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To: King Prout
And people wonder why I approve of dueling.

People this insane are a danger to all those around them. Sarah Brady is a seriously ill person.

19 posted on 10/12/2005 1:13:06 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be. -El Neil)
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To: Dead Corpse

you ain't wrong.
the VPC excels in smoke and mirrors.
look at their BS regarding guns and kids.
note the total lack of raw data or explanation of sampling methodology.
You'd get the impression that kids are dying left and right in the US, going by their "Prime fact: the US death rate for kids <14 is TWELVE TIMES that of..."
blah blah blah.
but, if you actually look up the REAL data, you find:

http://www.nsc.org/lrs/statfaq.htm

Children Killed by Guns

How many children are killed by guns is a complicated question. The answer depends on a number of factors, including age range, and whether homicide, suicide, and/or unintentional-injuries are included in the figure. If the age range is 0-19 years, and homicide, suicide, and unintentional injuries are included, then the total firearms-related deaths for 1999 is 3,385 . This is equivalent to about 9 deaths per day, a figure commonly used by journalists. The 3,385 firearms-related deaths for age group 0-19 breaks down to 214 unintentional, 1,078 suicides, 1,990 homicides, 83 for which the intent could not be determined, and 20 due to legal intervention. Viewed by age group, 73 of the total firearms-related deaths were of children under 5 years old, 416 were children 5-14 years old, and 2,896 were 15-19 years old. See page 127 of the 2002 edition of Injury Facts ®.

So: including ALL causes (deliberate homicide, suicide, and misadventure), in 1999 we had a whopping total of 492 children <15 years old die by gunfire.

then, we have the following:
http://muextension.missouri.edu/explore/hesguide/humanrel/gh6026.htm

Table 1
United States' Injury Death Rates by Type of Injury and Age (1996)

Number of deaths by age group ....//Birth to 4// 5 to 9// 10 to 14// 15 to 19
Total unintentional injury deaths ........2,895 .....1,564..... 1,824...... 6,735
Selected unintentional injury death types
Motor vehicle occupant, traffic-related 514 ........359 ........531........ 3,566
Pedestrian, traffic-related ..................225 ........264 ........234 ..........279
Bicyclist, traffic-related ....................4 ..........81 ........112 ...........65
Drowning ......................................533 ........223 ........225 ..........388
Residential fire .................................451 ........192 ..........97 ............70
Fall ...................................................55 ..........30 ..........21 ............94
Firearm ..........................................17 .........27 ...........94 ..........238
Suffocation and choking ....................532 .........57 ...........77 ............67
Poisoning ..........................................57 .........18 ...........34 ...........190

Source
Compressed Mortality files, National Center for Health Statistics, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. As cited in Grossman, David C. (2000). The History of Injury Control and the Epidemiology of Child and Adolescent Injuries. The Future of Children, 10(1), 23-52.

funny... they don't seem too hot to ban bicycles and swimming pools, do they?


21 posted on 10/12/2005 1:35:18 PM PDT by King Prout ("La LAAAA La la la la... oh [bleep!] Gargamel has a FLAMETHROWEEEEEAAAAAAARRRRRGH!")
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