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China turns down Mugabe’s farm offer
www.zwnews.com ^ | Wed 12-Oct-2005 | Zim Online (SA)

Posted on 10/13/2005 11:41:56 PM PDT by ncoaster

Harare - China has turned down an offer by President Robert Mugabe’s government to take over farms seized from whites apparently because Beijing feared there was no guarantee that such an investment would be secure in the long term, authoritative sources said. Zimbabwe has since last April attempted to hammer a joint-venture deal with China that would enable resource-rich farmers from the Asian giant to enter into partnerships with the Harare government to farm land seized from whites and help resuscitate the southern African country’s collapsed agricultural sector. But sources said China has developed cold feet on the planned deal worried by Harare’s ever shifting land laws and policies in particular a controversial constitutional amendment last month that virtually nationalises all agricultural land. "There is unlikely to be a deal. The government was desperate to bring the Chinese over, but complications have arisen in light of the new laws nationalising farmland," said a senior official in Zimbabwe’s Ministry of Agriculture, who is privy to the negotiations between Harare and Beijing.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; mugabe; zimbabwe
Thought this would be interesting. Mugabe's list of allies grows thin...
1 posted on 10/13/2005 11:41:59 PM PDT by ncoaster
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To: ncoaster
"China has turned down an offer by President Robert Mugabe’s government to take over farms seized from whites apparently because Beijing feared there was no guarantee that such an investment would be secure in the long term, authoritative sources said."

Translation: "We'd rather deal with Kim Bong Ill than YOU, you nut."
2 posted on 10/13/2005 11:44:32 PM PDT by decal (Mother Nature and Real Life are conservatives; the Progs have never figured this out.)
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To: ncoaster

LOL.

Maybe he can get castro or chavez to send some help.


3 posted on 10/13/2005 11:45:03 PM PDT by flashbunny
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To: ncoaster

That's rich. A country - China - now importing farming technology and knowledge from Western countries being asked to take over failing farms in a country that took farms away from successful western farmers.

China learned one important lesson in farming that applies to Zimbabwe today. It is a lesson that started the transformation of China from a state run dud into the bastion of free enterprise that it is today.

It is a lesson China learned when a few collective farms stood up to Bejing and said, look at how much food we are producing by allowing our farmers to grow a portion of their harvest for their own private sale.

If Zimbabwe wants its farms to be successful, China can do it a big favor by telling it to get the government out of farming - and give it back to the farmers.


4 posted on 10/14/2005 12:18:10 AM PDT by BJungNan
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To: BJungNan

The farmers have left.


5 posted on 10/14/2005 1:18:47 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: decal

dont count the chicoms out just yet. they seriously desire a boothold in africa, but they want it with a coastline, not landlocked. zim will still be in death throes next year so this deal could reappear with more favorable terms for china. but honestly, would anyone really care if zim disappeared tomorrow? i know i wouldnt because if you really really desire to starve, i think you should be allowed to starve.


6 posted on 10/14/2005 1:36:00 AM PDT by son of caesar (son of caesar)
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To: ncoaster
I don't think you can grow Rice in Zimbo anyway. Too arid.
7 posted on 10/14/2005 1:39:07 AM PDT by Shqipo (And so the great battle starts...)
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To: ncoaster

"As a result, food production has plummeted by an estimated 60 percent since 2000 when Mugabe began seizing farms from whites and giving them over to landless blacks."

"For example, an estimated four million people face starvation this year unless more than one million tonnes of food aid is urgently provided."

"Harare was also planning to seize more land from the few remaining white farmers and give it over to the firms."

So, the government, with millions starving, wants to kill the remaining 40% of food production.

I thought the black Africans were hot to use that farm land. I guess this is a case of cutting your nose off to spite your face.


8 posted on 10/14/2005 1:47:41 AM PDT by Razz Barry
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I thought the black Africans were hot to use that farm land.

That was before they realized that large scale commercial farming required more technology than scatching at the dirt with a stick, and more capital investment than throwing hundreds of so-call war veterans at the task.

The crop won't magically appear, ready for an easy harvest just because you wish it.

9 posted on 10/14/2005 3:02:04 AM PDT by woofer
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To: ncoaster
Heh… now there’s irony for you – a Communist government turning down a deal because they fear that another government’s expropriation of private property may be illegitimate!
10 posted on 10/14/2005 3:53:17 AM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas
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To: ncoaster
We're too stupid to farm bump.
11 posted on 10/14/2005 4:18:29 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: ncoaster
Robert Mugabe is a raciest little prick isn't he.
12 posted on 10/14/2005 7:20:32 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: decal
china's move away from communism (and towards fascism unfortunately) started when they allowed private farms and a fairly open food market, and were astonished to discover that private markets will actually keep china fed and make famine a thing of the terrible (communist) past...

the idiot mugabe must have thought that the chinese would set up one of those collective stalinist farms which he remembered reading about in the glowing communist propaganda he ingested when he was a university student -- *IF* there are actually any of these left in china, they are big money losers for the chinese PLA so they probably opted out when it became clear that mugabe was expecting china to make up the losses.

i am actually surprised the negociations went as far as they did...

13 posted on 10/14/2005 7:31:35 AM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: ncoaster
Heres an Idea give the farms to experienced, motivated, and well supplied people who have been doing it for generations... oh, wait... thats who you took the land from..
14 posted on 10/14/2005 7:33:58 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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If I were the chinese government, this is how I would think. If this African government took the farmland from white owners by force, they'd do it to chinese owners too.


15 posted on 10/16/2005 10:29:26 PM PDT by s_asher
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