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John Rutledge: A Case Study in Senate rejection of a SCOTUS nominee
University of Maryland ^ | August 1994 | John Anthony Maltese

Posted on 10/12/2005 8:03:39 AM PDT by Huck

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To: Huck
And that's the vision right there in plain English.

OK, I see your point. But I think it is possible to get leadership with a good vision. Call me hopelessly optimistic.

21 posted on 10/12/2005 9:12:40 AM PDT by Always Right
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It's the not getting an up or down vote that is the difference.

I don't see it that way. Nowadays, we have the Judiciary Committee, which can reject a nominee. In that scenario, 10 votes out of 100 are enough to reject a nominee. The Senate can manage it that way if they want. Or they can filibuster. Or not. I don't care if a nominee gets an "up or down" vote. I just care if my interests are advanced or not. Who cares if Bader Ginsburg gets an up or down vote? I don't. Why should I? I don't care about that at all, and the Constitution does not even require it.

22 posted on 10/12/2005 9:13:45 AM PDT by Huck (Miers Miers Miers Miers Miers--I'm mired in Miers.)
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To: Huck
I was simply pointing out that even though Rudledge was opposed by Hamilton, he still got a vote on the floor.

Debate is one thing, denying a vote is another altogether. I've said since the beginning, if the Democrats truly feel a nominee is unqualified, let them debate it all day long. Let them go on record as to WHY they feel they are unqualified. Basically LET THEM FILIBUSTER!

It's our pansy side that doesn't want a filibuster because then THEY have to stay on the job while it happens. Well, darnit, that's what they get PAID for. Bring out the cots!

And the fight, that so many here say was a bad thing for us to want... HELLO!? Get the Dems on record with their kooky beliefs & opposition. Let JRB state her position and let the Dems attack. I TRULY believe the majority of Americans would side with JRB, and originalism. No doubt about it in my mind!

23 posted on 10/12/2005 9:19:32 AM PDT by mosquitobite (What we permit; we promote. ~ Mark Sanford for President!)
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To: Always Right

Amen!


24 posted on 10/12/2005 9:22:26 AM PDT by mosquitobite (What we permit; we promote. ~ Mark Sanford for President!)
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To: Huck

Hmmm...interesting theory.


25 posted on 10/12/2005 9:32:12 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (The sacrifices of God are a broken and contrite heart. Ps. 51:17)
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To: Huck

this is my tipping point

the GOP needs a reckoning...or at least a good try at one


26 posted on 10/12/2005 9:39:07 AM PDT by wardaddy (Save a cow......eat a vegetarian.)
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I'm tipping towards apathy.


27 posted on 10/12/2005 10:01:40 AM PDT by Huck (Miers Miers Miers Miers Miers--I'm mired in Miers.)
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To: Huck

until something better and viable comes along I will still vote for the sorry lot

in the meantime...fights...like this one....to make them heel to course


28 posted on 10/12/2005 10:06:17 AM PDT by wardaddy (Save a cow......eat a vegetarian.)
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Yeah, I'll still vote. But correct me if I am wrong. I could have spent the last, let's say 30 years, just voting GOP without knowing a single issue, or even what the candidate stands for, and I'd be doing just as good a job as if I paid attention. I am starting to wonder what's the point of bothering. Unless we're going to replace the Democrat party with a viable pro America party, aren't we stuck on the plantation? I voted libertarian in 00. My vote for GW in 04 was the first time I ever voted for either major party on the nat'l level. State politics is a little different. I actually like my congressman, Scott Garrett. I think he might actually be a good egg.


29 posted on 10/12/2005 10:11:52 AM PDT by Huck (Miers Miers Miers Miers Miers--I'm mired in Miers.)
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To: Huck

that is a good point....what does it matter more or less unless droves don't vote or go third
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the Dems have passion....a lot of us do not


30 posted on 10/12/2005 5:10:46 PM PDT by wardaddy (Save a cow......eat a vegetarian.)
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