Posted on 10/22/2005 4:22:38 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
The disloyalty are the folks who thought that this candidacy was worth pursuing without putting it through a reasonable vetting in the first place.
Don't lose faith in yourself. Bush just chose Miers to as always appease the FRIGGN DEMOCRATS!
Guess he thinks he has a 3rd seat coming up and stupidly as always is just trying to compromise with the uncompromising Dems.
I think the price was the Gang of 14 would exercise the Nuclear Option if an acceptable pick was Borked. I think she was acceptable to the republican weak sisters on the Judiciary Committee because her lack of track record gave them plausible deniability with their constituants.
I hear echoes of 1991-92!
Disloyalty occurs once a decision has been made. At that point, anyone interested in future wins shuts up and faces the "enemy" as a united front. Wars are not won when the troops shoot their leaders in the back.
Sometimes, when the Dem'crats think Dubya has just made an amazing compromise, and they are giving each other the high fives, they suddenly see that Dubya has just scooped up the entire stack of chips on the table. Such it was when he won the authority to go to war in Iraq, and even though they hollered and griped later that the war was for the wrong reasons, by then Saddam was out of office, and the US was solidly anchored in the Middle East.
Some other objective is part of Dubya's plan here, and so far he has not shown his cards to anyone else. The Dem'crats are poised (again) to bet their hand, even to raise, only to discover they were, once again, outbluffed.
Yes, I know, there is a third group of players at the table, the serious conservative punditry. Dubya will take their money too.
How many times must it be repeated, never ever sit down at a game of "friendly" poker with Dubya, and bet against him?
First, this is not a war and the analogy leads to a false conclusion. It is a clash of political visions, and we have found our own leadership wanting. When our political leadership fumbles in the direction we are headed it is our right, our duty, to do what we can to put ourselves back on the right path. As Newt reminds us our Republic was founded not on a contract between ourselves and our government but on a convenant. There is a world of difference.
Second, wars are also not won when the troops blindly follow their leaders into the valley of death. The oath I took as a serving officer was to defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic.
I believe President Bush took that same oath and he has never given me a reason to doubt that he will uphold that oath. He has already heard Miers, we have not.
If you are employed by someone, and you do not agree with their decision, then you terminate your employment. You do not go behind the back of your employer and undermine him. I repeat, anyone in the Whitehouse who is speaking out of turn once that decision was made, should be TERMINATED.
President Bush will stand his ground. Ms. Miers will get a fair hearing hopefully. Then the chips will fall where they may.
Sounds like the first strains of the Fat Lady's song to me.............
So we have two unnamed sources. Sounds like the NY Slimes to me. Amazing that when "conservatives" write these kinds of articles, they are accepted as gospel, but when the WaPo or Slimes does it, we rightly question why no sources are given. For all we know, these are anti-Miers conservatives (of whom there are plenty) trying to "create" reality.
I don't think they are. I think this is wishful thinking by the "purists."
That is a distinct possibility. I am not offended by political maneuvering, but I detest outright lying.
I do too, and if Bush and his crew have been lying about Miers, there really will be hell to pay. I trust him, and so far he has not let me down. Even on things like the ed bill and presc. drug bill, he pretty much said in the campaign what he would do and we had to accept it for the greater good.
The one possibility of a "comeback" will not come from a new nominee, but from further movement in the right direction on the IMMIGRATION issue. Chertoff is making some of the right noises. I heard him on Hannity, but he's still saying a full-scale roundup of all illegals in this country would be "impossible." So they are counting on the "guest-worker" program to get some out in the open and get them on a temporary status. I don't agree, but for the first time that the OBJECTIVE stated by an admin official has been to identify the illegals and set up a process to send them back eventually, rather than just admit them permenantly.
You have that backwards.
Bush is commander in chief of the armed forces, and your assertion applies within that context.
In a larger context, Bush is a public servant. If he tries to put an incompetent crony on the Supreme Court, he is betraying the trust of his leaders, the people who voted him into the presidency.
Right now Bush's leaders are having a healthy and welcome internal debate abut whether he is bretraying their trust.
Your opinion, and that's all that is. You have offered no evidence to support it.
You are a pretty astute observer of politics and history, LS, so I do not take your views lightly. However, I am not so sure that Bush's clout is over. I think it depends on how he uses it. I think what may be needed is a three-front attack. As you point out, immigration is key, and it appears that they are taking that bull by at least one and a half horns. If I were the loyalist that Ms. Miers seems to be, I would withdraw. It's been done before to no great harm, and allow the President to appoint someone who would get our blood back up for the fight. There are enough to chose from. What the third front might be, I don't know. We're doing just fine with the war, but the MSM is more successful than I thought it could be in making that a non-story. Is the White House PR team as lame as they appear to be? Big government? That doesn't seem to be Bush's thing. I'd like to see him deep-six that phony tax reform commission, put someone like Ron Paul in charge and get something done. I think that's a bigger fight than anything we will have seen in our lifetimes. I would love to have it. My, I do go on and on :)
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