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White Supremacists Riot in Toledo, Ohio (ABC & AP caught red-handed in a lie)
ABC NEWS ^ | October 16,2005 | JOHN SEEWER

Posted on 10/16/2005 6:19:00 AM PDT by Jonah Johansen

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To: SE Mom

Let's email the lying media!

support@abcnews.go.com


101 posted on 10/16/2005 7:35:41 AM PDT by TaxRelief ("Conservatives are cracking down!" -- Rush Limbaugh, October 13, 2005)
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To: TheForceOfOne
The title should read "Thugs, Gang members, and White Supremacists battle for control of our streets"

The whites left as soon as things started getting out of hand. The thugs and gang members were battling the police

102 posted on 10/16/2005 7:37:50 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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To: paudio
Actually, the ACLU defended the "right" of neo-Nazis to march through a neighborhood that had many Holocaust survivors. That was about 20 years ago. So the "right" of young thugs (who are everything to the ACLU) to torment elderly Jews (who are nothing to the ACLU) is well-established. This latest incident pits white Nazi thugs against mostly black gangs. Since gangs make inner-city life a hellhole for innocent blacks while the stupid neo-Nazi freaks are more of an annoyance (the way dog crap on a sidewalk is an annoyance), the ACLU will side with the more lethal gangs. If, on the other hand, the white supremacists have ties with actual Islamofascist terrorist organizations, then that will put them over the top and the ACLU will side with the white supremacists. Ask yourself who is more dangerous to America or who is more dangerous to innocent people, and you will find who the ACLU will side with.

Everyone knows that the gangs were looking for an excuse to riot and loot. If the mayor had declared "Butterfly Day" or "Be Kind to Kittens Day" someone would have seen that as an excuse to riot and loot. If the gangs had confined themselves to attacking the neo-Nazis, I would have for once favored what the gangs were doing. Instead, they showed themselves to be stupid, opportunistic thugs, just like the skinheads, etc.

103 posted on 10/16/2005 7:39:05 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: Bear_Slayer

I think the headline writer needs to put down the crack pipe!


104 posted on 10/16/2005 7:39:52 AM PDT by newzjunkey (CA: Stop union theft for political agendas with YES on Prop 75! Prolife? YES on Prop 73!)
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To: texianyankee
Among press-types I've actually heard such things as being considered "racist" even if it accurately describes what took place. You simply cannot say blacks are rioting because it's "racially charged" as in the Watts or Rodney King riots in L.A. They're hyper-sensitive about certain language and phrases due to being neutered by activists.
105 posted on 10/16/2005 7:44:25 AM PDT by newzjunkey (CA: Stop union theft for political agendas with YES on Prop 75! Prolife? YES on Prop 73!)
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To: Skooz
There WERE a few white anarchists involved in the riots, but the Nazis (white-supremacists, all 15 of them) were sent home:
Violence in North Toledo after Nazi march canceled; mayor declares curfew

TOLEDO--Mayor Jack Ford declared a state of emergency this afternoon following a violent uprising in North Toledo that erupted following an aborted march by a group of Nazis.

He issued a citywide curfew starting at 8 p.m. tonight, tomorrow, and possibly Monday.

Mr. Ford said those protesting were mainly male gang members in their 20s. He said the protests were not triggered by race relations but by gang members with grievances.

"We went to talk to them. Most of them were gang members in full colors," the mayor said. "Their anger was based on some long-standing things but also that we had allowed the [Nazi] walk to occur in the first place."

North Toledo descended into chaos for several hours this afternoon after angry crowds who turned out to protest a planned march by a small group of National Socialist Movement calling themselves "America’s Nazi Party" erupted into violence.

A mob of at least 500 people threw bricks and rocks at police and vehicles, looted a bar at Central and Mulberry and started it on fire, and overturned a car at a North Toledo gas station and burned it. There were reports of minor injuries to police and numerous arrests.

The violence started around noon as police were getting ready to escort about 15 Nazis on a march that was supposed to start at Wilson Park and continue on Mulberry Street and Bronson and Dexter Avenues, ending up back at the park. (get full story at the Toledo Blade)


106 posted on 10/16/2005 7:45:29 AM PDT by TaxRelief ("Conservatives are cracking down!" -- Rush Limbaugh, October 13, 2005)
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To: RedRover

Classic.

He must never have heard of soccer (football) riots. Or maybe he was just lying.


107 posted on 10/16/2005 7:47:12 AM PDT by Mr. Rational (God gave me a brain and expects me to use it)
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To: Phsstpok

Read the sub-headline:

"Hundreds of white supremacists riot. "


108 posted on 10/16/2005 7:49:46 AM PDT by TaxRelief ("Conservatives are cracking down!" -- Rush Limbaugh, October 13, 2005)
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To: TaxRelief
TOLEDO--Mayor Jack Ford declared a state of emergency this afternoon following a violent uprising in North Toledo that erupted following an aborted march by a group of Nazis.

Uprising. That's the word they used in Hollywood to describe the Rodney King riots.

109 posted on 10/16/2005 7:49:50 AM PDT by TheMole
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To: All

Mayor is on now doing news conf


110 posted on 10/16/2005 7:59:04 AM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: RedRover

"Brian Jagodzinski, chief news photographer for CNN affiliate WTVG is quoted as saying: "The crowd was very ... extremely agitated at the police ... for doing this [making arrests in] the community when they should be doing this to the Nazis," Jagodzinski said."

CNNazi think.


111 posted on 10/16/2005 8:00:58 AM PDT by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch. NOT to be schiavoed, greered, or felosed as a patient)
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To: ▀udda▀udd
Blame Bush!

Exactly...I'm sure the ABCNews .com editor must be on vacation and a temp is performing his duties....otherwise they would blame this Ohio riot on Bush's response to Katrina.

112 posted on 10/16/2005 8:01:35 AM PDT by HennepinPrisoner
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To: Piquaboy

either that or they were a great halloween costumes


113 posted on 10/16/2005 8:05:39 AM PDT by halfright (3 Days post Hanoi (Jihadi) Jane... 2200hrs meeting to urinate on her grave...Semper Fi !)
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To: Lloyd227
excellent.. I emailed them as well, though much less professionally.... I was more concerned with getting the word out to some of my favorite bloggers (Malkin, LGF, thepoliticalteen.net). I suggest everyone do the same so it doesn't go unnoticed, as they don't seem to be on it yet.

notify the big bloggers

notify the big bloggers

notify the big bloggers

I want to see this story, at least on Fox News tomorrow afternoon/evening. Let's get it donw.
114 posted on 10/16/2005 8:06:26 AM PDT by rabair (Religion of Peace Strikes Again.... Sprinkling Peace Shrapnel All Over the World!")
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To: Jonah Johansen
I didn't know there were black white supremacists.
115 posted on 10/16/2005 8:07:42 AM PDT by SaveTheChief ("I can't wait until I'm old enough to feel ways about stuff." - Phillip J. Fry)
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To: Jonah Johansen
Calypso Louie can have his "million" racist black men march, and spew all the anti-white/jew/Bush venom he wants, but a few dozen racist white boys don't get their turn at free speech.

I am not suprised.

116 posted on 10/16/2005 8:10:36 AM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: TaxRelief
gang members in full colors

I saw it "in living color" on FoxNews. :-)
117 posted on 10/16/2005 8:10:51 AM PDT by cgbg (Do you believe your lying eyes?)
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To: Jonah Johansen

I just watched a press conference from toledo police officials. the coverup continues...


118 posted on 10/16/2005 8:12:27 AM PDT by takenoprisoner (Beware the troll patrol...they censure and ban conservatives alike just for the thrill of it)
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To: RedRover
........... crowd setting fire to a building........

I'm sure it was just a controlled burn.

Probably not unlike we do out here on the prairie...when we burn pastures.

119 posted on 10/16/2005 8:13:18 AM PDT by Osage Orange (I'm caring less, more and more....................)
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To: Jonah Johansen

Yeah, I just went to the ABC site and it makes no sense - - the first paragraph of the story is completely at odds with the headline as well as the sub-headline. I hope it's merely incompetence.


120 posted on 10/16/2005 8:14:05 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Jonah Johansen

They spewed the same lie on ABC Radio yesterday.


121 posted on 10/16/2005 8:14:44 AM PDT by Reactionary
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To: Jonah Johansen

Do you have a link to anything that proves AP is behind the headline? This looks like ABC is the sole culprit.


122 posted on 10/16/2005 8:17:01 AM PDT by TaxRelief ("Conservatives are cracking down!" -- Rush Limbaugh, October 13, 2005)
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To: GOP_Proud

"Those are the darkest skinned "white" supremicists I've ever seen."

Must be the Nazi version of the big tent.


123 posted on 10/16/2005 8:17:10 AM PDT by fallujah-nuker (Open Borders: The RINOcracy waging class warfare against American wage earners)
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To: FreedomPoster

between the Toledo riots and the million more march I would
have to say it was a dark day in America.


124 posted on 10/16/2005 8:18:03 AM PDT by maxsand
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To: Huber

That is STILL what ABC News has on their site, as of NOW (see post time below).
Think they'll correct it anytime soon?


125 posted on 10/16/2005 8:19:08 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

These people must have a death wish. Are they insane?
126 posted on 10/16/2005 8:19:13 AM PDT by TaxRelief ("Conservatives are cracking down!" -- Rush Limbaugh, October 13, 2005)
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To: TaxRelief
Yep. That is a flat out bald faced lie. But if what was challenged was the headline itself they would try to pull a Clinton and say that the headline was 'accurate' as I said.

I'm 100% not defending them. I'm pointing out that they would try to weasel out of it. That was the point of citing Clinton.

If a conservative critic makes the mistake of making the wrong argument and getting shot down, even by tortuous logic like "depends on what the meaning of 'is' is" then we're not allowed to go back and point out the other falsehoods. Any attempt to do what you have done, to actually point out the gross and inarguable inaccuracies in the article, will be shut down because they've already been "shown to be wrong" on the original complaint over the title. It's not right, but it is the MO of the MSM.

We have to make a solid and complete case that can't be dismissed with facile game playing.
127 posted on 10/16/2005 8:19:28 AM PDT by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: Drew68
I'm sure there were cries in the newsroom of, "Do we haaaaave to?"

LOL! I was drinking water when I read that..you owe me a new keyboard!

128 posted on 10/16/2005 8:19:32 AM PDT by HennepinPrisoner
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To: PeteB570

Morning PeteB570,
The communistic MSM thinks all people are stupid enough to believe their lies.

Oh wait, it was Bush's fault for the slow response in spoon feeding the public assistance welfare crime cartel in NOLA.

Just another day in paradise,
NSNR-CSAOTL


129 posted on 10/16/2005 8:20:02 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: SE Mom

What did he say?


130 posted on 10/16/2005 8:20:06 AM PDT by TaxRelief ("Conservatives are cracking down!" -- Rush Limbaugh, October 13, 2005)
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To: TaxRelief
Are they insane?

Picky, picky, picky....

131 posted on 10/16/2005 8:20:26 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: cgbg

"I saw it "in living color" on FoxNews"

what the heck was it about that building? and I want one of those doors installed in my home.


132 posted on 10/16/2005 8:20:37 AM PDT by takenoprisoner (Beware the troll patrol...they censure and ban conservatives alike just for the thrill of it)
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To: Jonah Johansen

Ya know, the Nazi's got EXACTLY what they wanted. TV picture of Blacks breaking the law and rioting. What more could they have asked for? The best thing you can do when 25 Nazis march is ignore them.


133 posted on 10/16/2005 8:20:56 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Rodney King
Ya know, the Nazi's got EXACTLY what they wanted. TV picture of Blacks breaking the law and rioting. What more could they have asked for? The best thing you can do when 25 Nazis march is ignore them.

Exactly....I am sure they gathered together after leaving town, broke open the champagne, and watched the live pictures on television with glee.

134 posted on 10/16/2005 8:24:26 AM PDT by HennepinPrisoner
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To: TaxRelief
Are they insane?

They are skinheads, do you really have to ask?

135 posted on 10/16/2005 8:25:05 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: paudio

I don't know but that would be a good opportunity for the nazi bastards to sue for libel and cause even more mayhem. The biggest thing is that now they've seen how easy it is to light up a riot, so I would expect to see them do this again in other well selected racial tinderboxes.


136 posted on 10/16/2005 8:26:17 AM PDT by ichabod1 (No Retreat! Trap The Rats or Face The Base -- Your Choice, Congress)
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN

As they said about the palesites' arson in Gaza, "buildings were burning."


137 posted on 10/16/2005 8:27:30 AM PDT by ichabod1 (No Retreat! Trap The Rats or Face The Base -- Your Choice, Congress)
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To: Phsstpok

We know the media lies. We know they tell most of their lies in the headlines, rather than the stories.

If the Nazis want to take it a step further and sue for libel, that's their problem.

ABC should just watch FOX news before broadcasting anything.


138 posted on 10/16/2005 8:27:32 AM PDT by TaxRelief ("Conservatives are cracking down!" -- Rush Limbaugh, October 13, 2005)
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To: TheMole
Uprising. That's the word they used in Hollywood to describe the Rodney King riots.

And the "intifada". The Left has a limited vocabulary.

139 posted on 10/16/2005 8:27:59 AM PDT by Freedom_Fighter_2001 (When money is no object - it's your money they're talking about)
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To: TheForceOfOne
The title of the article is leading and inacurate.

The title of the article is a LIE.

140 posted on 10/16/2005 8:28:19 AM PDT by ichabod1 (No Retreat! Trap The Rats or Face The Base -- Your Choice, Congress)
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To: Huber

Gosh, in the picture we have the profile of a white guy in the foreground. What do you want to bet whitey was put in the picture by the liars at ABC?


141 posted on 10/16/2005 8:29:59 AM PDT by Reactionary
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To: Lancey Howard

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=1220284

they fixed it


142 posted on 10/16/2005 8:30:49 AM PDT by takenoprisoner (Beware the troll patrol...they censure and ban conservatives alike just for the thrill of it)
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To: Skooz

Look at the profile of the white guy in the foreground. A rather interesting picture, isn't it?


143 posted on 10/16/2005 8:31:45 AM PDT by Reactionary
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To: pageonetoo
Thank God not everyone black acts like that!

OF COURSE not everyone black acts like that. Seventy five percent of black people are not "pooer" and act just like every body else. We don't oppose black people here. We just oppose the race baiting poverty pimps like the Jacksons, the Sharptons, and the Farrakhans who lie to the rest of the black people and tell them it's ok to do things like this and perpetuate the cycle that keeps them down. Them and the liberals who want them on the demorat plantation to harvest votes from them.

144 posted on 10/16/2005 8:31:53 AM PDT by ichabod1 (No Retreat! Trap The Rats or Face The Base -- Your Choice, Congress)
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To: takenoprisoner

It's like watching Pravda in action.


145 posted on 10/16/2005 8:32:32 AM PDT by Reactionary
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To: Skooz
WHAT???????? Didn't the Jews know they were supposed to riot, loot and destroy property to express thier "outrage?"

Sorry about having to comment on everything, but there were some confrontations. There was a particularly memorable moment when a certain talk show host by the name of Geraldo Rivera slowly and deliberately took off his glasses, handed them to someone, and ripped into some neo-nazi in uniform, where they scuffled and tussled for a while on the camera. You're probably surprised to think that OUR GERALDO would do something like that.

146 posted on 10/16/2005 8:34:36 AM PDT by ichabod1 (No Retreat! Trap The Rats or Face The Base -- Your Choice, Congress)
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To: paudio

They have in the past.


147 posted on 10/16/2005 8:35:07 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Skooz

There are whites in among the counter-protestors.
148 posted on 10/16/2005 8:35:27 AM PDT by TaxRelief ("Conservatives are cracking down!" -- Rush Limbaugh, October 13, 2005)
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To: TaxRelief

Blah-blah..we were prepared for some, though not all of what happened..blah-blah..we made 100 plus arrests..blah-blah...we learned a lot, we will work together as a community..blah...


149 posted on 10/16/2005 8:36:33 AM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: ichabod1
"I don't know but that would be a good opportunity for the nazi bastards to sue for libel and cause even more mayhem. The biggest thing is that now they've seen how easy it is to light up a riot..."

True dat.

I worry about what if these racists decide to start protesting our open borders. The lefty MSM would have a field day with that. I'm sure some Dem is already whispering it in thier ear.

150 posted on 10/16/2005 8:38:01 AM PDT by Jonx6
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