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High court says execute Crips founder (Stanley "Tookie" Williams)
AP - San Diego Union Tribune ^ | Oct 11, 2005 | David Kravets

Posted on 10/11/2005 4:29:14 PM PDT by calcowgirl

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- The Supreme Court refused Tuesday to take the case of California death row inmate Stanley "Tookie" Williams, a founder of the Crips street gang whose later work for peace won him Nobel Peace Prize nominations.

Williams, who has been praised for his children's books and efforts to curtail youth gang violence, likely will be executed in December if Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger does not grant clemency. The 51-year-old former gang member claims Los Angeles County prosecutors violated his rights when they dismissed all potential black jurors.

Williams, who claims he is innocent, is in line to be one of three California condemned inmates to be executed within months. He was condemned for killing four people in 1981 and claims jailhouse informants fabricated testimony that he confessed to the murders.

"We feel very strongly that this is an appropriate case for clemency because of what Stan has accomplished," said Andrea Asaro, one of Williams' attorneys.

While in San Quentin State Prison, Williams has been nominated five times for a Nobel Peace Prize and four times for the Nobel Prize for literature for his series of children's books and international peace efforts intended to curtail youth gang violence. His case reached the justices following a February decision by the San Francisco-based 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. That court, as did the Supreme Court, refused to grant Williams another hearing based on his argument that prosecutors violated his rights when they dismissed all potential black jurors from hearing the case.

The San Francisco appellate court had suggested he was a good candidate for clemency. The judges cited the children's books he has written from prison, in addition to messages of peace he posts on the Internet.

The California Criminal Justice Legal Foundation is urging against clemency, and no California governor has granted clemency to a condemned murderer since Ronald Reagan spared the life of a severely brain-damaged killer in 1967.

"Perhaps now he will finally get the punishment that a jury unanimously agreed he deserved," said the group's president, Michael Rushford.

Schwarzenegger has rejected clemency for the first two condemned men asking to commute their sentences to life without parole. In Schwarzenegger's latest rejection in January, he said an inmate's model behavior in prison was not enough to sway him to grant mercy. That inmate, Donald Beardslee, was executed days later.

Williams and a high school buddy, Raymond Washington, started the Crips street gang in Los Angeles in 1971.

Williams was sentenced to death in 1981 for fatally shooting Albert Owens, a Whittier convenience store worker. He also was convicted of using a shotgun a few days later to kill two Los Angeles motel owners and their daughter during a robbery.

Last year, "Redemption: The Stan Tookie Williams Story" aired on television, prompting thousands of e-mail messages to Williams from young gang members who said his life story helped them turn their lives around.

"Today is a shameful day in the history of American jurisprudence," said Barbara Becnel, a Williams confidant who edited Williams' nine children's books. "Today the U.S. Supreme Court has said in its ruling essentially that it is OK for a white prosecutor to kick all of the African Americans off of a jury."

The justices, meanwhile, on Tuesday also set aside legal challenges from California condemned inmate Michael Morales, now 45, who raped and killed a 17-year-old Lodi girl whose body as found beaten and stabbed in a nearby vineyard 24 years ago. Authorities are seeking a February execution for Morales.

Among other things, Morales challenged a jury's finding that the murder was committed while torturing the victim - which was the basis for the death sentence.

Last week, the justices also paved the way for the execution of Clarence Allen, a leader of a Fresno crime ring who ordered three killings from Folsom State Prison where he already was serving time for murder. Prosecutors are seeking a January execution for Allen.

The cases are Williams v. Brown, 04-10500; Morales v. Brown, 05-23; Allen v. Brown, 04-10556.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 1979; aouttimepasttime; clemency; crips; deathpenalty; deathrow; gangs; killedandlaughed; killer; pcp; tookie; toolong; urbanbarbarian; urbanbarbarians
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1 posted on 10/11/2005 4:29:23 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

For shizzle

Make him sizzle.


2 posted on 10/11/2005 4:30:52 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: BenLurkin

Burn Tookie, Burn!


3 posted on 10/11/2005 4:34:09 PM PDT by A. Morgan
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To: BenLurkin

But he posts messages of peace on the internet. Doesn't that count for anything?


4 posted on 10/11/2005 4:35:19 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: calcowgirl

I'm sure the Nobel Peace Prize can still be awarded to him posthumously.....


5 posted on 10/11/2005 4:35:44 PM PDT by texianyankee
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To: calcowgirl

Any "good" he has done is far outweighed by his past with the crips.


6 posted on 10/11/2005 4:35:58 PM PDT by jess35
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To: A. Morgan

but?..but?.....zzzKKKJZZZZZZJZKZKKZZK!!!


7 posted on 10/11/2005 4:36:07 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Nothing fills the void of a passing hurricane better than government)
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To: calcowgirl

...can we assume these A.C.L.U. (America's Crimminal Love Us) lawyers...


8 posted on 10/11/2005 4:36:52 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: BenLurkin

He should be forgiven his sins by all of us because of the Good Work he has done since. That said, forgiven means that we can shake his hand as he goes to the death chamber. He still has to pay the price. Redemption means that he is perhaps in better standing vis a vis Heaven and Hell. It does not mean that punishment is remitted.


9 posted on 10/11/2005 4:37:02 PM PDT by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: calcowgirl
"Today the U.S. Supreme Court has said in its ruling essentially that it is OK for a white prosecutor to kick all of the African Americans off of a jury."

If he was innocent then she'd be saying "today is a sad day. An innocent man has been condemned to death". Instead she says it's a sad day because of some racial issue involving jury selection. Doesn't sound like she's all that convinced of his innocence.

10 posted on 10/11/2005 4:37:40 PM PDT by Numbers Guy
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To: Mr. Lucky
"Tookie Tookie"
11 posted on 10/11/2005 4:41:27 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: BenLurkin
Here's hopin'
he'll be smokin'


13 posted on 10/11/2005 4:44:44 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence - R. Kirk)
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To: ThanhPhero

well put!


14 posted on 10/11/2005 4:44:54 PM PDT by Zeppelin (Stop Global Warming. Shut a Liberal's Mouth.)
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To: jess35

"In 1979, Williams and three accomplices got together to smoke some PCP and rob some local merchants in Whittier, CA. After unsuccessful attempts to rob a liquor store and a restaurant, the group robbed a 7-Eleven store at gunpoint.

"After ordering the clerk to his knees, Williams killed him with a gun shot to the head. He later laughed as he told his friends how the victim gurgled as he lay dying.

"Two weeks later, Williams murdered a motel owner, his wife and daughter during a robbery that netted $50."

http://www.cjlf.org/releases/05-04.htm


15 posted on 10/11/2005 4:50:08 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: calcowgirl

Bye "Tookie". You won't be missed.


16 posted on 10/11/2005 4:51:21 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Bush! Go Sharon!)
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To: calcowgirl
He was condemned for killing four people in 1981 and claims jailhouse informants fabricated testimony that he confessed to the murders.

The testimony of four jailbirds regarding a supposed confession (to them) while in prison is hellishly thin to hang somebody over.

There are three thing I'd have to have before I'd ever feel good about capital punishment anymore:

This case clearly doesn't pass muster on any of those conditions.

17 posted on 10/11/2005 4:55:03 PM PDT by tamalejoe
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To: calcowgirl
Williams has been nominated five times for a Nobel Peace Prize and four times for the Nobel Prize for literature...

By whom?

18 posted on 10/11/2005 4:56:06 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (Speaking several languages is an asset; keeping your mouth shut in one is priceless.)
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To: calcowgirl
Stanley "Tookie" Williams, a founder of the Crips street gang

Yo yo, don't step on the Bloods, yo.

19 posted on 10/11/2005 4:57:51 PM PDT by humblegunner (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.)
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To: calcowgirl
..in addition to messages of peace he posts on the Internet.

How does a death row inmate get internet access? Does he get satellite TV with HBO/Cinemax/Showtime too?

20 posted on 10/11/2005 4:58:23 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: calcowgirl

Dee Oh Double Gee ain't gonna be too happy about this.

Nonetheless, hooray for the Supreme Court!


21 posted on 10/11/2005 4:59:30 PM PDT by Vision Thing
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To: calcowgirl
Mr. Williams' entire appeal in a nutshell:

Maintain innocence in the brutal slayings that everyone knows he committed. He can't possibly be guilty because everyone's a racist. Some left-wing legislator in Switzerland loves his children's books and nominated him for the Nobel Peace Prize, so if we execute him we'd be executing a genius. Winnie Mandela visited him in prison. Jamie Foxx made a movie about him that Winnie even played a part in. Tookie became Christ-like in prison, so killing him makes us all Pontius Pilate. Did I mention that Winnie Mandela visited him? You're all racists. Thank you very much.

22 posted on 10/11/2005 4:59:40 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi!)
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To: calcowgirl
High court says execute Crips founder (Stanley "Tookie" Williams)

Just for the record, the AP and San Diego Union have not let an opportunity go by not to put unuttered words in the mouths of others. That is not what the SC said. They simply denied cert. for review. Period.

23 posted on 10/11/2005 5:01:41 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: calcowgirl

They gave a Nobel Peace Prize to Yassir Arafat. He deserved to fry, too.


24 posted on 10/11/2005 5:02:05 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

Yeah, he's really living the high life on death row.

Man, free Internet? Those guys have it great.


25 posted on 10/11/2005 5:02:13 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: The KG9 Kid

lol, nice summary.

Not too dissimilar from the summary of those defending Mumia, just thinking about it.


26 posted on 10/11/2005 5:03:55 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: BenLurkin

He Tookie...........
Now WE Takee


27 posted on 10/11/2005 5:04:47 PM PDT by calrighty ( Terrorists are like cockroaches . Kill em all soon, so they can find out there ain't no virgins)
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To: FreedomPoster

All of the obviously guilty are the most innocent, you racist.


28 posted on 10/11/2005 5:05:48 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi!)
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To: tamalejoe
The testimony of four jailbirds regarding a supposed confession (to them) while in prison is hellishly thin to hang somebody over.

If that was the sole basis for the prosecution argument for the death penalty then it's highly doubtful we'd be having this discussion.

29 posted on 10/11/2005 5:05:53 PM PDT by Horatio Gates (Ski Tibet!)
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To: calcowgirl

FRY HIM!!! The sooner the better!


30 posted on 10/11/2005 5:06:28 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules ("Don't get Stuck On Stupid" and "Did I mention I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night"?)
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To: tamalejoe
You're right. We should free Mumia while we're at it.

FREE MUMIA

Oh yeah, sarcasm off

31 posted on 10/11/2005 5:07:49 PM PDT by ChuckHam
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To: calcowgirl

He should be executed for the Nobel Peace Prize nomination alone, on principle.


32 posted on 10/11/2005 5:07:49 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Bush's judicial philosophy - Illegals should have more rights than you)
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To: Mr. Lucky
But he posts messages of peace on the internet. Doesn't that count for anything?

It got him nominated for the Nobel Piece Prize!

And, he writ books for 'da chillin's too!

33 posted on 10/11/2005 5:09:09 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: calcowgirl

34 posted on 10/11/2005 5:10:04 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: texianyankee
I'm sure the Nobel Peace Prize can still be awarded to him posthumously.....

Maybe he will be nominated along with Muima next year...

35 posted on 10/11/2005 5:10:23 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: calcowgirl

"Last year, "Redemption: The Stan Tookie Williams Story" aired on television, prompting thousands of e-mail messages to Williams from young gang members who said his life story helped them turn their lives around."

That's good. But if he hadn't STARTED the gangs...perhaps these people wouldn't have had to TURN THEIR LIVES AROUND!


36 posted on 10/11/2005 5:11:56 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

"Williams has been nominated five times for a Nobel Peace Prize and four times for the Nobel Prize for literature..."

Anyone can nominate anyone for a Nobel Prize. One just needs to file the application and fee. They just mentioned it in the article because it sounds official. The guy is a turd. Soon to be a steaming turd.


37 posted on 10/11/2005 5:12:26 PM PDT by takbodan (.)
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To: rlmorel
"... That's good. But if he hadn't STARTED the gangs...perhaps these people wouldn't have had to TURN THEIR LIVES AROUND!"

Exactly.

"Don't smoke crack. Take it from me, I invented it."

38 posted on 10/11/2005 5:14:28 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi!)
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To: The KG9 Kid

Is Tookie a Christian?


39 posted on 10/11/2005 5:15:00 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: Mr. Jeeves
"By whom?"

According to the articles I've read, Williams was nominated by a handful of Swiss members of Parliament who are anti-death penalty. That and a TV movie glorifying him are part of the campaign of the left to use him to turn public sentiment against capital punishment.

40 posted on 10/11/2005 5:15:12 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: calcowgirl

Maybe he can take cop killer Mumia with him when he goes.


41 posted on 10/11/2005 5:17:36 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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To: calcowgirl
Image hosted by Photobucket.com BURN that POS!!!
42 posted on 10/11/2005 5:18:08 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: calcowgirl
Know Gangs would like to remind all, for every one person like Williams, there are hundreds of others who grew up in the same environment with the same problems, struggles and trials, who instead dedicated their lives to helping others rather than gangs, drugs and victimizing the weak. It is those people who escaped the gang infested neighborhoods that deserve our respect and support not a four-time murderer.
43 posted on 10/11/2005 5:22:14 PM PDT by P.O.E. (.)
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To: ThanhPhero
Yeah. That's pretty much how I feel. He has at least tried to undo some of the harm he did. He has repented for his gang activities and changed his behavior I give him props for that.

I am ambivalent about executing him, but I think it is the appropriate action. Life is sometimes messy, and the best path is seldom the easy one...

44 posted on 10/11/2005 5:23:35 PM PDT by null and void (Bringing Faith to the Doubtful, and Doubt to the Faithful)
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To: The KG9 Kid

LOL

Black online buddy from Philly told me that if I wore my "Fry Mumia" t-shirt there, I could drive as fast as I wanted, and get off with no more than a warning. He agrees with the sentiment, by the way.

http://www.thoseshirts.com/images/shirtsquare-mumia.jpg


45 posted on 10/11/2005 5:23:43 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: calcowgirl; BenLurkin; reagan_fanatic; Mr. Jeeves; Rightwing Conspiratr1; The KG9 Kid; Publius; ...
Thursday :: August 04, 2005

Bush Sends Commendation Letter to Gang Leader on Death Row

President Bush has sent a letter, accompanying an award, to the founder of the Crips gang who is on Death Row in California.

The letter praises death row inmate Stanley "Tookie" Williams for demonstrating "the outstanding character of America." ___________________________________________________________

I understand sometime after the letter and award was sent, the White House was trying to figure out who Tookie was, and what they should do now....

OHHHHH!!!

46 posted on 10/11/2005 5:24:03 PM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: tamalejoe

He founded the Crips.

This is not a debate. Therefore, he is the founder of a domestic terrorist organization.

I'm pretty sure he's guilty too. There's other evidence out there.


47 posted on 10/11/2005 5:24:30 PM PDT by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: The KG9 Kid
Maintain innocence in the brutal slayings that everyone knows he committed.

I'm not even sure there's that. He claims inadequate defense and prosecutorial misconduct, but never actual innocence that I can see.

48 posted on 10/11/2005 5:27:35 PM PDT by Heyworth
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To: calcowgirl

Whole lotta good "redemption" did Carla Faye Tucker.


49 posted on 10/11/2005 5:27:39 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: P.O.E.

Self-edit: That should have been in quotes, being a snip directly from the website.


50 posted on 10/11/2005 5:28:00 PM PDT by P.O.E. (.)
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