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Kristol: Criminalizing Conservatives
The Weekly Standard ^ | 10/24/05 | William Kristol

Posted on 10/15/2005 5:57:34 AM PDT by Pokey78

Fall of 2005 will be remembered as a time when it became clear that a strategy of criminalization had been implemented to inflict defeat on conservatives.

THE MOST EFFECTIVE CONSERVATIVE LEGISLATOR of--oh--the last century or so, Congressman Tom DeLay, was indicted last month for allegedly violating Texas campaign finance laws, and has vacated his position as House majority leader. The Senate majority leader, Bill Frist, is under investigation by the Justice Department and the Securities and Exchange Commission for his sale of stock in the medical company his family started.

White House deputy chief of staff Karl Rove and vice presidential chief of staff Scooter Libby have been under investigation by a special federal prosecutor, Patrick Fitzgerald, for more than two years. When appointed in 2003 by the Bush Justice Department, Fitzgerald's mandate was to find out if the leaking to reporters of the identity of a CIA employee, Valerie Plame, was a violation of a 1982 statute known as the Philip Agee law, and if so, who violated it. It now seems clear that Rove and Libby are the main targets of the prosecutor, and that both are in imminent danger of indictment.

What do these four men have in common, other than their status as prosecutorial targets? Since 2001, they have been among the most prominent promoters of the conservative agenda of the Bush administration. For over four years, they have helped two strong conservatives, George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, successfully advance an agenda for change in America. To the extent these four are sidelined, there is a real chance that the Bush-Cheney administration will become less successful.

A number of analysts have argued that all this


fits a fairly predictable pattern of two-term presidents: a vigorous first term, followed by agenda fatigue and assorted scandals in the second term. Bill Clinton, after all, had his Monica Lewinsky, Ronald Reagan his Iran-contra, Nixon his Watergate. Even Dwight Eisenhower saw the resignation in disgrace of his powerful chief of staff, Sherman Adams, over the questionable gift of a vicuña coat.

The situation today, however, seems different. There was plenty of political polarization in those earlier presidencies, but today polarization divides more neatly along partisan lines. The earlier presidencies had plenty of internal ideological rifts, but the incidence of scandal and investigation was not exclusive to one side or the other.

In today's Washington, as has been true for decades, classified information is leaked by many different players in any given policy fight in the government. The Bush administration has been replete with leaks of presumably classified information. Is the identity of Valerie Plame the most consequential leak of the last four years? Are Rove and Libby bigger leakers than, say, the CIA's George Tenet or Richard Armitage at the State Department? Do no employees of the Central Intelligence Agency (almost universally anti-Bush and anti-conservative) ever leak anything? If so, have they been indicted, or investigated by a special prosecutor? Any prosecutor?

Much the same is true of DeLay's alleged laundering of soft (corporate and/or unlimited) money in 2002 races for the Texas legislature, where only hard money (limited, individual contributions) is allowed. At the press conference called by Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi to comment on the DeLay indictment and the "culture of corruption" fostered in Washington by conservative Republicans, she was asked about her own high-dollar soft-money fundraising--supposedly banned for members of Congress by the 2002 McCain-Feingold law--to defeat a ballot initiative on congressional redistricting sponsored by California governor Arnold Schwarzenegger. She replied that her soft-money fundraising was utterly different from DeLay's because it had been blessed by her campaign lawyers, and she never raises soft money while standing or sitting on government property. Without missing a beat, reporters at the Pelosi press conference dropped the awkward subject and returned the focus to DeLay and to the larger pattern of Republican corruption DeLay's indictment supposedly signifies.

Bill Frist suddenly and unexpectedly became Senate Majority Leader in December 2002. In the 2004 campaign, Frist broke Senate precedent and visited the state of his Democratic counterpart, Minority Leader Tom Daschle, to campaign for Daschle's Republican opponent.

Then, in 2005, Frist launched a campaign against Democratic judicial filibusters. Though he did not succeed in his goal of a Senate rules change, his efforts are widely believed to have greatly reduced the possibility that Democrats could successfully filibuster a Bush Supreme Court nominee. Having emerged in the last year as a conservative leader, Frist now finds himself under investigation. Just another coincidence?

Don't try selling the idea of coincidence to Kenneth Tomlinson, until recently the chairman of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB). Last May, the New York Times published a lengthy account of Tomlinson's efforts to bring increased balance to public television--i.e., giving a bit more of a hearing to conservatives. He commissioned a modest study to confirm what most everyone already knew, that the practice on shows produced or moderated by Bill Moyers is to interview conservatives and Republicans only when they are in disagreement with the predominant conservative or Republican position on a given issue.

Within days of the Times piece, Democratic congressmen David Obey and John Dingell, ranking minority members on two key committees, wrote a letter to the CPB inspector general, Kenneth Konz, demanding a detailed, elaborate investigation of Tomlinson. Not only did Konz comply, he asked Tomlinson to provide all his emails, which Tomlinson did, and conducted a search


of Tomlinson's office files without telling him. A few months later, in September, Konz gave an interview to Bloomberg News in which he confided, concerning an ongoing and incomplete investigation, "Clearly there are indications of possible violations." Konz later said he had been misunderstood, and that it was much too early to come to any conclusions.

Tomlinson's term as CPB chairman expired last month, though he remains a member of the board. But the inspector general's investigation of Tomlinson's conduct as chairman, designed by Obey and Dingell and their liberal staffers, continues with no end in sight.

Meanwhile, a kind of ideological criminalization of active, visible conservatives has become almost second nature to the left and the elite professions, including journalism and teaching, in which they predominate. Did Dick Cheney change his views on regime change in Iraq between 1991 and 2003? Don't ask him why. It's enough to give a one-word explanation of his views: "Halliburton." The unspoken premise is that Cheney changed his position to line his pockets.

And what was the left's central, most deeply felt image of the presidential campaign of 2004? Actively marketed by Dan Rather and CBS News, it was this: John Kerry was a war hero and George W. Bush went AWOL. AWOL is, of course, an acronym: "Absent Without Leave." In the military, being AWOL is a crime subject to court martial, and to lengthy imprisonment. So saying Bush was AWOL was not just an attempt to compare his military service unfavorably with Kerry's, which is fair enough. It was an attempt to criminalize Bush's military career. Though the attempt backfired when it became clear CBS had accepted faked evidence, Democratic and liberal elites were sold on the idea that "war hero" vs. "AWOL" was the key to undermining the widespread respect Bush had achieved by his response to 9/11.

Why are conservative Republicans, who control the executive and legislative branches of government for the first time in living memory, so vulnerable to the phenomenon of criminalization? Is it simple payback for the impeachment of Bill Clinton? Or is it a reflection of some deep malady at the heart of American politics? If criminalization is seen to loom ahead for every conservative who begins successfully to act out his or her beliefs in government or politics, is the project of conservative reform sustainable?

We don't pretend to have all the answers, or a solid answer even to one of these questions. But it's a reasonable bet that the fall of 2005 will be remembered as a time when it became clear that a comprehensive strategy of criminalization had been implemented to inflict defeat on conservatives who seek to govern as conservatives. And it is clear that thinking through a response to this challenge is a task conservatives can no longer postpone.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; cialeak; delay; frist; kristol; libby; pelosi; rino; rove

1 posted on 10/15/2005 5:57:35 AM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
Kristol: Criminalizing Conservatives

Bill has nothing to worry about.

2 posted on 10/15/2005 5:59:03 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Pokey78

I read somewhere else this morning that Delay's fundraising has set a new record high in the last three months. The democrats tactics continue to backfire.


3 posted on 10/15/2005 6:03:41 AM PDT by somemoreequalthanothers (All for the betterment of "the state", comrade)
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To: martin_fierro
Kristol may have nothing to fear but his headline is oh so correct. Criminalizing conservatives .. also include Christians.
4 posted on 10/15/2005 6:07:03 AM PDT by svcw
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To: Pokey78

The connect the dots exercise is fine.All too well known here at FR maybe. Question is, what is the GOP gonna do about it?
Can we also PLEASE throw up some shameless, focussed, disingenuous, victory-at-all-costs politicians in the Dem mould?

Come to think of it, the conservative movement has ceded critical areas like education, popular culture and civil rights to the leftie-libs. A blunder of such proportions is not w/o consequences. Unless we conservatives see another survival threatening crisis, I doubt we'll do what is necessary, unabashedly, to win....


5 posted on 10/15/2005 6:07:13 AM PDT by voletti (To go where no man has gone before....)
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To: Pokey78

You think Conservatives are being criminalized now? Wait till Hillary gets into the White House. They'll be putting them into concentration (excuse me, re-education) camps.


6 posted on 10/15/2005 6:09:00 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: Pokey78
Will the Patriot Act help or hinder President Rodham in such endeavors?
7 posted on 10/15/2005 6:11:21 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: rbg81

"You think Conservatives are being criminalized now? Wait till Hillary gets into the White House. They'll be putting them into concentration (excuse me, re-education) camps."

As in the case with her hubby, the hildebeast can only become prez if a third party draws off all the pubbie whiners as perot did. This may very well happen.



8 posted on 10/15/2005 6:13:42 AM PDT by fizziwig
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To: Pokey78
This is the situation: There are so many laws and regulations that everyone has probably committed a felony sometime in their life, almost all of them unknowingly.

Conservativss are held to the absolute letter of the law, even when trying their best to avoid violating any law, they sometimes fail. Now I don't think Delay has even done that.

On the other hand we have corruption by Liberals on a massive scale with stealing elections, stealing money, selling secrets to the enemy, sexual pervision, the list goes on and on. If anyone tries to hold them accountable, they are attacked in the most vicious manner by the media, and Democratic apparatus.

It really is that shocking.

9 posted on 10/15/2005 6:15:44 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: Pokey78
While not a fan of William "McCain" Kristol, he is dead on target with this piece.



10 posted on 10/15/2005 6:18:18 AM PDT by G.Mason
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To: fizziwig

Unfortunately, I think her chances are getting better all the time. The media is increasingly playing her up (no surprise there), she won't have any serious opposition in her party (maybe Kerry will challenge her, but they'll laugh him off), and the Republicans have no clear front runner. If the Republicans nominate McCain, look for the Press to smooze him during the primaries then turn on him over the "temper" & health issues in the general election. Its called the Rope-A-Dope strategy.


11 posted on 10/15/2005 6:24:13 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: Pokey78
Criminalization is a reflection of a deep malady at the heart of American politics..

If criminal prosecution is seen to loom ahead for every politician who begins to act out his or her beliefs in unconstitutional government or politics, perhaps reform will be sustainable.

We don't need to pretend to have all the answers, or a solid answer even to one of these questions.
But it's a reasonable bet that when it became clear that a comprehensive strategy of criminalization has been implemented to inflict defeat on politicians who seek to govern as socialists, that true reform would soon follow.
12 posted on 10/15/2005 6:26:53 AM PDT by faireturn
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To: Pokey78
You don't have to read down too far before he begins accusing this administration of classified leaks. The Plame leak being the most serious.

Kristol has truly lost his mind, but then I never thought he had much of an intellect.

More like a useful idiot for McCain.

13 posted on 10/15/2005 6:37:47 AM PDT by OldFriend (One Man With Courage Makes a Majority ~ Andrew Jackson)
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To: G.Mason

So you agree that this administration leaks classified information regularly?


14 posted on 10/15/2005 6:38:45 AM PDT by OldFriend (One Man With Courage Makes a Majority ~ Andrew Jackson)
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To: Pokey78

bflr


15 posted on 10/15/2005 6:46:08 AM PDT by King Prout ("La LAAAA La la la la... oh [bleep!] Gargamel has a FLAMETHROWEEEEEAAAAAAARRRRRGH!")
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To: OldFriend

Kristol is a ball-less, eunuch {redundant} pimp and panderer. He does not speak for me... ever. That weasel smile reminds me of ellis the pellican, the lefty mouthpiece. When kristol happens to speak the truth, it causes me to doubt my understanding of the facts.


16 posted on 10/15/2005 6:50:26 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: OldFriend

Kristol is a creep and so are all his "pile on for Hillary fans". All of you are dreaming.
And all of you are dead in the water.
The notion that betrayal in the ranks of disloyal conservatives somehow paves the way for your treachery is ridiculous.
Let's remember a key fact: You still don't have an agenda other than Hatred.


17 posted on 10/15/2005 6:51:08 AM PDT by CBart95
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To: voletti
Question is, what is the GOP gonna do about it?

Wow, that's a hard one. Let me hazard a guess: nothing?
18 posted on 10/15/2005 6:54:04 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: OldFriend
"So you agree that this administration leaks classified information regularly?"


Aw geeze


Are we gonna play I'm naive, your naive, this morning?


How's this ... All administrations have "leakers".

And for wht it's worth Kristol said "The Bush administration has been replete with leaks of presumably classified information."



19 posted on 10/15/2005 6:55:38 AM PDT by G.Mason
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To: voletti
Can we also PLEASE throw up some shameless, focussed, disingenuous, victory-at-all-costs politicians in the Dem mould?

We have. The name Tom Delay comes to mind.

20 posted on 10/15/2005 6:56:06 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: Pokey78

"If criminalization is seen to loom ahead for every conservative who begins successfully to act out his or her beliefs in government or politics, is the project of conservative reform sustainable?"

Yep! See the 2nd amendment. That's why it's there.


21 posted on 10/15/2005 6:56:47 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: martin_fierro

ROFL!


22 posted on 10/15/2005 6:57:05 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Doctor, my eyes... tell me what is wrong...was I unwise to leave them open for so long)
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To: Pokey78

Excellent title and excellent article.


23 posted on 10/15/2005 6:57:23 AM PDT by TAdams8591 (It's the Supreme Court, stupid!)
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To: CBart95; OldFriend
" ... All of you are dreaming. And all of you are dead in the water."


Just how many OldFriend's are there?



24 posted on 10/15/2005 6:58:53 AM PDT by G.Mason
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To: TalBlack
"Yep! See the 2nd amendment. That's why it's there."


It is be coming apparent that this may be much closer than we may think.



25 posted on 10/15/2005 7:01:24 AM PDT by G.Mason
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To: faireturn
I had similar thoughts. Whatever weapons the Dems use against us, we are morally entitled to use against them, in only in self-defense. Of course, when we do, we get complaints about how we are polarizing politics.
26 posted on 10/15/2005 7:13:14 AM PDT by chesley
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To: TalBlack

Well, don't be too sure about that (2nd Amendment that is). The states rights branch of conservatism allows states like mine to override the Bill of Rights. McCain and the big government branch of conservatism doesn't like the 2nd Amendment either. Bush is about to try to get rid of posse comitatus laws which prevent the use of the "standing army" for law enforcement inside our borders. Leftists sure don't like it and regularly infringe on our right to keep and bear arms too. All in all, we need to undo a LOT of legislation if the 2nd is going to work as intended. I hate to say it, but the Feds would win right now, they are better armed and if willing to abort the Constitution, the rest of us citizens couldn't stop them. Flame on.


27 posted on 10/15/2005 7:14:39 AM PDT by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: Pokey78
"Why are conservative Republicans, who control the executive and legislative branches of government for the first time in living memory, so vulnerable to the phenomenon of criminalization?"

First of all, conservative Republicans do NOT control the legislative branch, which of course, hamstrings the President. The legislative branch is controlled by a cabal of Senate Democrats and RINO's.......and when you get right down to it, the Senate is controlled by 6 or 7 faux Republicans in the McCain, Chaffee, Snowe mold. One might also add to this the "gang of 14" which deftly seized control in the judicial appointments process, again hamstringing the President.

Second, Republican solons don't know how to fight back and they never have. They are not alley-cat fighters like the Dems have always been. This pussiness is always praised by purists as being something "noble". About as "noble" as the phoney Nobel peace prizes.

Right off the bat, the "new tone" in DC disarmed the GOP victors. It lulled them, and soon, they preferred the state of lullness to any meaningful confrontations. The GOP elected hierarchy are, for the most part, paper tigers big on talk, short on wielding the big stick.

Mr. Krystal, you know the answer to your own question as well as we, you are just too delicate, sensitive and wussy to articulate it. Perhaps you fear a more manly critique of the fighting spirit of the DC GOP might hurt sales of your magazine. If so, then you are part of the problem.

Years ago, GOP "compassionate conservatism" in DC morphed into "dispassionate conservatism".....and therein lies the rub.

Leni

28 posted on 10/15/2005 7:21:02 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Re: The Anti-War Sheehan-ites - They want to live in the garden but not tend the garden)
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To: Pokey78

Kristol is such a glowing moderate that I'm rather surprised he could wrap his head around this concept, pleasantly surprised.


29 posted on 10/15/2005 7:32:35 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: G.Mason
I think you also should point out that folks from all administrations leak for a variety of reasons, some noble, some less so. When they do so they take a calculated risk.

There has been an excellent "example" in the last year's West Wing episodes (which imho are often very realistic though of course laced with left-wing bias).

The Chief of Staff disagrees with the President's policy on an important matter and leaks very top secret info to force him to change it. She wants to save lives in immediate danger, he is looking at longer term issues.

While the President rants and raves "find the leaker" the viewer gets to ponder what they would have done in a similar situation.

(The President can't find the leaker, though after an internal investigation he is told that it came from within the White House.)

Leaks are as much a part of DC inside baseball as diplomatic parties and secret meetings with key players frozen out of the discussion.
30 posted on 10/15/2005 7:45:01 AM PDT by cgbg (Need Katrina funding? Sell the airwaves.)
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To: martin_fierro
Bill has nothing to worry about.

That was good!

31 posted on 10/15/2005 7:46:34 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: RKV

"I hate to say it, but the Feds would win right now, they are better armed and if willing to abort the Constitution, the rest of us citizens couldn't stop them. Flame on."

The Fed's win when they can bully.

Theose nut-cases at Waco showed the Fed's for the cowards that they are when they plinked a few Feds and the Feds did what no Marine or Grunt could ever do in the same exact situation (without winding up in front of a fireing squad.)

The feds were better armed and the level of their defensive kit indicated an expectation of 'war'. Yet when they got the thing that is the setting for glory unparalleled---they broke and ran.

Another thing to consider is that those Fed agencies and, for that matter the military are staffed by a certain percentage of true, constitution respecting Americans.

I look it it this way: I am so out of phase with the PC, statist society that I live in that some clash--even if I am doing all I can to avoid it (which I would do)is inevitable--so I simply don't worry about anything.

Stick to your fundamental principles, get as near to Right as you can in any situation, and sleep the sleep of the just. And to hell with how well armed anyone is--is HE right or am I right--that's it at the end of the day


32 posted on 10/15/2005 7:47:29 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: USS Alaska

Get a life. You impress me so much with your great manliness, Mr. Macho.


33 posted on 10/15/2005 7:53:08 AM PDT by dinoparty
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To: DoughtyOne

A glowing moderate he is not. Unorthodox, yes...independant, yes...but I wouldn't call one of the three fathers of regime change in Iraq a "moderate".


34 posted on 10/15/2005 7:54:49 AM PDT by dinoparty
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To: yarddog

Your post is an accurate description of American politics since at least Watergate times. To me the mystery is why Pubbies don't figure it out and naively keep kicking Lucy's football, expecting a different outcome "this time." The only explanation that makes any sense to me is that they truly don't comprehend the depth of Democrat corruption, cynicism, America-hatred and ruthlessness.


35 posted on 10/15/2005 8:06:44 AM PDT by Bernard Marx (Don't make the mistake of interpreting my Civility as Servility)
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To: Pokey78

The criminality of dissenting opinion is a central tenet of leftist strategy and rhetoric. These specific cases are merely the public tip of a very large iceberg.

Out here in the trenches, even the dimmest liberal conformist sheep know that the first reaction to criticism, dissent, or opposition should be to represent such opposition as a criminal attack on liberal rights. Last week, I spoke with a high school English teacher who was almost comically obtuse about this.
She literally could not conceive of the idea that criticizing, say, the Dixie Chicks was not a criminal attack on their rights. She had no conception of the irony of pretending that total stone silence from those with certain opinions was the only way to protect "free expression."
Two generations of Americans have now been indoctrinated to believe implicitly in these imaginary rights for liberals and leftists: the right to the forum of their choice, the right to an audience, the right to financial support, and the right to be taken seriously.


36 posted on 10/15/2005 8:17:23 AM PDT by atomic conspiracy (Islamo-terrorists: Strike force of the MSM)
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To: atomic conspiracy
I like your tag line. I also agree with what you said.

I have come to believe there is a vast left wing conspiracy in this country. I am not kidding BTW.

I have always loved conspiracy theories, they are so darned interesting but I didn't really believe in them. In the last few years I have come to to totally believe in them. The only problem I have is many who think the same thing really are nuts.

How would I join in with a bunch that I know to be mostly if not all, at least a little strange?

Maybe 20 years ago, I noticed these things seemed to be staged and pushed by real forces. I am not even saying they are all wrong.

First of all came the anarchists and atheists who were also communists. Next came the civil rights movement. Then the sexual revolution, attack on the family (along with feminism) and open immigration.

I can remember back around 1988 when I was in grad school mentioning to a friend that the next big push was going to be homosexual rights. I also said I thought they had finally overstepped. Boy was I wrong.

A few days ago on the History Channel they had a program on secret societies. Among them was "skull and bones" and the various groups such as the CFR, Trilateral Commisssion and the Bilderbergers.

Then it hit me. These groups are just what the right wing nuts called them. They really are conspiracies to take over the world.

In fact they are really conspiracies right on the face of it, hiding in plain sight. The only thing which could be argued is what they are doing.

37 posted on 10/15/2005 8:47:14 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: Pokey78
I think lil Bill has realized that he has gone too far too fast in trashing Harriet Miers. Less than 15% of self identified Republicans agree with him that she should be defeated. More than half of Republicans, and a plurality of all surveyed, think she should be confirmed. By a wide margin a majority thinks that she is being prejudged without evidence by those, like Kristol, who are attacking her. (Source Fox News/Opinion Dynamics Poll, 10/13/05 - note: this is the PDF file with full results)

This is a nice, safe, obvious topic and he's using it to try to suck up to the vast majority of conservatives and say "see, I really am one of you and not a stuck up inside the beltway self appointed god king pundit!"

Even a blind sow finds an acorn every once in awhile. But it's still a pig.
38 posted on 10/15/2005 8:53:18 AM PDT by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: Pokey78

I haven't had much use for Kristol in recent years, although he was a hero in the old days. But he's right on target here.

What can we do about it? How about getting some backbones and fighting back? You can't blame the Democrats for using dirty tactics if they always work.

For one thing, why on earth have the Republicans kept that silly rule that the leader of the house has to step down if he is indicted? That's nothing but an invitation to indict, and as we have seen here it certainly doesn't contribute to what must have been the purpose of this stupid rule, that Republicans are cleaner than Democrats. Just the opposite. It give the media a free opportunity to say that Republicans are dirtier than Democrats. Get rid of that rule!

Also, why do we always agree to hold hearing and appoint investigative commissions, while the Democrats just dig in their heels and refuse? Under the rules Republicans seem to agree to, an indicted Republican is in a weaker position than a convicted Democrat.

Even Kristol, complaining about this, says that politics are more polarized than ever. Sure, but not equally. The Democrats have pulled out all the stops, while the Republicans just sit their with weak grins on their faces. How about fighting back?


39 posted on 10/15/2005 9:01:41 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: cgbg
An excellent synopsis.

"I think you also should point out ...


That is what I love about FR. When one omits, another picks him/ her up.

Thanks



40 posted on 10/15/2005 9:02:43 AM PDT by G.Mason ("Necessity is the mother of taking chances" ... Mark Twain)
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To: Pokey78

NEOCON ALERT!


41 posted on 10/15/2005 9:23:14 AM PDT by jd777
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To: fizziwig

Kerry go 60 million votes. Hillary needs to sway very few others to win.


42 posted on 10/15/2005 9:26:10 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: yarddog
I think it's less a concious conspiracy than a widespread recognition of mutual interest, a sub-culture or, more accurately, a whole complex of related subcultures. If you say "conspiracy" people immediately envision a concious, centrally-organized and orchestrated effort; and they think you're nuts.

Unfortunately, even this kind of conspiracy exists on a small scale; but, more importantly, there is such a thing as a tacit conspiracy. This is de-centralized and often sub-concious, existing largely within the specific values and affinity networks of certain subcultures.

The institutional media culture, the "MSM," is the glue that holds it all together. The noted leftist Thomas Frank gave away the store a few years ago with his remarkable cultural history, The Conquest of Cool.

This documents exactly how, when, and why the media culture developed its slavish affinity for perceived radicalism. Media apologists will ask why the leaders of the institutional media, the most competitive and capitalistic industry in the world, would sit around plotting to destroy capitalism. The answer, as Frank reveals, is that they wouldn't but they might as well be, since it suits their short term goals to do so.

The bottom line: To the media cult, the world is a movie and the terrorists have the James Dean role. Back in the '80s, you probably recognized that gay rights would be a big issue because the media were giving some hints in that direction. The youth counter-culture had faded and they were looking for a new high-profile movement to cast in the role of rebel. Today, Islam has the starring role, with a 40 year accumulation of media sponsored co-stars in supporting roles.

43 posted on 10/15/2005 9:56:33 AM PDT by atomic conspiracy (Islamo-terrorists: Strike force of the MSM)
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To: dinoparty

Bill Kristol in his career has difused more conservative accuity than just about any political figure I know of. All this, from the vantage point of being the darling 'conservative' in the eyes of the elite media.

Whenever we needed a point man out there with clear vision to make a point, Kristol was there to short circuit the message.

Kristol, Hatch, Lott, McCain...

With friends like these...


44 posted on 10/15/2005 10:26:15 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: atomic conspiracy
You could be right, that would agree with what a friend of mine said a few years ago. He was a fellow grad student and a radical leftist. We had one thing in common, we both liked guns and shooting.

I guess we were an odd pair but we became friends and in fact established an informal shooting club among grad students.

His Father was a well liked professor at the college where I got my undergraduate degree and a couple of other students told me his brother was a genuine anarchist.

One day we were discussing the possibility of leftwing conspiracies and he shocked me by agreeing. He then said they are basically "unorganized conspiracies", which sounds like a contradiction but I knew what he meant.

Me, I am beginning to think there really may be a real group sort of like a real "stonecutters" organization.

45 posted on 10/15/2005 11:10:07 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: rbg81

Hildebeast won't be able to win one red state, the unions are inceasingly not in the RATS pocket anymore, and minorities are increasingly catching on to the fact that the RATS have given them nothing but promises on the liberal plantation. Hillary won't be moving into the White House again in this lifetime.


46 posted on 10/15/2005 11:33:16 AM PDT by Mogollon
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To: All

We already sit through Diversity and Sexual Harassment training and AIDS/GLBT trainings. The commies are here and the conservatives do a lousy job of fighting them. In fact, some of the worst liberal nonsense comes out of our supposedly conservative administration.

Kiss the rings of your oppressors and they will smash you like an ant. That's what our "conservative" friends are learning. If we as a movement can't set basic boundaries against the left, which means clearly identifying who our enemy is, we will continue to lose the battle and be at the mercy of Democrat special interests and RINO'S.


47 posted on 10/15/2005 11:43:29 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: fizziwig

"As in the case with her hubby, the hildebeast can only become prez if a third party draws off all the pubbie whiners as perot did. This may very well happen."

wrong text.

Whiners = conservatives.


48 posted on 10/15/2005 12:39:26 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: yarddog
"...Conservativss are held to the absolute letter of the law, even when trying their best to avoid violating any law, they sometimes fail. Now I don't think Delay has even done that..."

Isn't it true that when a Republican is indicted even on trumped up charges, they must step down from a leadership position?
I don't believe the Democrats have any such standards. For that matter, they seem to have no standards at all.
49 posted on 10/15/2005 1:40:13 PM PDT by thepizzalady (The Truth will set you free.)
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