

It is interesting that many talk about the "base" as if it is some uniform group of like minded people. There are really several groups in the conservative base but only one that really matters, since they get the vote out, and that is evangelical Christians. If you look at those in opposition and those for, the split is between those who want a Senate fight with the dems and those who are comfortable with a born again Christian selection and trust Bush. The problem is those who are most vocal think they are the majority of the base while they are not. Much like Move On and the Daily Kos with the dems.

So here we have a group of Conservatives who are asking for the defeat of Miers but who, at the same time, decry the dems for going against tradition and not allowing the President to pick the nominee unless they agree. It seems they are now in the same camp and have agreed with the dems that the President cannot have his say in who he nominates but must get their approval first.

This storm will blow over when they start to think about what they are doing and who they are coming to resemble. That is already happening at places like Powerline who think , reason and realize that we often, especially in politics, do not get what we want. Especially in this Senate.

The real base will support the President, the rest will mellow a bit, and he will get the appointment.

What is actually funny in all this is that the dems will not know what to do. They think that the base is against the choice so will lay off. The storm is subsiding, but they will not see it. The dems may be caught short since they think the pubs will do the dirty work. But the complaint against her is she is not Conservative enough, so how can they fight that? Or she does not have elite credentials, but some of the greatest SC Justices did not, so what have they against the "Common Man"? Plus she is a woman, which is what they wanted. In essence, they are painted into a corner.

It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

Oh, don't mind some of them. When the nominee was announced, I said she'd be a good one. Then came Frum and Kristol and the rest, piling on, and I still said, she'd be a good one. Now, Mark Levin has backed off quite a bit, and Thomas Sowell has started to come around (I don't know if he ever opposed her), but the message is getting out---a "known" conservative justice with a judicial record, like a Brown or Luttig or Alioto, was NOT going to get through the liberal RINOs like Chaffee and Collins and Snowe. I'm convinced Bush met with all of them, named names, and they told him flat-out, "No, I won't vote for Luttig, and I won't vote to break a filibuster over Brown. But I will vote for Miers and plead ignorance with my constituents."

In the last two days, both Levin and Sowell have now echoed these thoughts.