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THE LARGEST MASS GRAVE IN AMERICA?
http://www.assistnews.net/Stories/s05100031.htm ^ | October 7, 2005 | Rich Buhler

Posted on 10/08/2005 1:17:49 PM PDT by Blogger

Friday, October 7, 2005

THE LARGEST MASS GRAVE IN AMERICA?

By Rich Buhler Special to ASSIST News Service

LOS ANGELES (ANS) -- Yesterday was the 20th anniversary of the sealing of what many regard to be the largest mass grave on American soil. (Pictured: Rich Buhler).

There isn’t anything that points you to the site in the Odd Fellows cemetery in East Los Angeles. You have to search for it, but it’s there on the east side of the grounds marked only by a flat gravestone that says “IN MEMORY OF THE 16,500 PRECIOUS UNBORN BURIED HERE. OCT 6, 1985.”

The story that led to the burial came to light in February of 1982 when workers opened a large shipping container that had been repossessed from the owner of a medical lab in Southern California. It was filled with buckets of the results of thousands of abortions.

Los Angeles county supervisors faced a dilemma about what to do with the remains and a feminist lawsuit that went all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court ordered that they couldn’t be buried with religious ceremony because that would be taking sides in the abortion debate.

But on October 6, 1985, the date of the burial, there was a crowd of us who had independently come to do what the county could not do: honor the lives and mourn the deaths of the children being laid to rest.

I had the privilege of being one of those who participated in the service that day and it was an overwhelming experience as we stood at the graveside of thousands of children who by that time would have been three years old and playing in the Southern California sunshine.

During the ceremony, County Supervisor Michael Antonovich read a telegram from President Reagan. In it Mr. Reagan likened the Supreme Court decisions legalizing abortion to decisions that upheld slavery prior to the Civil War. He said, “Once again a whole category of human beings has been ruled outside the protection of the law by a court ruling which clashed with our deepest moral convictions."

That telegram got fresh national attention during the confirmation debate around John Roberts’ nomination to be the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. As associate White House counsel in 1985 he was asked to review the text of President Reagan’s statement.

For several years, the grave of the babies was unmarked because of conflict over what to say on a gravestone. I had the privilege of again being a part of the service that later dedicated the memorial marker.

In my remarks I speculated what the demographics might be of the children buried there. If they were representative of the nation as a whole, about 8,000 of them were boys and 9,000 were girls. Had they lived, 1,600 of them would have been left handed, nearly 4,000 of them Catholic, 2,300 Baptists, and more than 160 Episcopalians.

About 1,600 would have become teachers, more than 13,000 high school graduates and more than 3,500 college grads. Nearly 2,000 would have been executives, 1,600 in sales, and a little more than 2,000 would have been professionals.

These are woefully unscientific numbers, but illustrate the fact that these children were not the medical equivalent of amputated limbs or surgically discarded cartilage. Until abortion intervened, every one of them was alive in safety of their mother’s wombs and had beating hearts. Some of them were old enough that you could have seen whether they had grandpa’s dimple or momma’s nose. Where the comparison with the national population breaks down the most is with race. Because of the locations of the clinics where their abortions took place a disproportionate number of the children were minorities.

Yesterday, I paused to think about the children buried in the Odd Fellows cemetery. I try to drop by and visit their grave whenever I can. Not only to remember them but the more than 100 million other babies who like them have been the deprived of the opportunity to experience birth and life but who unlike them do not have a grave.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; US: California
KEYWORDS: abortion; anniversary; antiabortionnuts; cemetery; cultureofdeath; ethniccleansing; holocaust; johnroberts; massgrave; plannedparenthood; ronaldreagan; supremecourt
America buries her future.
1 posted on 10/08/2005 1:17:51 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: Blogger
America buries her future.

And it seems the future is returning the favor.

2 posted on 10/08/2005 1:20:22 PM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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To: Blogger

"they couldn’t be buried with religious ceremony because that would be taking sides in the abortion debate."

Can you see the logic just flow from this decision?

I'm sure I've seen and heard of courts taking sides in murder cases before.


3 posted on 10/08/2005 1:22:30 PM PDT by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: Blogger

The most dangerous place in America is a mother's womb.


4 posted on 10/08/2005 1:29:17 PM PDT by manwiththehands
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To: Blogger

Praise God for the Odd Fellows and the ones who knew that this had to be done. How I long for the day when the practice of abortion and the mentality that allows it will be relegated to the ash heap of history where it belongs, along with slavery, child labor, torture and other unspeakable horrors.


5 posted on 10/08/2005 1:29:18 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: Blogger

interesting post


6 posted on 10/08/2005 1:30:02 PM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Blogger
Abortion is not about saving women’s lives!

Total Abortions since 1973

45,951,133

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Why the drop after 1960? (in deaths of women from illegal abortions)

The reasons were new and better antibiotics, better surgery and the establishment of intensive care units in hospitals. This was in the face of a rising population. Between 1967 and 1970 sixteen states legalized abortion. In most it was limited, only for rape, incest and severe fetal handicap (life of mother was legal in all states). There were two big exceptions — California in 1967, and New York in 1970 allowed abortion on demand. Now look at the chart carefully.

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Abortion Statistics - Decision to Have an Abortion (U.S.)

· 25.5% of women deciding to have an abortion want to postpone childbearing

· 21.3% of women cannot afford a baby

· 14.1% of women have a relationship issue or their partner does not want a child

· 12.2% of women are too young (their parents or others object to the pregnancy)

· 10.8% of women feel a child will disrupt their education or career

· 7.9% of women want no (more) children

· 3.3% of women have an abortion due to a risk to fetal health

2.8% of women have an abortion due to a risk to maternal health

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So how many women’s lives have been saved by abortion?

Only about 3% of abortions since 1972 were reported to be “due to a risk to maternal health.” A reasonable person would recognize that not all of those cases represent a lethal risk. But let’s say they did. That means that nearly 45 million fetuses were butchered to save the lives of about 1.3 million women. Or put another way; 35 babies are killed to save each woman.

Abortion was legal in all 50 states prior to Roe v. Wade in cases of danger to the life of the woman.

7 posted on 10/08/2005 1:35:48 PM PDT by TigersEye (Are your parents Pro-Choice? I guess you got lucky! Is your spouse?)
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To: Blogger

This post is simultaneously uplifting and sorrowful. May the good never refrain from calling evil, evil.


8 posted on 10/08/2005 1:36:33 PM PDT by Socratic (Liberal's motto: Capio ergo sum.)
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To: Blogger

My youngest son was born in 1982. Really strikes the sad cord. HE enjoyed the sun on the East coast, and graduated from college as a mechanical engineer .We can only guess as to how many positive contributions to our country were negated by the option of abortion . Such a tragedy that this kind of killing of the innocent continues in the United States.


9 posted on 10/08/2005 1:37:32 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: Blogger

My heart hurt when I read this.


10 posted on 10/08/2005 1:40:42 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: manwiththehands

Thanks for the tagline. I needed a new one.


11 posted on 10/08/2005 1:43:19 PM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (The most dangerous place in America is a mother's womb.)
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To: Blogger
Thank-you for remembering....and caring.

The day I became prolife was the day I saw a 4 month (gestational) baby who had been aborted and cast aside ....in a dumpster behind an abortuary.----I still remember how perfect & beautiful she was formed.--I also remember standing there crying and saying over and over....this is a baby

She was lovingly and carefully claimed & taken away by prolife folks who gave her the dignity and respect her little body deserved.

This is why I joined the Right to Life..organization shortly after....

Seeing this aborted baby was what turned my heart toward protection of our unborn.
The abortion industry, ie, NARAL, NOW, Planned Parenthood, etc. don't want YOU to know or see the result of abortion...

..because if you don't see it, you can still convince your mind....it isn't a baby....it's not a human being.

Our nation has the blood of over 40 million souls on its collective conscience.

12 posted on 10/08/2005 1:43:38 PM PDT by Guenevere (God bless our military!...and God bless the President of the United States!)
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To: Past Your Eyes

One day abortion will be regarded with the same distaste as slavery and antisemitism but for now, the feelgood generation gets up in arms when anyone discusses doing away with it.

Why do some politicians feel the need to say they want it "safe, legal, and rare"? Why should it be rare if there is nothing wrong with it? Pretending the girl never got pregnant does no one any favors, most of all the child.


13 posted on 10/08/2005 2:03:50 PM PDT by weegee (The lesson from New Orleans? Smart Growth kills. You can't evacuate dense populations easily.)
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To: TigersEye

Your chart would be a lot more complete with the stats on girls who die from legal abortion every year. I would guess that the number more than makes up for the girls' lives saved who would otherwise have died from illegal abortions.

I'm calling them girls because a woman is mature and smart enough to avoid "unwanted" pregnancy and abortion in the first place.


14 posted on 10/08/2005 2:08:58 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Guenevere

Yes, and the blood of those children cries out for justice. God notices.


15 posted on 10/08/2005 2:12:15 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: Guenevere
"as the day I saw a 4 month (gestational) baby who had been aborted and cast aside"

Wow.
Abortion is truly an evil in this nation.
Once people hear what actually is done to a living human during an abortion, some see the truth.
16 posted on 10/08/2005 2:16:10 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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To: TigersEye

Why would anyone want to save the life of a woman who would murder her child anyway? I've even read an essay whose author complains about the women becoming sterile!


17 posted on 10/08/2005 2:24:20 PM PDT by Tim Long (Gingrich Brownback '08)
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To: weegee

Anyone who thinks something can be legal and rare is an idiot.


18 posted on 10/08/2005 2:26:15 PM PDT by Tim Long (Gingrich Brownback '08)
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To: Blogger

19 posted on 10/08/2005 2:26:36 PM PDT by Boazo (From the mind of BOAZO)
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To: Blogger

precious baby bump (with sadness) -- how long can God tolerate the destruction of those most innocent?


20 posted on 10/08/2005 2:36:15 PM PDT by EverOnward
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To: exDemMom
I did the research for this post about two years ago. I spent a lot of time searching for stats on the number of deaths per year by legal abortion. Hours. They are not to be found anywhere. I asked some other committed Pro-Life FReepers for help with it and was told that I would not find them because the CoD would never be listed as "due to abortion." If the abortion results in a fatal hemorrhage the CoD is listed as hemorrhage and so forth.
21 posted on 10/08/2005 2:57:00 PM PDT by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
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To: Blogger

Abortion, it's just murder.


22 posted on 10/08/2005 2:57:43 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Blogger
I never heard this story before.

Thanks for posting it.

God owes Sodom and Gomorrah an apology

23 posted on 10/08/2005 3:17:16 PM PDT by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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To: Blogger

We have our own Holocaust, abortion. We've killed almost as many babies as Hitler killed Jews.


24 posted on 10/08/2005 3:30:42 PM PDT by foobeca
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To: Popman

I've never heard about it, either. 20 years ago at this time I was mired in grief over my mother's death so it's not unusual that I missed the news stories.

Bless you for visiting and praying for these lost souls.


25 posted on 10/08/2005 3:44:21 PM PDT by WIladyconservative (Save us from future Freepathons - set up a monthly donation!)
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To: Fzob

Thought this might interest you


26 posted on 10/08/2005 3:49:39 PM PDT by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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To: foobeca
We have our own Holocaust, abortion. We've killed almost as many babies as Hitler killed Jews.

If I'm not mistaken.....Hitler killed 4 million Jews. We've aborted about 41 million babies......"legally". That's 10 times the Holocaust.

27 posted on 10/08/2005 4:56:53 PM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: LaineyDee

You're right, I was thinking of Stalin who killed 30-40 million people.


28 posted on 10/08/2005 5:38:20 PM PDT by foobeca
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To: foobeca

We've killed many more. 40million is the last count that I have heard since Roe V Wade


29 posted on 10/08/2005 6:04:26 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: foobeca

Here is an abortion counter that updates per second for American abortions.

http://www.biblehelp.org/abortioncnt.htm


30 posted on 10/08/2005 6:10:09 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: Blogger
Yep,every day we kill more of our own future than the terrorists wer able to kill in a year.

The jobs of those murdered unborn are being filled by immigrants who don't have our American values.Of course one of those values is that killing babies is o.k. but killing murderers is not!!!!???

31 posted on 10/08/2005 6:16:32 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: Blogger

bttt


32 posted on 10/08/2005 6:17:39 PM PDT by investigateworld ( Abortion stops a beating heart.)
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To: Blogger

Great post. Thanks for these inconvenient facts for liberals.


33 posted on 10/08/2005 6:23:17 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they have to.)
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To: Blogger

Im just speachless.

Very overwhelming.


34 posted on 10/08/2005 6:31:58 PM PDT by Delta 21 (MKC USCG-ret)
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To: potlatch

ping


35 posted on 10/08/2005 10:14:21 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: Blogger
I look at my 3 month old son and wonder......what world will he inherit from us?

If I have anything more important in life than to see to it that those ba$tards don't destroy humanity by their inhumane methods, I've yet to realize it.

36 posted on 10/08/2005 10:22:43 PM PDT by Thumper1960 ("It is true that liberty is precious; so precious that it must be carefully rationed."-V.I.Lenin)
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To: TigersEye
I did the research for this post about two years ago. I spent a lot of time searching for stats on the number of deaths per year by legal abortion. Hours. They are not to be found anywhere. I asked some other committed Pro-Life FReepers for help with it and was told that I would not find them because the CoD would never be listed as "due to abortion." If the abortion results in a fatal hemorrhage the CoD is listed as hemorrhage and so forth.

Too bad, since I would suspect that the number of women who die in abortions has probably increased since Roe v. Wade (given the sheer number of abortions since then, they'd have to be pretty amazingly safe for the woman for that number not to have increased).

37 posted on 10/08/2005 10:27:43 PM PDT by supercat (Don't fix blame--FIX THE PROBLEM.)
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To: Blogger

I was there at the cemetary that day. A group of us drove up from San Diego. My recollection is that there were a few hundred people there. It was a sad day, but in a way energizing. We left there even more determined to fight the good fight . . . still doing it 20 years later.


38 posted on 10/08/2005 10:30:04 PM PDT by choirboy
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To: Blogger

bump


39 posted on 10/08/2005 10:31:40 PM PDT by Maeve (Remember Lepanto!)
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To: Blogger
The liberals didn't want their souls at peace. Not to pray on behalf of the dead is an affront to God. I can't imagine why it would be taking sides to acknowledge the humanity of the dead - after all a human being is more than just dust that returns to the earth. A human being has a soul that after death, returns to God who gave it.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
40 posted on 10/09/2005 2:27:14 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Thank the Lord that reality is not based upon what Human beings want. Those babies have a wonderful life now, and their souls live on. The abortionists soul, however, becomes more and more dead each day. Unless they repent, they will surely perish.


41 posted on 10/09/2005 5:31:54 AM PDT by Blogger
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To: Blogger

Bill Bennett says 25% would have become criminals.


42 posted on 10/09/2005 5:57:01 AM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: Blogger

Sad....just sad....


43 posted on 11/29/2005 9:35:20 AM PST by Chili Girl
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