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To: ovrtaxt; Brian Allen

"Takenoprisoner, are you saying that Gorelick's 'wall' memo had nothing to do with Able Danger info being suppressed by DOD lawyers?"

I'm saying it could be red herring. I'm saying that you and Mr. Allen are not the authoity on this.

Now Mr. Allen let's talk about your ability to imagine since you have so brazenly challenged mine. Imagine (if you can) that you held info you knew could effect the lives of your fellow Americans, would you allow some memo from some congress creature (and inspite of lawyers) prevent you from getting that life or death information into the right hands? Or would you find some way around that memo (even if you erroneously believed it to be the law)in order to protect American lives? Or would you lay low (erroneously slouching behind the skirts of gorelick's law like some sort of wussie) allowing three thousand plus souls to perish because you feared that you might somehow violate the law and in the process ruin your army career?

What's your call Allen?


56 posted on 10/21/2005 10:27:23 AM PDT by takenoprisoner (illegally posting on an expired tag)
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To: takenoprisoner

What you're questioning isn't even in doubt. The way you characterize it, that's pretty much how it happened.

Did you happen to see the hearing on CSPAN about a month ago? It was beyond belief! Remember, we were not on alert before 911 the way we are now.


57 posted on 10/21/2005 1:46:26 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (You nonconformists are all the same.)
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To: takenoprisoner

<< Now [Brian] let's talk about your ability to imagine since you have so brazenly challenged mine.

Imagine (if you can) that you held info you knew could effect the lives of your fellow Americans, would you allow some memo from some congress creature (and inspite of lawyers) prevent you from getting that life or death information into the right hands? Or would you find some way around that memo (even if you erroneously believed it to be the law)in order to protect American lives? Or would you lay low (erroneously slouching behind the skirts of gorelick's law like some sort of wussie) allowing three thousand plus souls to perish because you feared that you might somehow violate the law and in the process ruin your army career?

What's your call [Brian]? >>

To such an unimaginative challenge I shall dig [The very tips of the fingers of one hand] into my bag of tricks and experience of the kind of folks to whom you allude and draw you a picture.

In the process I shall keep the necessity that you employ any imagination to the absolute minimum.

It is important, though, that I most emphatically point out to you that although I have been exposed to the kind of poor fish I suggest you cannot imagine, I am not one of them.

As to whom I am referring, imagine if you can that America is a massive talent pool. Then imagine the 25 thousand or so of to-some-slight-degree-or-other FRee enterprise American busnesses, companies, corporations and other employers, all of which get to fish, net, seine, trawl, long-line and drift-net the American talent pool.

Before the feral and other gummints get to dredge the pool's bottom for what's left -- and some tounge-chewin' babblin' idiot floatsam and jetsom to bring up the quota hire numbers -- and gets to put them all in charge of its agencies.

Then imagine (if you can) that every one of those held info he knew could effect the lives of his fellow Americans allowed some memo from some congress creature [And in spite of lawyers] to prevent him from getting that life or death information into the right hands.

OR TO ANY PLACE WHERE IT MET ALL OF THE OTHER KEY PIECES OF INFORMATION THAT COMPLETED AN OTHERWISE UNIMAGINED AND INVISIBLE-TO-ALL-BUT-A-VERY-FEW-OF-US SECURITY MOSAIC.

The imagine that none of those who held those pieces of information bothered to find any way around that memo [Some even believing it to be the law, some being too bloody stupid and/or indolent to notice - others believing that continuing to support the Clinton Crime Family pre-empted any other course of action and still others being too damned evil and/or mean-spirited to care] in order to protect American lives.

And imagine that every last one of them but one [Who is at present for his courage being stripped of his honor and Marine Corps pension] continued to lay low [Maliciously and/or erroneously slouching behind the skirts of the Gorelicker's law like the every sort of totalitarian-socialist agenda-driven wussies they are] and allowed three thousand plus souls to perish because he feared that he might somehow violate the law and in the process ruin his army career?

Get it?

Good.

Now you are imagining precisely what happened.

Blessings -- Brian


58 posted on 10/22/2005 3:19:05 AM PDT by Brian Allen (Patriotic [Immigrant] AMERICAN-American and Aviator by choice - Christian by Grace)
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