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1 posted on 10/23/2005 5:33:20 AM PDT by yankeedame
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Oh, great. More rusty junkers sitting around the yard.


2 posted on 10/23/2005 5:38:08 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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The metal powder would be added to what? I cant wait for my foot thick concrete engine block.


5 posted on 10/23/2005 5:44:35 AM PDT by satchmodog9 (Free choice is not what it seems)
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6 posted on 10/23/2005 5:47:50 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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My old Datsun tried this by itself and it didn't end well....

LQ


7 posted on 10/23/2005 5:50:32 AM PDT by LizardQueen (The world is not out to get you, except in the sense that the world is out to get everyone.)
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.. solid rockets to give them an extra boost, says another report in NEWS.com.au.

ahh...I just saw this in Batman Begins.

Perfect "green" solution.

8 posted on 10/23/2005 5:51:02 AM PDT by evad ( PC KILLS-)
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Sonuva Beach...


14 posted on 10/23/2005 6:00:29 AM PDT by wildehunt (I told them they'd need horses...)
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Thought you were supposed to reduce weight to improve gas mileage. Now we are adding iron to the gas tank?


16 posted on 10/23/2005 6:07:53 AM PDT by SouthTexas (Just say NO to New Orleans.)
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10 trillion barrels of oil sitting nearly free for the taking in UT, CO, WY...ooopps don't talk about that.

http://www.tomvalentine.com/html/karrick2.html

18 posted on 10/23/2005 6:24:06 AM PDT by patriot_wes (papal infallibility - a proud tradition since 1869)
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I'm assuming the waste product would be iron oxide. What do you do with it?


20 posted on 10/23/2005 6:27:26 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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Even if this worked, it would have to emit a lot of iron oxide exhaust. Even if iron oxide is not particularly poisonous, I wouldn't think rust particles settling on everything could be called pollution free.

Secondly, most of the iron that we get comes from an oxide ore. You have to expend a lot of energy to produce the "fuel". Hydrogen has the same problem. It's just a way to store energy produced somewhere else, not a primary source.


21 posted on 10/23/2005 6:28:20 AM PDT by dinasour (Pajamahadeen)
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As a fuel, iron is just like hydrogen. It is not a source of energy, there is little or no free iron available on the Earth. You have to make it from oxidized iron. And to do that, you need an energy source.


22 posted on 10/23/2005 6:28:31 AM PDT by Dan Evans
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"Dr Beach suspected the answer was to create very fine metal grains measuring millionths of a millimetre."

Very fine particles autoignite - and sometimes explode. Example - grain elevators.

We were making fine zinc particles in a pilot plant -- discovered that, when drying, the fresh zinc surface reacted with oxygen in the air and autoignited with a blue-green flame.

25 posted on 10/23/2005 6:31:29 AM PDT by gatex (NRA, JPFO and Gun Owners of America)
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Swell, a Daisy Cutter on wheels!


28 posted on 10/23/2005 7:01:21 AM PDT by Solamente
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It's more than a little convenient that the exhaust from burning gasoline, coal, and natural gas is gaseous. Burning metals such as iron, boron, and aluminum produces a solid - which weighs more than the fuel did, being combined now with oxygen. Either the car litters, or it gains weight as it approaches empty.


31 posted on 10/23/2005 7:10:00 AM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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"could run," "claimed," believes"

I stopped after a sentance-and-a-half.
32 posted on 10/23/2005 7:11:27 AM PDT by Fido969 ("And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:32).)
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"Rockets already use metal power. Aluminium is sprinkled into the space shuttle's solid rockets to give them an extra boost, says another report in NEWS.com.au."

Right!

A mixture of powdered aluminum and powdered iron is also what makes up "Thermite" grenades which burn right through an engine block or a tank's armor in a matter of seconds!

Harnessing it to do useful work is another matter, however.

37 posted on 10/23/2005 7:35:01 AM PDT by nightdriver
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Watching TV and all the talk about the Miers nomination

I was wondering if they can get a car to run on legal filings
That would be great


40 posted on 10/23/2005 8:00:10 AM PDT by grjr21
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Ceramic engines?


43 posted on 10/23/2005 8:08:31 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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Interesting. H, Al, and Fe are some of the most abundant elements on the planet.


47 posted on 10/23/2005 8:24:36 AM PDT by foobeca
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But then again, oil is the 2nd most abundant liquid on the planet, and look how expensive it is.


48 posted on 10/23/2005 8:25:52 AM PDT by foobeca
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