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Stillwell: What a Palestinian State Would Look Like
ChronWatch ^ | 10/21/05 | Cinnamon Stillwell

Posted on 10/22/2005 5:37:56 AM PDT by StoneGiant

 

What a Palestinian State Would Look Like
Written by Cinnamon Stillwell
Friday, October 21, 2005



Since Israel’s disengagement from the Gaza Strip, the Palestinians have basically been left to their own devices. The world has gotten an eyeful of just what a much-anticipated Palestinian state might look like and it’s not a pretty picture.



The dust hadn’t even settled after the last of the Jews had been removed from Gaza when Palestinians resorted to form. Looting and demolishing buildings they might otherwise have been able to reside in, the Palestinians displayed the sort of destructive and dysfunctional behavior they’ve become known for. They soon graduated to burning down synagogues, a time honored tradition from the days of Nazi Germany. In a final orgy of idiocy, they tore apart the expensive greenhouses that altruistic Jews, among others, had foolishly purchased for them in the hopes that they would actually produce something. Who needs food when you can destroy a greenhouse instead?



When reported at all, such actions were described by the mainstream media merely as harmless “celebrations” or chalked up to the frustrations of a long “oppressed” people. Behavior that would be deemed unacceptable were it exhibited by any other group suddenly became fodder for touchy-feely news segments. None of these “reporters” came to the obvious conclusion that had any unarmed Jews remained in the evacuated settlements they would certainly have been slaughtered by these peace-loving Palestinian mobs.



Facing a decrease in Jewish targets, the Palestinians have begun to eat their own. Vigilante killings have gone up exponentially this year, while kidnapping, theft, and lawlessness in general is also on the rise. Hamas managed to blow up 16 Palestinians during a routine “work accident” at one of their famous kid-friendly rallies. Yet another rally to “celebrate” the pullout was disrupted by shots fired into the air and crowds stoning the stage. Honor killings, already a regular feature of Palestinian society, continue unabated. Then there was the small matter of an American and a British reporter being kidnapped by Palestinian terrorists. Nothing to see here, folks. Move along.



In a glimmer of what “Palestinian democracy” is likely to portend, the terrorist group Hamas appears to be heading for a takeover of government institutions. Should they succeed, senior Hamas leader Mahmoud Zahar has promised to install Sharia or Islamic law under which both dancing and gays won’t be allowed. I’m sure members of QUIT (Queers Undermining Israeli Terrorism) will be speaking out against this injustice any day now.



Anyone wondering what a Palestinian state might look like has only to observe the behavior cited above to get an answer. Palestinian culture, such as it is, has been mired in hatred for so long that it has little else to put forward. The death cult that has subsumed Palestinian society is in fact what it offers the world. While people all across the globe, including Jews, have survived upheaval and gone on to forge new lives and societies, the Palestinians seem to be incapable of creating anything. Without Israel providing them with water, food, and jobs (before the Intifada) and the “international community” pumping them with money, they would simply die off in the desert or be subsumed by their more powerful Arab neighbors. In fact, the latter outcome appears more likely by the day.



But it doesn’t have to be this way. Long ago, I commented on the Palestinians’ potential for achievement should they ever choose to redirect their considerable energies in more productive pursuits. Indeed, the skill at which elaborate effigies of Israeli and American symbols are constructed and later burned, displays a certain penchant for detail. If only effigy factories were a thriving industry, the Palestinians would be all set.



Another Palestinian talent is public relations, an essential component of which consists in constant whining. In fact, they have a whole film industry devoted to producing such propaganda and manipulating the gullible Western media. It’s called Pallywood. A fascinating short documentary (available online) by that name exposes the sets, actors, props, and dupes for the world to see. Not that this will stop anyone from continuing to take part in the charade. Like I said, when you’re good, you’re good. 



From its mythical beginnings to its continuing ability to attract followers, the “Palestinian cause” has taken on a life of its own. It’s the third world “resistance movement” de jour and entire classes of Westerners would have no purpose in life if not for its existence. The Palestinians can literally do or espouse anything and the world will willingly turn a blind eye. What’s more, they’re falling all over themselves to offer these paragons of virtue their own state. 



For my own part, I’m ready to give the Palestinians their own homeland right now…on Mars. Come to think of it, I wouldn’t wish that on Mars. Okay, Egypt, they’re all yours.

About the Writer: Cinnamon Stillwell is a longtime contributor to ChronWatch. A columnist for SFGate.com and Frontpagemag.com, she lives in the Bay Area. Cinnamon maintains a website at http://www.cinnamonstillwell.com. . Cinnamon receives e-mail at cinnamonstillwell@yahoo.com.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gaza; israel; palestine

1 posted on 10/22/2005 5:37:57 AM PDT by StoneGiant
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To: StoneGiant

The muderous, bloodthirsty, hate filled Palestinians (and their apologists) are what happens when "dialog" is tried with a true enemy.

Israel should have driven them into the sea decades ago.


2 posted on 10/22/2005 5:43:48 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: StoneGiant

Palestine is the wrong name for their State. It should be called Anarchy.


3 posted on 10/22/2005 5:47:03 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: StoneGiant

Go out to your backyard and look at the hardening pile your dog made last week. Thats about what it would look like.


4 posted on 10/22/2005 5:47:17 AM PDT by Bommer
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To: StoneGiant
Probably like this:


5 posted on 10/22/2005 5:49:39 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (You nonconformists are all the same.)
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To: StoneGiant
Hasn't the murder rate in the Gaza strip gone gone up since the Israelis left them to their own devices?
6 posted on 10/22/2005 5:54:42 AM PDT by CPOSharky (Why does a mirror reverse the image left to right but not up and down?)
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To: StoneGiant

Those people could screw up a crowbar so I can imagine what they would do with their own country.


7 posted on 10/22/2005 5:58:34 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: StoneGiant

Bump


8 posted on 10/22/2005 6:00:48 AM PDT by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: StoneGiant

WHAT A PALESTINIAN STATE WOULD LOOK LIKE: Dump a pigpen into a snakepit and you'll get a pretty good idea.


9 posted on 10/22/2005 6:08:56 AM PDT by RoadTest (Call Orkin Pest Control! We've got VERMIN!)
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To: TalBlack

But the Israelis, being the kind and generous people they are (and also at the behest of a succession of various US Administrations, and especially the regime of the "Former Occupant of the Oval Office, 1993-2001") have again and again turned the other cheek (who has that many cheeks? I count only four), only to have trust abused once again.

Forgiveness has its limits, if the miscreant has no intention of reforming. So a circular firing squad confined within fences (and I am sure Egypt will be building a fence of their own between the Gaza Strip and the Sinai Peninsula) may be the best solution yet. Keeps them occupied with funerals between shootouts. And reduces the population pressures. In a crude form of the application of Darwinian principles, the survivors will be both sharp of eye and quick to duck. They are the ones who can see a bullet travelling toward them, and manage to dodge it.


10 posted on 10/22/2005 6:18:47 AM PDT by alloysteel ("Close-minded, dogmatic, doctrinaire." And those are my good qualities.)
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To: sgtbono2002

> It should be called Anarchy.

They will surely self-destruct unless the UN intervenes. Oh joy.


11 posted on 10/22/2005 6:45:01 AM PDT by cloud8
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To: StoneGiant

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1507206/posts


12 posted on 10/22/2005 6:51:27 AM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: StoneGiant
Without Israel providing them with water, food, and jobs (before the Intifada) and the “international community” pumping them with money, they would simply die off in the desert or be subsumed by their more powerful Arab neighbors. In fact, the latter outcome appears more likely by the day.

So, the much yearned for Palestinian state might never come to pass because they themselves arn't capable of building one! How ironic.

13 posted on 10/22/2005 6:51:46 AM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus Reagan
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To: StoneGiant

I dont have to even read the above to know what it would look likke.

It would look like NOLA before and after the flood.

A filthy welfare state.


14 posted on 10/22/2005 6:52:10 AM PDT by funkywbr
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To: TalBlack
Israel should have driven them into the sea decades ago.

I agree. Israel needs to ignore Bush/Rice and just finish the palis off.

15 posted on 10/22/2005 7:16:50 AM PDT by Paul_Denton (The U.S. should adopt the policy of Oom Shmoom: Israeli policy where no one gives a sh*t about U.N.)
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To: StoneGiant

I agree. These people are ghetto. I don't care what happens to them.


16 posted on 10/22/2005 7:27:34 AM PDT by wizardoz
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To: StoneGiant

Now that they have their own country, they're going to need a motto for their license plates:

"Land of 10,000 Garbage Heaps"

"Terrorists Paradise"

"Live Islamic or Die"

"Heart of Nowhere"

"The Loser State"


17 posted on 10/22/2005 7:55:12 AM PDT by coladirienzi
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To: StoneGiant

Society? Yeah a society of murderers and thugs.


18 posted on 10/22/2005 7:59:42 AM PDT by marty60
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To: StoneGiant
It's not "Palestinians resorted to form", but "reverted to form". One resorts to doing something when there is nothing else left to do, but one reverts to old habits, like dog returning to his vomit, or washed pig wallowing in mire. Spell-checkers are not yet intelligent life forms.
19 posted on 10/22/2005 8:12:14 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: TalBlack

They had their chance in 1948... The Israelis offered to take them in. They were Arabs working in Israel, but they took the advice of the surrounding states and chose to become prisoners of their own kind, to remain vagabonds and wanderers at the whim of so many upstart dictators, that it is no wonder at all what they have morphed into over the years. Their anger and frustration, should suddenly turn on other Arab states one at a time until, they are crushed, or the offending states pay the price for their folly.


20 posted on 10/22/2005 8:14:17 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: coladirienzi

Very good...but where will they put these license plates?

Do donkeys need to be licensed?


21 posted on 10/22/2005 8:42:36 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: cloud8

The UN is nothing more than a batch of third world countries in control of an organisation paid for by the US by the 5 permanent vots and Japan.

I wouldnt trust Kofi Annan to shine my shoes.


22 posted on 10/22/2005 3:43:49 PM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: sgtbono2002; SJackson; yonif; Simcha7; American in Israel; Slings and Arrows; judicial meanz; ...
"Palestine is the wrong name for their State. It should be called Anarchy."—sgtbono2002










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The future of Arab controlled Gaza.
"Palestine is the wrong name for their State. It should be called Anarchy."—FReeper sgtbono2002
"Then let's wait and see what the Arabs do after they take Gaza. There's nothing like Arab reality to break up a Jewish fantasy."—FReeper Noachian
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23 posted on 10/22/2005 4:56:51 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: StoneGiant
pallywood
24 posted on 10/22/2005 5:51:32 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: ovrtaxt

Optimist..


25 posted on 10/22/2005 9:21:30 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: sheik yerbouty

lol!


26 posted on 10/23/2005 3:12:07 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (You nonconformists are all the same.)
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To: StoneGiant

bookmark


27 posted on 10/23/2005 3:24:35 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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28 posted on 10/23/2005 4:46:53 PM PDT by SJackson (I went to the intifada, and all I got was a UN T-Shirt, Hugh Hewitt)
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To: SJackson; All

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007443

A History of Violence
How did the Palestinians descend into barbarism?

BY BRET STEPHENS
Saturday, October 22, 2005 12:01 a.m. EDT

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas paid George Bush a friendly visit Thursday in the Oval Office. At the Rose Garden press conference that followed, Mr. Bush stressed Mr. Abbas's responsibility to "end terror attacks, dismantle terrorist infrastructure, maintain law and order and one day provide security for their own state." Mr. Abbas himself made no mention of the words "terrorism" or "terrorists." But he did demand the release of those he called "prisoners of freedom," now being held in Israeli jails.

The Israeli-Palestinian conflict no longer rivets world attention the way it did a few years ago. Still it rolls along, as it has for decades and as it probably will for decades to come. And the reason for this is well-captured by Mr. Abbas's use of the term "prisoners of freedom."

Who are some of these prisoners? One is Ibrahim Ighnamat, a Hamas leader arrested last week by Israel in connection to his role in organizing a March 1997 suicide bombing at the Apropos cafe in Tel Aviv, which killed three and wounded 48. Another is Jamal Tirawi of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades: Mr. Tirawi had bullied a 14-year-old boy into becoming a suicide bomber by threatening to denounce him as a "collaborator," which in Palestinian society frequently amounts to a death sentence.

And then there is 21-year-old Wafa Samir al-Bis, who was detained in June after the explosives she was carrying failed to detonate at an Israeli checkpoint on the border with Gaza. As Ms. Bis later testified, her target was an Israeli hospital where she had previously been treated--as a humanitarian gesture--for burns suffered in a kitchen accident. "I wanted to kill 20, 50 Jews," she explained at a press conference after her arraignment.

Many explanations have been given to account for the almost matchless barbarism into which Palestinian society has descended in recent years. One is the effect of Israeli occupation and all that has, in recent years, gone with it: the checkpoints, the closures, the petty harassments, the targeted assassinations of terrorist leaders. I witnessed much of this personally when I lived in Israel, and there can be no discounting the embittering effect that a weeks-long, 18-hour daily military curfew has on the ordinary Palestinians living under it.
Yet the checkpoints and curfews are not gratuitous acts of unkindness by Israel, nor are they artifacts of occupation. On the contrary, in the years when Israel was in full control of the territories there were no checkpoints or curfews, and Palestinians could move freely (and find employment) throughout the country. It was only with the start of the peace process in 1993 and the creation of autonomous Palestinian areas under the control of the late Yasser Arafat that terrorism became a commonplace fact of Israeli life. And it was only then that the checkpoints went up and the clampdowns began in earnest.

In other words, while Palestinian actions go far to explain Israeli behavior, the reverse doesn't hold. How, then, are the Ighnamats, Tirawis and Bises of Palestinian society to be explained?

Consider a statistic: In the first nine months of 2005 more Palestinians were killed by other Palestinians than by Israelis--219 to 218, according to the Palestinian Authority's Ministry of Interior, although the former figure is probably in truth much higher. In the Gaza Strip, the departure of Israeli troops and settlers has brought anarchy, not freedom. Members of Hamas routinely fight gun battles with members of Fatah, Mahmoud Abbas's ruling political party. Just as often, the killing takes place between clans, or hamullas. So-called collaborators are put to the gun by street mobs, their "guilt" sometimes nothing more than being the object of a neighbor's spite. Palestinian social outsiders are also at mortal risk: Honor killings of "loose" women are common, as is the torture and murder of homosexuals.

Atop this culture of violence are the Hamas and Fatah leaders, the hamulla chieftains, the Palestinian Authority's "generals" and "ministers." And standing atop them--theoretically, at least--is the Palestinian president. All were raised in this culture; most have had their uses for violence. For Arafat, those uses were to achieve mastery of his movement, and to harness its energies to his political purpose. Among Palestinians, his popularity owed chiefly to the fact that under his leadership all this violence achieved an astonishing measure of international respectability.

Hence Mr. Abbas's Rose Garden obeisances to the "prisoners of freedom." The Palestinian president leads a society in which dignity and violence have long been entwined, in which the absence of the latter risks the loss of the former. This is not to say that Mr. Abbas himself is a violent man. But his fate as a politician rests in the hands of violent men, and so far he has shown no appetite for confronting them.

Instead, he has sought to entice groups such as Hamas into a democratic process. As with Hezbollah in Lebanon, they have been happy to get what they can out of politics while refusing to lay down their arms. In doing so, they make a mockery of Mr. Abbas's stated commitment to "one authority, one law and one gun"--that is, to the very idea of a state, and therefore to Mr. Abbas's presidency of it.

Talk to Palestinians, and you will often hear it said, like a mantra, that Palestinian dignity requires Palestinian statehood. This is either a conceit or a lie. Should a Palestinian state ever come into existence in Gaza and the West Bank, it will be a small place, mostly poor, culturally marginal, most of it desert, rock, slums and dust. One can well understand why Arafat, a man of terrible vices but impressive vanities, spurned the offer of it--and why his people cheered wildly when he did. Their dignity has always rested upon their violence, their struggle, their "prisoners of freedom."
For Mr. Abbas, the problem is that statehood and dignity are not a package. They are a choice. And if history is any guide, the choice he must make is not one he is likely to survive.

Mr. Stephens is a member of The Wall Street Journal's editorial board.



29 posted on 10/23/2005 6:55:33 PM PDT by bitt (THE PRESIDENT: "Ask the pollsters. My job is to lead and to solve problems. ")
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To: Alia
Ping

Another writer dares to give sass to the Platform--both intended parts and less sincere parts--of our elite.
30 posted on 10/23/2005 7:13:55 PM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: StoneGiant


31 posted on 10/23/2005 7:17:25 PM PDT by Sabramerican (Islam is to Peace as Rape is to Love)
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