Posted on 10/18/2005 10:09:45 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim
Can't be true - the politicians said that if were approved draconian gun control laws, we will all be safer...
Can't be true - the politicians said that if we approved draconian gun control laws, we will all be safer...
Most of the victims of violent crime are aboriginals, Third "World immigrants, gang members, homeless people or transients. Their deaths often pass without much notice.
But Mr. Haiart was the son of a well-known Winnipeg surgeon and recent graduate of the up-market St. John's-Ravenscourt School. His death has sent a shiver of fear through Winnipeg's mostly white middle class.
Ms. Van Dreser's mother, Susan, a Unitarian minister, said: "Society becomes sick when there's constant violence. We don't want to live in fear and anger all the time."
As the old adage goes, a conservative is a liberal who's just been mugged..
Multi- culturalism, Isn't it wonderful?
Detroit has more than that in a month....
Mike
For proper comparisons, you need to consider population.
Winnipeg has about 670,000 people.
So! Detroit has less than 900,000...not that much difference!
Mike
But even still, the per capita rate in Winnipeg probably doesn't approach US cities.
so I'm sure the person that fired the shot obtained his/her weapon legally and according to all Canadian laws since the bad guys obviously don't have them (since they're outlawed and stuff)...
The real prisoners in Canada are the general public. They are slaves to pay taxes, just so they can go back to their cells (homes)lock themselves in and live in fear. But like typical liberals, they can't figure out that police do not "protect" them, they show up after the fact to clean up the mess.
My quick math has Winnipeg's murder rate at just under 1/2 NYC's. Last year we had 572 murders here, in a city of 8,000,000 souls.
Defund the gangs by making drugs legal. Let the idiots who want to take them kill themselves.
The year isn't over yet. Murders in Canada are generaly on par with murders in the USA despite gun laws. Some American cities have above average murder rates, so they shouldn't be used for direct comparisons.
Winnipeg used to be a fairly peacefull place when it was basically full of Ukrainian/Polish/ Jewish immigrants. (still is the largest minority though at around 15%) That demographic has changed with the influx of ME, African and Asian immigrants.
St Johns, "the north end" where Burton Cummings (the Guess Who singer) grew up, is now a 3rd world hell hole. Grand Forks is much nicer, and safer. Plus the streets in Winnipeg suck. It's hard to drive through that place without damaging your front end. It's like the place was bombed there are so many pot holes.
Drugs are practically legal in Canada. What you see happening is these druggies killing each other over the crumbs of the trade. If you think legalizing drugs will make the world a better place, you're dead wrong. All you end up with is a useless, dependant population. Welfare, Winnipeg's largest employer. At least in the north end and "core area" it is.
ok, this article has a couple of things that seem like common sense to me. the biggest being harsher punishment. there are two things that will stop a person from commiting a crime: morals and fear of punishment. and fear of punishment trumps morals. how many crimes do you commit everyday, even if its a stupid law to begin with? speeding? not coming to a complete stop? not using a blinker? jay walking? stealing a pen? these are all little crimes that you are much more likely to not commit because you're afraid to get caught. and often we still do them because we know that even if caught, it's not that big of a punishment. which is exactly the problem with the criminal judicial system, just about anywhere. a guy beat someone to death with a bat and only got 2 years? that's a fitting punishment for petty theft maybe, but not such a brutal murder.
harsh punishments would be more of a deterrant to crime than anything else. if you know that you are likely to be put to death for murder, you're gonna really stop and think before you do it.
Ah, for the old days when crime was limited to five drunken indians from Kenosha stuffing a cab trunk with the aluminum siding from their reservation homes, selling the scrap in St. Boniface, getting drunker and committing suicide by jumping in front of your car on North Main Street.
17 and shacking up? From a middle class family but working as a roofer? I wonder why he would be strolling through a neighborhood being fought over by rival drug gangs.
His concubine's mother needs to work on her cross cultural outreach ministry instead of her gay/lesbian outreach. Looks like a good liberal from Vermont, who may have helped the Sandanistas.
Here's more on her mother:
"Reverend Susan Van Dreser has been the minister of the First Unitarian Universalist Church of Winnipeg since 1989. She grew up in Vermont, earned her BA in Creative Writing and English from Beloit College in Wisconsin, and her M. Div. from Harvard University School of Divinity.
After spending two years in Nicaragua, first doing peace work and then living on a mountain farm, Susan returned to the U.S. to serve three churches in northern Pennsylvania before coming to Winnipeg.
Since coming to Winnipeg Susan has served our association as a Good Officer’s Minister and has been president of the Unitarian Universalist Ministers of Canada. She currently chairs the Regional Sub-Committee on Candidacy of Canada (RSCC), a subcommittee of the Ministerial Fellowship Committee that overseas the formation of ministers. In Winnipeg she has been active in the Interfaith Roundtable and in support of gay, lesbian, bi-sexual, transgendered, and two-spirited rights.
In our church, Rev. Susan Van Dreser leads worship services, provides private counsel, teaches adult classes, leads new comer groups, provides rites of passages such as child dedications, marriages and memorial services. She also lectures in the community and leads workshops when requested.
Susan is the mother of two young-adult daughters. She is a voracious reader who loves to preach and to counsel, and in her spare time she gardens and binds books.
She may be reached through the church office at...."
http://www.uuwinnipeg.mb.ca/minister.shtml
Lack of firearms ownership will do that to you.
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