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Stand Up Guy: In Today Show Interview, W Quick on Feet on Katrina, Less So on Miers
Today Show/Newsbusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 10/11/2005 5:52:44 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

Edited on 10/11/2005 6:04:10 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

by Mark Finkelstein

October 11, 2005 - 08:43.

If you invite the chubby kid from down the block to the birthday party, is it fair to criticize him for eating cake?

There was something of that lack of hospitality to the Today show's interview of President and Laura Bush this morning

For weeks now, Today has been reveling in its contribution to the Katrina relief effort, notably in its collaboration with Habitat for Humanity. Two weeks ago, Today transformed Rockefeller Plaza into "Humanity Plaza," erecting Habitat homes for transport to the stricken area.

This morning, the action moved to Covington, Louisiana, where a home was being erected on site. And who was there, hammer at the ready to lend a hand, but President Bush himself, accompanied by Laura.

Yet almost no sooner had Matt Lauer begun the stand-up interview than he suggested W was engaging in a photo op. A bit ungracious, no?

In any case, there were two distinct Ws on display. In the first half, dealing with Katrina and its aftermath, W was literally nimble on his feet.

Lauer quoted "a prominent Democrat in Louisiana" who is demanding 'to see a plan on paper, your plan to rebuild this region." Asked Lauer: "do you have that kind of a plan?"

With body language that bespoke ease and confidence, W knocked the question out of the park:

"Matt, you see, I don't think Washington ought to dictate to New Orleans how to rebuild. I guess we have a different philosophy from the 'prominent Democrat' who you spoke to. My message is we will support the plan [local people] develop. The point is that it comes from the local folks. And I recognize there's an attitude in Washington that says we know better than the local people, but that's just not the attitude I have."

Bingo!

But when talk shifted to Miers, one could sense a shift in body language and mood.

Lauer cited a number of conservative critics of the nomination, then asked: "were you taken off-guard by the amount of criticism you're getting for Miers?"

In this person's opinion, W set up a straw man in defense, suggesting that the criticism was simply due to the fact that he had chosen someone from outside the "judicial monastery."

But surely W knows that the criticism goes far beyond that, to Miers' perceived lack of interest or knowledge in the constitutional issues of the day. Does the president believe for a moment that conservatives would have criticized him had he chosen a brilliant, conservative constitutional scholar who is not a lawyer, such as Prof. Jeremy Rabkin of Cornell?

The president then repeated his stock praise of Miers, which notably seemed to include an embellishment of her record. He spoke of her being consistently ranked as "one of the top 50 women lawyers in the United States." In fact, in 1998 Miers was ranked by the National Law Journal among the top 50 "most infuential" lawyers, rather different from being ranked as a "top lawyer."

W then delved into feminism, referring to Miers as having broken "the glass ceiling" and "served as a great example." The president again raised the straw man, asserting that "just because she hasn't served on the bench" doesn't mean she can't be a great Supreme Court justice.

Lauer then alluded to conservatives feeling "let down" by W, and asked whether he truly felt Miers was "the most qualified" candidate for the job.

Laura responded to the question, again sounding the feminist theme: "I know how many times she's broken the glass celing herself. She's a role model for young women."

Added Mrs. Bush: "She's very deliberate and thoughtful and will bring dignity to wherever she goes." Not negligible qualities in a judge, but one senses these are the kinds of compliments paid when one is incapable of honestly asserting that someone has a great legal mind.

Matt sought to pour gasoline on the feminist fire, suggesting there might be "sexism" in the criticism of Miers. Concurred Laura: "that's possible. I think that's possible." And yet again Laura couched her response in feminist terms, arguing that people are overlooking that Miers was the first woman head of the Texas bar and the first woman to head a large Texas law firm.

W concluded by expressing his conviction that Miers would be confirmed and, with a slight stumble for words, argued that "she won't change. The person I know is not going to change her philosophy, and her philosophy is not to legislate from the bench."

While Lauer and Today might have been ungracious in first inviting W to their Habitat set, then criticizing him for coming, all in all the tenor of Matt's questioning was not hostile, and some defensiveness over Miers aside, W handled matters nimbly. <>

Finkelstein has degrees from Cornell University and Harvard Law School.He lives in Ithaca, NY where he hosts "Right Angle," a local political talk show. Finkelstein specializes in exposing liberal bias at NBC's Today Show.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Louisiana; US: Texas
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1 posted on 10/11/2005 5:52:47 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; YaYa123; MEG33; ...

Today Show/NewsBusters ping.


2 posted on 10/11/2005 5:54:52 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (check out my posts on Today show bias at www.newsbusters.org)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

>>Matt sought to pour gasoline on the feminist fire, suggesting there might be "sexism" in the criticism of Miers. Concurred Laura: "that's possible. I think that's possible."<<

My respect for Laura just took a major hit.


3 posted on 10/11/2005 5:57:26 AM PDT by SerpentDove (Oooo! Oooo! Pick me!)
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To: SerpentDove

Much as it pains me to say so, I was disappointed in Laura's performance, which drew almost exclusively on feminist themes in defending the Miers appointment.


4 posted on 10/11/2005 6:04:02 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (check out my posts on Today show bias at www.newsbusters.org)
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To: SerpentDove

If that's all it took for your respect to take a "major hit" you couldn't have had much to begin with.


5 posted on 10/11/2005 6:04:44 AM PDT by Russ
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Do you know who is considered by almost all to be the greatest justice to ever serve on SCOTUS? Did you realize this person had only briefly studied law? Did you know he did not have any judicial experience when he was appointed chief justice, and yet he is considered the person who had the most influence on Constitutional Law? Have you ever heard of John Marshall? His single greatest attribute, which has been lacking in many of the recent justices to SCOTUS was character.

John Marshall-Biography

Experience: No prior judicial experience. Marshall held many political offices at the state and national levels.

John Marshall was born in a log cabin on the Virginia frontier, the first of fifteen children. He was a participant in the Revolutionary War as a member of the 3d Virginia Regiment. He studied law briefly in 1780, and was admitted to practice the same year. He quickly established a successful career defending individuals against their pre-War British creditors.

Marshall served in Virginia's House of Delegates. He also participated in the state ratifying convention and spoke forcefully on behalf of the new constitution to replace the Articles of Confederation.

Marshall contemplated several offers to serve in the Washington and Adams administrations. He declined service as attorney general for Washington; he declined positions on the Supreme Court and as secretary of war under Adams. At Washington's direction, Marshall ran successfully for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives but his tenure there was brief. Adams offered Marshall the position of secretary of state, which Marshall accepted. When Ellsworth resigned as chief justice in 1800, Adams turned to the first chief justice, John Jay, who declined. Federalists urged Adams to promote associate justice William Paterson to the spot; Adams opted for Marshall.

Marshall's impact on American constitutional law is peerless. He served for more than 34 years (a record that few others have broken), he participated in more than 1000 decisions and authored over 500 opinions. As the single most important figure on constitutional law, Marshall's imprint can still be fathomed in the great issues of contemporary America. Other justices will surpass his single accomplishments, but no one will replace him as the Babe Ruth of the Supreme Court!

http://www.oyez.org/oyez/resource/legal_entity/13/overview

6 posted on 10/11/2005 6:05:13 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Matt sought to pour gasoline on the feminist fire, suggesting there might be "sexism" in the criticism of Miers. Concurred Laura: "that's possible. I think that's possible."

How is it "possible" if those same Conservatives opposing Miers almost simultaneously voice their approval of Janice Rogers Brown, Priscilla Owen, and other conservative female federal judges?

I support Harriet, but I can't see why the White House is sinking to these desperate levels to gain favor for their nominee.

7 posted on 10/11/2005 6:07:11 AM PDT by jla
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
W then delved into feminism, referring to Miers as having broken "the glass ceiling"

Not to be contrary, but did Janet Reno break "the glass ceiling"?

***

Let's just wait for the hearings. After all Arlen Sphincter told George Stuffingenvelopes on Sunday that he's going to get to the truth of what Dobson and Rove know. ;-)

Then we'll ask dear Arlen to confirm that Jack Ruby was just trying to spare Jackie Kennedy the pain of a trial by shooting Oswald.

;-)

8 posted on 10/11/2005 6:08:20 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Doctor, my eyes... tell me what is wrong...was I unwise to leave them open for so long)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
"judicial monastery."

Hooray President Bush!

9 posted on 10/11/2005 6:08:21 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Well, at least she's still better than Ter-ay-zah. :-\

Was Matt Lauer wearing men's clothes today, or was he dressed up like a teen pop idol again?


10 posted on 10/11/2005 6:08:34 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: GarySpFc

Thanks for posting the interesting information on Marshall, of which I was unaware.

However, as mentioned in the article here, the criticism from conservatives disappointed by the Miers nomination has nothing to do with her lack of judicial experience. It goes to the absence of anything in her record suggesting she is well-informed or concerned about the major constitutional issues of the day, whereas W had a deep bench of brilliant conservative scholars and jurists that he chose to overlook.


11 posted on 10/11/2005 6:10:18 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (check out my posts on Today show bias at www.newsbusters.org)
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To: TNCMAXQ

Matt & W were similarly, and I'd say appropriately, dressed for the circumstances, in Dockers type pants, with Matt sporting a blue business shirt without a tie and the President in a blue polo shirt.


12 posted on 10/11/2005 6:12:29 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (check out my posts on Today show bias at www.newsbusters.org)
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To: SerpentDove

"My respect for Laura just took a major hit."

So you are saying that none of the criticizm directed at Miers could possibly be sexist in nature? It's not even possible?


13 posted on 10/11/2005 6:13:53 AM PDT by L98Fiero
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To: PGalt
"judicial monastery."

Hooray President Bush!

I must respectfully disagree. The thrust of conservative criticism of Miers is directed not to her lack of judicial experience but to her lack of a record of knowledge or concern regarding the great constitutional issues of the day.

14 posted on 10/11/2005 6:14:42 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (check out my posts on Today show bias at www.newsbusters.org)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
The article has everything to do with Miers experience. The single most important quality missing in most of the recent justices to SCOTUS is character based on a strong morality, WHICH MIERS POSSESS.
15 posted on 10/11/2005 6:15:29 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: beyond the sea

well, J. Reno certainly broke the "mirrorred ceiling".


16 posted on 10/11/2005 6:16:29 AM PDT by tinytutu (Those who dance are thought mad by those who hear not the music. *Unknown*)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
MSNBC has already started the replay of Matt's interview with the President, which will continue all day, for certain.

This report is accurate with: , "Lauer cited a number of conservative critics of the nomination, then asked: "were you taken off-guard by the amount of criticism you're getting for Miers?""

But in the MSNBC replay, it's isn't Lauer who asked the question, "were you taken off-guard". It's a White House reporter back on the White House lawn who unequivacably (sp) told viewers, "the president was taken off guard". But what's a little misinformation on MSNBC?

17 posted on 10/11/2005 6:16:38 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@ God Bless President Bush As the MSM and Democrats Seek To Destroy Him.com)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

In other words, if Miers were not a woman and not a friend of the Bushes, she would not have been nominated. What a thing to admit on national TV!


18 posted on 10/11/2005 6:16:42 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I cringed when I heard Laura acknowledge sexism as a possible reason for conservatives to question the Miers pick. I was hoping Bush would step in to downplay that statement, but he didn't. This should not even be a question of sexism. Isn't it obvious that conservatives would have jumped at he chance to have a Janice Rogers Brown on the court? However, the sexism charge is a way for the media to gloss over the real reasons behind the consternation by many on the right...shifting focus from the interpretation of the Constitution...and it was disheartening to see Laura buy into that reasoning.

I did enjoy Bush saying "You're quoting a lot of Democrats today, aren't you Matt?"


19 posted on 10/11/2005 6:20:13 AM PDT by soloNYer (My state needs to be dragged to the woodshed for a severe beating.)
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To: YaYa123

That is very interesting. Thanks for alerting us to the discrepancy between the actual interview by Matt and the way MSNBC spun it.

Although W never specifically responded to Matt's question as to whether he was caught off guard, the thrust of his answer [that the criticism came because he chose someone without judicial experience] was to the effect he was NOT surprised.


20 posted on 10/11/2005 6:20:17 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (check out my posts on Today show bias at www.newsbusters.org)
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To: GarySpFc

I've always thought of John Marshall as the man who over-extended the court's reach and made it too powerful. I need to refresh my own memory as to why I feel this way.


21 posted on 10/11/2005 6:20:57 AM PDT by Puddleglum (Thank God the Boston blowhard lost)
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To: soloNYer
I did enjoy Bush saying "You're quoting a lot of Democrats today, aren't you Matt?"

That was a good one, wasn't it, as well as the sarcasm in W's voice when he referred to the 'prominent Democrat' Matt had cited who was demanding W produce his plan to rebuild New Orleans.

22 posted on 10/11/2005 6:22:08 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (check out my posts on Today show bias at www.newsbusters.org)
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To: Puddleglum

John Marshall was a Federalist.


23 posted on 10/11/2005 6:23:42 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Much as it pains me to say so, I was disappointed in Laura's performance, which drew almost exclusively on feminist themes in defending the Miers appointment.

Hmm. Maybe this explains the nomination? Could be that Laura has more political influence with the President than Karl Rove?

I love Laura, but I did not elect her, nor did I think I was getting a "two-fer" by electing Bush.

If this is what is going on, then my advice to her would be to back her moderate/liberal self out of the Oval Office. Her husband will suffer for her meddling.
24 posted on 10/11/2005 6:27:11 AM PDT by safisoft (Give me Torah!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
>>Matt sought to pour gasoline on the feminist fire, suggesting there might be "sexism" in the criticism of Miers. Concurred Laura: "that's possible. I think that's possible."<<

What bull. The conservatives (I consider myself one) have throw out the names of Janice Rogers Brown and Edith Jones as better picks than Harriet Miers. Matt or the dumbass who writes his cue cards had no business asking that question.
25 posted on 10/11/2005 6:29:38 AM PDT by jackieaxe (English speaking, law abiding, taxpaying citizen)
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To: jackieaxe

Agreed. There are any number of women nominees who would have been cheered by conservatives. And who has been condemned as the worst kind of Republican appointment? David Souter, who, at least nominally, is a man.


26 posted on 10/11/2005 6:32:43 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (check out my posts on Today show bias at www.newsbusters.org)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
The thrust of conservative criticism of Miers is directed...to her lack of a record of knowledge or concern regarding the great constitutional issues of the day.

Look, just because one doesn't have a record doesn't mean they aren't qualified. David Souter had a record, and so did Anthony Kennedy...ones that looked "conservative" on their face. Bush I and Reagan both picked these "conservative" jurists, and both have become a JOKE.

I submit this demand for a "record" is not as important as some think.

Was a "record" on writing about the constitutional issues of the day a regular requirement for SCOTUS justices in the past?? Or is this demand for a "record" a modern-day insistence on the part of conservatives and liberals alike?

The President is authorized by the Constitution to appoint these judges, and the Senate advises and consents--nothing (as far as I know) in the historical record or the Constitution says anything about REQUIRING the nominee to have a record on writing about the Constitution.

Look, I'm not saying it is BAD to have a record--but it isn't necessarily an indicator of future behavior. Souter and Kennedy prove that in spades.

27 posted on 10/11/2005 6:38:59 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Russ

If that's all it took for your respect to take a "major hit" you couldn't have had much to begin with.


I was thinking the same thing. Laura Bush is nothing but class. Why would she not stand up for her husband and his pick. She knows Miers like W does. Yet, the naysayers are so ticked with the President it takes nothing for them to sway with the wind.


28 posted on 10/11/2005 6:39:48 AM PDT by JFC
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To: soloNYer
I did enjoy Bush saying "You're quoting a lot of Democrats today, aren't you Matt?"

Also, enjoyed it when President Bush said "...depends on who's asking the questions".

Bravo, Mr. President!

29 posted on 10/11/2005 6:42:50 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: SerpentDove

So, you're the one making all these topsy-turvy poll numbers for the president and the economy? Do you speculate on oil prices, too?


30 posted on 10/11/2005 6:49:13 AM PDT by rabidralph
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To: DCPatriot

I don't think Matt and the liberal press gang understands that a conservative can disapprove of the Miers pick and yet still back Bush and republicans. Through their prism, the MSM sees this as an opportunity for Dems to regain power, and conveniently forget their view that we're in lockstep with the party. Yes, since they're a little upset they're all voting for Hillary! Maybe they'll start watching "Commander In Chief!"


31 posted on 10/11/2005 6:57:21 AM PDT by soloNYer (My state needs to be dragged to the woodshed for a severe beating.)
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To: TNCMAXQ
That boy ain't right.

32 posted on 10/11/2005 7:09:19 AM PDT by evets (God bless president Bush!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Considering Ann Coulter has called her a "legal secretary" and "the cleaning lady,", Michelle Malkin has made a big deal about her bringing doughnuts to Sunday school, David Frum has argued that she is too accomodating and conciliatory, and various posters here have knocked her because she wears eyeliner, has never married, and is a "follower", I think Laura had a pretty good point. Besides, all she said was it was possible, not probable.

In addition, I made a special effort to watch the interview, and I think you were seeing body language that wasn't there. I thought the President seemed just as confident with the Mier questions, and restrained his natural inclination to say that the pundits are a bunch of kibitzers who don't know who they are talking about. I would have been far less kind.

I am waiting for the hearings. Either she is a lightweight or she will do a good job.

33 posted on 10/11/2005 7:10:33 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: Miss Marple

I must applaud you on an excellent post. You cited chapter and verse to substantiate the notion that sexism is possibly in play.

Also, ever since I've begun doing the NewsBusters posts, I've been videotaping Today. So I was able to go back and watch the interview again, and frankly there probably is something to your comment about body language. However, as a matter of substance, I would say W's handling of Katrina surpassed his responses on Miers. But again, that possibly also reflects my disappointment at her nomination.

In any case, as you suggest, the hearings should be fascinating, as Miers is sure to be subjected to a pop quiz on constitutional law. If you take Specter's remark about Miers needing a "crash course," and her sherpa Sen. Coats saying that top intellectual credentials shouldn't be necessary for the job, I think it's fair to imagine she could be in for a bumpy ride.


34 posted on 10/11/2005 7:17:28 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (check out my posts on Today show bias at www.newsbusters.org)
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To: tinytutu
well, J. Reno certainly broke the "mirrorred ceiling".

.............. sounds funny...... but.... I'm so confused.

;-)

????

35 posted on 10/11/2005 7:27:06 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Doctor, my eyes... tell me what is wrong...was I unwise to leave them open for so long)
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To: beyond the sea

Disturbing image floating around of Reno in room with mirrored ceiling!

Reminds me of the old joke about those honeymoon hotels with a government label on the ceiling mirrors: "WARNING: objects are smaller than they appear in the mirror!" ;-)


36 posted on 10/11/2005 7:39:32 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (check out my posts on Today show bias at www.newsbusters.org)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

ROFL!


37 posted on 10/11/2005 7:40:47 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Doctor, my eyes... tell me what is wrong...was I unwise to leave them open for so long)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Did you happen to catch Matt Lauer refer to President Bush as Mr. Clinton, just as he led into the Meirs segment?


38 posted on 10/11/2005 7:44:24 AM PDT by Sweetjustusnow (The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them away. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Sweetjustusnow

I missed that! I know he did refer to the nominee as "Justice Miers," then observe that perhaps he was getting a bit ahead of himself!


39 posted on 10/11/2005 7:48:17 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (check out my posts on Today show bias at www.newsbusters.org)
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To: Puddleglum
I've always thought of John Marshall as the man who over-extended the court's reach and made it too powerful. I need to refresh my own memory as to why I feel this way

I was thinking that on another thread; luckily, someone saved me the trouble. See this post.

40 posted on 10/11/2005 7:52:27 AM PDT by maryz
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To: soloNYer
I did enjoy Bush saying "You're quoting a lot of Democrats today, aren't you Matt?"

I was ROTFLMAO when I heard him say that. Matt and Katie are pretty good at quoting Democrats, since they serve as mouthpieces for the DNC.

41 posted on 10/11/2005 8:06:29 AM PDT by flair2000
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To: SerpentDove
"My respect for Laura just took a major hit."

Right. Whenever I hear of someone suggesting a possibility, my opinion of the person ratchets down several notches.

42 posted on 10/11/2005 8:11:08 AM PDT by Chunga (Mock The Left)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
It goes to the absence of anything in her record suggesting she is well-informed or concerned about the major constitutional issues of the day,

There is nothing that you can point to that says she is not informed or concerned about the "constitutional issues of the day " (whatever the hell that means).

She is not a constitutional lawyer, which, BTW, is just fine, as far as someone like Antonin Scalia is concerned. So, naturally, she's not going to be babbling about the Constitution at every turn.

Wait for the hearings. We'll all get to decide then.

43 posted on 10/11/2005 8:18:53 AM PDT by sinkspur (If you're not willing to give Harriett Miers a hearing, I don't give a damn what you think.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
-bump-

A really good piece. Thank you so very much for the fair and extended desrciption and commentary.

44 posted on 10/11/2005 8:23:05 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: tinytutu
well, J. Reno certainly broke the "mirrorred ceiling".

Darn, you beat me to it!!!

45 posted on 10/11/2005 8:23:22 AM PDT by TX Bluebonnet
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To: Puddleglum

Marbury v. Madison


46 posted on 10/11/2005 8:27:19 AM PDT by ContemptofCourt
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To: Cboldt

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it.


47 posted on 10/11/2005 10:53:56 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (check out my posts on Today show bias at www.newsbusters.org)
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To: soloNYer; governsleastgovernsbest

Since she was picked BECAUSE she's a woman, isn't that still sexism?


48 posted on 10/11/2005 11:00:30 AM PDT by subterfuge (Obama, mo mama...er Osama-La bamba, uh, bama...banana rama...URP!---Ted Kennedy)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Indeed..


49 posted on 10/11/2005 11:41:17 AM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: subterfuge

Yes, kind of a double-edged sword there isn't it? Reasons to support her: she's a woman who "broke barriers." Reason not to support her: she's a woman. Either way, a sexist thought pattern.

Men were completely out of the running, not qualified since they didn't break any barriers due to not being women.

How can an intellectual conservative seriously base their nomination for Supreme Court on gender, as opposed to picking the best person for the job??


50 posted on 10/11/2005 11:47:37 AM PDT by soloNYer (My state needs to be dragged to the woodshed for a severe beating.)
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