Posted on 10/15/2005 3:15:52 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Yes, I know. I believe he's stated many times that he'd appoint constructionists to the bench and that he admired Scalia and Thomas. The question was on a direct quote from Bush. It's been repeated many times that Bush actually said he'd "...appoint justices in the mold of Scalia and Thomas." But I have not been successful in finding where he actually stated those exact words... "in the mold of Scalia" etc. If someone knows where he said these words, I'd sure like to see it.
I heard it during the 2004 rally.
You're not nuts. I too am completely convinced he was saying this as far back as 1999.
Give me the city and the year.
Yeah, well, if that was GWB's intention with this matter, to let a false inflated impression of SCOTUS nominees persist, he sure has misunderstimated the political "benefit" of that. He's got a divided party on his hands. Not the sort of thing that a leader should strive for. And I have the impression he has no intention of repairing the split.
Oh really? Think about what a nonsensical little 'temper rant' that is. You're willing to help destroy this country, doing incalculable harm, because Bush nominated someone like Miers. If thats the case, you are my sworn enemy.
Pontiac, MI.
I think the phrase will predate the Bush Gore debates. I haven't found a repository of stump speech transcripts or similar.
MR. TIM RUSSERT: Which Supreme Court justice do you really respect?
GOV. BUSH: Well, that's a--Anthony Scalia is one.
Roberts was believable. He wasn't a walking conflict of interest.
Did hearings reveal the truth about Souter, Kennedy, or O'Connor?
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Pls...nobody say "Bush's Fault!!"
Russert went on to ask if Bush would appoint justices like Scalia.....do you have the entire transcript?
A lot of the people who oppose Miers opposed -- and still are highly skeptical of -- Roberts. They're just too smart to remind you of that.
The Constitution: It ain't long. It ain't complicated. It ain't hard to understand.
The ramifications of a party split are somewhat serious. The party leadaers better get their act together, because, as you might gauge from the contents of FR lately, this issue is not going to burn itself out.
Whether Bush used the exact wording, that he would nominate jurists in the mold of Scalia and Thomas, the inference of all his remarks on the subject matter were crystal clear. They remain so today. It's the current set of circumstances and the political environment that has changed.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/10/20041027-15.html
I'm not going to call you a liar, but your memory doesn't seem quite right. Here is what he said about judges...
"The fifth clear choice in this election is on the values that are so crucial to keeping America's families strong. I stand for the appointment of federal judges who know the difference between personal opinion and the strict interpretation of the law. (Applause.) I stand for marriage and family, which are the foundations of our society. (Applause.)"
No mention of Thomas or Scalia.
I'm on the hunt for hard evidence that he (or even the campaign) did say he would appoint justices like Scalia or Thomas on the stump or in a primary debate. I have a clear memory of him using those words.
This is ALL about starting to hold these guys to their promises.
If they choose not to do that, and USE US for nothing other than a few more votes, we have EVERY right to withhold our support.
The Republican Party had better figure out who put it in power in 2004. It was, by and large, the Conservative Block.
They can spit in our face on SCOTUS (which I believe they are doing with HM), and we can fairly respond by not being there for them next time.
And before you think that the amount of people TRULY tweaked off about this is some small fragment, I suggest you go do some of the research I have over the past two weeks.
Some very smart people (including a former Senator from some Western State - Colorado?) firmly predice and fully EXPECT that the base is SO TWEAKED OFF about Miers that control of Congress will EASILY go to the Dems in '06. And if that happens, then so be it.
I've worked, sweated and fought for 25+ years to put (R) candidates into the WH & Congress - for THIS *ONE* reason alone. (Like many others, I'm tired of Judges who make up law where it doesn't exist - particularly when it has the effect of further sending the country to hell in a handbasket). It is time that we fix that. From ALL available evidence, Miers will not accomplish this goal.
We've been used. It is high time for us to send a message the next time around - REGARDLESS of the consequences to (R).
Maybe next time, they'll "get it".
An early use of the phrase without attribution to bush is found here
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:yE6MqBd27WUJ:www.nationalreview.com/daily/nr120799.html+%2B%22in+the+mold+of+Scalia%22+%2B1999&hl=en
An article from PAW in 2000 that quotes Bush as constructionist but omits quote on "in the mold".
Excellent. Thank you.
Is there also info on what the PRes. actually said regarding Justices?
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