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Slouching Towards Miers [Robert Bork]
Wall Street Journal ^ | 10-19-2005 | Robert Bork

Posted on 10/18/2005 9:43:27 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite

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To: upchuck

Indeed. I'm in the same camp as you. The GOP gave us Bush against Kerry......some choice. Conservatives were burnt by the first Bush and you'd think we would learn that apples usually don't fall far from their tree's. The GOP is and has been the Gestation of "Progressiveness" instead of the "Grand Old Party" for quite awhile. Reagan being the notable exception.


181 posted on 10/19/2005 12:04:34 PM PDT by Sweetjustusnow (The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them away. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Revolting cat!

lol


182 posted on 10/19/2005 12:06:43 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( Mike Pence for President!!! http://acuf.org/issues/issue34/050415pol.asp)
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To: beckett
"Surely the threshold skill required of a Supreme Court justice is the ability to write clearly and argue incisively."

I guess those were the skills that so many Justices have used to convince us that the Constitution doesn't really mean what we think it says or that "shall not" actually means "except when".

I knew that little bugger was in there somewhere that the Supreme Court Justices wouldn't let Congress just take my paycheck and give part of it to the 65 year old millionaire next door or buy his wife's mammograms.

183 posted on 10/19/2005 12:15:18 PM PDT by Reaganghost (Democrats are living proof that you can fool some of the people all of the time.)
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To: LexBaird
I'd like to add to your statement and say that another deep concern that I have is the fact that there are so many Constitutional Scholars out there who are essentially being told that their pursuits in excellence aren't worth considering them for a Supreme Court seat. It is UNJUST. In this society we should recognize excellence and reward it. Miers simply is not the caliber of intellectual, that I believe the US people should 'settle' for.
184 posted on 10/19/2005 12:15:58 PM PDT by Sweetjustusnow (The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them away. Ronald Reagan)
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To: dk/coro

Bork happens to own the mind that was once considered one of the most brilliant legal minds of the day. The WSJ thought enough of his opinion to publish it. Not a subscriber, I have not had the opportunity to read it, but I would be willing to bet the President read it. And I would be willing to bet the President had some respect for it, even if he profoundly disagreed with it. A lot of the carping Freepers on this thread have stated their opinions and snide remarks, but they seem to begrudge the Judge for stating his.


185 posted on 10/19/2005 12:37:06 PM PDT by Reaganghost (Democrats are living proof that you can fool some of the people all of the time.)
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To: Texas Federalist
Managing partner is an administrative job.

Sure it is. But it's not the job itself that makes you a very good lawyer. It's that nobody gets there who isn't. You have to be both a very good lawyer and have demonstrated administrative skills. Otherwise, your partners won't elect you to that position.

186 posted on 10/19/2005 1:00:57 PM PDT by XJarhead
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To: XJarhead
It's that nobody gets there who isn't. You have to be both a very good lawyer and have demonstrated administrative skills. Otherwise, your partners won't elect you to that position.

That's not correct. I'll give you that it is generally the case that managing partners of are of superior legal ability to most of their fellow partners, however, some subpar lawyers are chosen because of their superior administrative skills, notoriety in the community, political connections, or willingness to do the job.

187 posted on 10/19/2005 1:23:07 PM PDT by Texas Federalist (qualified to serve on the United States Supreme Court)
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To: KMAJ2
In your well-thought out post, I think you proved my earlier point. We can all disagree about whether Ms. Miers is qualified for the Supreme Court (and I would agree with Ann Coulter's sarcastic comment that for the Supreme Court, we want elitist academics put there), and you pointed out several scholars who disagreed with Bork, and you're aware of several more that agree with him. Bork's comments in and of itself does not mean that he is a rank amateur when it comes to constitutional matters that Chief Justice Roberts could run rings around. It just means that people disagree.

I would also somewhat strongly disagree with you that Bork is borking Miers. Chief Justice Marshall was a very accomplished man before he was appointed to the bench, more so than even Chief Justice Roberts. Bork's comments have been strictly limited to the lack of any evidence of originialist views on the Constitution. You cannot read Bork's article and think that he has in any way argued against her like what happened to him, where he was slandered and denounced personally as well as philosophically. Keep in mind, also, that at the time of Bork's nomination, there were approximately 100 opinions of his that had been appealed to the Supreme Court, and (if memory serves) not one of those had been overturned.

You can disagree with Bork's opinion, but not his own qualifications to criticize.

188 posted on 10/19/2005 2:13:40 PM PDT by GreatOne (You will bow down before me, son of Jor-el!)
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To: Frank T

[[I forgot to add: your point really isn't about hypocrisy is it? You want those of us not on your side to ignore what Bork has to say, so you use poor logic to try and railroad us off the issue. Just like a liberal would.

RINO.]]

If that is your best retort, and you choose to engage in puerile name-calling, I could refer to you as an intellectually challenged programmed drone.


189 posted on 10/19/2005 3:27:05 PM PDT by KMAJ2 (Freedom not defended is freedom relinquished, liberty not fought for is liberty lost.)
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To: Frank T

[[LOL I'd like to see what happens to the GOP when the right fringe doesn't show up the next time.

Ask Bush41 what it's like. And get a sneak preview in the '06 mid term elections.]]

More entrenched ideological ranting from the far right. Whine, whine, I am going to take my bat and ball and go home. You aren't a conservative, you are a selfish, childish, spoiled brat who would cut off his nose to spite his face.


190 posted on 10/19/2005 3:29:59 PM PDT by KMAJ2 (Freedom not defended is freedom relinquished, liberty not fought for is liberty lost.)
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To: nathanbedford

Good post, and very well written. I don't agree with most of it, but so what? If I have time, and am in the mood, I will give it the response it deserves. Thanks.


191 posted on 10/19/2005 7:33:38 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Frank T
It's not a "red herring" at all and you've misused the term.

Until now, the supposed Conservative litmus test, has been that ines if ours should be anti-abortion. Nobody ever said that the nominee had to be some Ivory Tower Constitutionalist fire-breather. As a matter of fact, it was never a Conservative's wish that our justices rule/make laws from the bench. That was what we all found so horrible about Liberal judges and SCOTUS justices.

192 posted on 10/19/2005 7:48:31 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: borkrules
So far, I've seen one footnote in one of his books cited as evidence in support of that proposition. A footnote.

Well, you can take this for what's it worth.

Several years ago on television I heard Bork speak about the second, though reluctantly, and what I heard nearly made me soil my trousers.

I could not believe I had held him up as an icon for what justices ought to be like.

193 posted on 10/19/2005 7:54:13 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Torie

Yeah, it was pretty good. Not that I agree with everything he wrote but he wrote it well. Stevens writes well also.


194 posted on 10/19/2005 8:03:38 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
LOL. I am a just a sucker for excellence perhaps. I just savor it.
195 posted on 10/19/2005 8:06:02 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Frank T

Frank, you have FR mail from me, because your post pisses me off. You really don't get it. I have taken pills for my sprained wrist and would appreciate debating you tomorrow.

He's comitted no war crimes and hence, he's not worried about any future indictments. You;re delusional.

Bush is NOT trying to get even with anyone. He's trying to put a woman on the court who he knows won;'t go left 5, 10, 20 years from, now, like Sandra O'Connor did once RWR lost his faculties.

You have parroted Ariana Coulter's line -- that Bush is sticking it to the conservatives... the definition of conservatives is an ever changing one depending on the hot button issies.

Now, it's your turn.


You think he was never "with us" --- I strongly disagree.



196 posted on 10/19/2005 10:04:38 PM PDT by onyx ((Vicksburg, MS) North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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To: Torie
Oh, how I wish that spirit were more to be encountered on these threads.

I await your response, if you are so moved, in the same spirit.


197 posted on 10/19/2005 11:00:52 PM PDT by nathanbedford (Lose your borders, lose your citizenship; lose your citizenship, lose your Bill of Rights)
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To: onyx
It's a shame you don't trust and can't think for yourself.

Try it sometime, you'll like it.

198 posted on 10/20/2005 12:56:39 AM PDT by TAdams8591 (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON!)
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To: borkrules

Given that it's in his "Slouching" book, it's more than fair game.


199 posted on 10/20/2005 4:16:51 AM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: TAdams8591
I knew two people who were on his staff and worked closely with him.

Could you give us a hint and then just semi-kill us?

Sincerely, A Youth in Asia.

200 posted on 10/20/2005 11:54:05 AM PDT by alcuin (And what became of the seat what was to come to ME?)
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